2023/24 Wednesday transfer thread...

[HoylandOwl]

2 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said:

I see Jamie Vardy as Jordan Rhodes Mk II. Had a very decent career but the legs have gone and the goals have dried up.

He’s not as good as he was, but he’s still scored goals in the Premier League this season. 
I’d have him in a heartbeat. He’s still not slow, and he’s instinctive. We’ve got no one like that. 

[Mark]

2 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said:

I see Jamie Vardy as Jordan Rhodes Mk II. Had a very decent career but the legs have gone and the goals have dried up.

Absolutely cannot compare the 2. One has pace, played in premier league, a higher level, won major trophies and run himself into the ground for the team and the other didn't. 

I'd have Vardy in a heartbeat. He definitely get us 15 plus goals And add a few season tickets I'd suspect

[Skamp]

Jamie Vardy's Sheffield Wednesday has a certain ring to it.

[Tylluan]

5 hours ago, Laceups said:

He’s out of contract as of tomorrow I believe.

 

5 hours ago, Southy_SWFC said:

I thought it was always July 1st.

Southy's right, kind of. The official free agent date is July 1st however clubs can sign anyone on a released list from the day after the league has officially ended. They can also bring that player into the club provided they pay the wages for that month or the player signs a non payment waiver. 

[Reesh]

Per someone on Twatter.....

 

Att Chansiri is following Jamie Vardy on Insta

[MAL]

Just now, Reesh said:

Per someone on Twatter.....

 

Att Chansiri is following Jamie Vardy on Insta

He also follows Haaland

 

COME ON

 

 

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

Who gets released then??

Gone from releasing everyone after first leg v Peterborough to does the last two games euphoria means everyone gets offered a deal ??

Head obviously needs to rule heart but can't see many departing now.

Stockdale, Hunt, Brown, FDB ?  Maybe Adenerin ?

 

[Reesh]

If Stockdale would accept being 2nd/3rd choice I'd keep him.

 

Adeniran gets another deal too

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

It is an interesting one. Moore preferred to run with a trimmed squad, aside from a couple in the likes of Shipston that haven't really been tested, there are no younger players screaming pick me. Chansiri often talks about "family" and whilst we may criticise Moore tactically at times you cannot fault his man management attributes.

So a long way of saying there may be less churn than anticipated. And perhaps the lesson learned is to ensure new players coming in share the collective spirit. No more end of playing career mercenaries please. 

[M42Owl]

I think who leaves depends on who we’ve identified and are confident of getting in. 

Near definite to leave: Stockdale, Hunt, and Brown.

Probable departures: Adeniran, Paterson. Also FDB, but if, and its a big if, he wants to stay, and is only given a sensible deal (from the club’s perspective) then I’d keep him.

Possible departures, provided we have a younger, better, upgrade lined up: Johnson, Gregory.

[Reesh]

6 minutes ago, M42Owl said:

I think who leaves depends on who we’ve identified and are confident of getting in. 

Near definite to leave: Stockdale, Hunt, and Brown.

Probable departures: Adeniran, Paterson. Also FDB, but if, and its a big if, he wants to stay, and is only given a sensible deal (from the club’s perspective) then I’d keep him.

Possible departures, provided we have a younger, better, upgrade lined up: Johnson, Gregory.

Paterson is in talks

[Tylluan]

I've a feeling DM will stay loyal to those that got us promoted and at least offer deals. 

I agree with Reesh. I'd also look to keep Adeniran but it's if he wants squad football or moves for regular first team football. 

Paul Warne gave an interesting quote when asked about recruitment. 

"I pay them to train. Playing is a bonus"

[Mark]

1 hour ago, Tylluan said:

I've a feeling DM will stay loyal to those that got us promoted and at least offer deals. 

I agree with Reesh. I'd also look to keep Adeniran but it's if he wants squad football or moves for regular first team football. 

Paul Warne gave an interesting quote when asked about recruitment. 

"I pay them to train. Playing is a bonus"

I admire loyalty. But it can be misplaced. We need to be ruthless or else we will struggle. 

[Tylluan]

15 minutes ago, Mark said:

I admire loyalty. But it can be misplaced. We need to be ruthless or else we will struggle. 

Agreed but I don't think it's in DM's mentality to say thanks but good luck finding a new club. 

It depends on who's on the shopping list and how far down the negotiation line we were with any incomings

[KrolMong]

I’m going to go with…

Stockdale, Dele, Hunt, Brown to leave.

I think we will keep Johnson, Paterson and Iorfa. We have triggered extensions in Bannan, Byers and Palmer already.

I think we will offer deals to Adeniran and Gregory - but, only as squad players. Whether they sign or not is based on whether they are happy being 3rd or 4th choice.

I agree that Moore will be a loyal as he can be, but a fair few players will have limited roles next season. Especially given the noise that Moore has made about how critical recruitment will be this season to build momentum.

Our recruitment this season will be the difference between top 10 and bottom 6. 

[Reesh]

12 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

Agreed but I don't think it's in DM's mentality to say thanks but good luck finding a new club. 

It depends on who's on the shopping list and how far down the negotiation line we were with any incomings

He's just gutted we won't be bringing in rapey Jack Diamond

[Mark]

33 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

Agreed but I don't think it's in DM's mentality to say thanks but good luck finding a new club. 

It depends on who's on the shopping list and how far down the negotiation line we were with any incomings

Absolutely yes it's definitely not in DMs mentality, but, unfortunately it needs to be. It has pros and cons. Definitely pros this season but potentially cons if his loyalty is misplaced next season. 

A few could remain as squad players but not many should be in starting eleven 

[TheExile]

I think Gregory is worth a year for when we need a goal. Moore hasn’t trusted Adeniran, Bakinson, FDB to change games at times so if we do re sign FDB and Adeniran it may be a missed opportunity to real improvement. Depends on budget. Hopefully if we have a free hit season Shipston is able to get some game time but could see him and Brennan out on loan 

[Tank_Owl2,0]

Listening to DM interview yesterday there were a few indications that some of the older out of contract players are likely to be let go. Obviously didn’t mention anyone specific although he did indicate we have options on Byers and Windass staying, which has to be a no brainer, unless Byers injury is severe.

I think Flint is unlikely to return and unfortunately unless we move quickly Gregory will find another club, eg Derby. Of the other I think time is up for Johnson as good as he’s been at times, similar story for most of the others out of contract, including Stockdale. They will be fondly remembered though I would have thought.

DM also referenced how aggressive we plan to be in the transfer market. To me, and I know what people have said about signing L1 players but I’d be looking to get the players in L1 that can clearly play (or have played) at Championship level, like Anderson and any of the PL loans that smashed L1. The positive being DM and the coaching staff are likely to have seen these players in potentially 2 games.

Then, like everyone else is probably looking to do top up with a young hungry PL striker and trade on the fact that they will be playing in front of 25k+ each week. If Bristol can get a Tammy Abraham on loan, why can’t we. We did have Berkeley.

Interesting times, the good thing is I think DM wants to get the business done early.

[Tank_Owl2,0]

4 hours ago, Reesh said:

Paterson is in talks

I’d keep Pato, he’s probably one on DMs “keep list” because he’s versatile and still under a reasonable margin under 30. 
At times he’s looked like a cart horse when he’s played but less so in the 2nd half of this season. His commitment to the cause is excellent and he likes to pop with the odd important goal here and there . Keep.

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

5 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

I’d keep Pato, he’s probably one on DMs “keep list” because he’s versatile and still under a reasonable margin under 30. 
At times he’s looked like a cart horse when he’s played but less so in the 2nd half of this season. His commitment to the cause is excellent and he likes to pop with the odd important goal here and there . Keep.

Definitely keep.

[Reesh]

5 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

Listening to DM interview yesterday there were a few indications that some of the older out of contract players are likely to be let go. Obviously didn’t mention anyone specific although he did indicate we have options on Byers and Windass staying, which has to be a no brainer, unless Byers injury is severe.

I think Flint is unlikely to return and unfortunately unless we move quickly Gregory will find another club, eg Derby. Of the other I think time is up for Johnson as good as he’s been at times, similar story for most of the others out of contract, including Stockdale. They will be fondly remembered though I would have thought.

DM also referenced how aggressive we plan to be in the transfer market. To me, and I know what people have said about signing L1 players but I’d be looking to get the players in L1 that can clearly play (or have played) at Championship level, like Anderson and any of the PL loans that smashed L1. The positive being DM and the coaching staff are likely to have seen these players in potentially 2 games.

Then, like everyone else is probably looking to do top up with a young hungry PL striker and trade on the fact that they will be playing in front of 25k+ each week. If Bristol can get a Tammy Abraham on loan, why can’t we. We did have Berkeley.

Interesting times, the good thing is I think DM wants to get the business done early.

Who is Berkeley?

[Otto_Man]

2 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Who is Berkeley?

Russ Berkeley, had him on loan from the bin dippers. Unlike you not to remember Walks 

Edited June 1, 2023 by Otto_Man

[bricat]

I would replace our goalkeeping coach with Stockdale and keep Stockdale on the cover for injured keeper list.

[Reesh]

Just now, bricat said:

I would replace our goalkeeping coach with Stockdale and keep Stockdale on the cover for injured keeper list.

Basso has done a decent job and is a big help to Moore.

[EastCraigsOwl]

15 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Basso has done a decent job and is a big help to Moore.

Indeed. Anyone who can coach double figure clean sheets into the frankly dreadful BPF, followed by record clean sheets this season must be doing something right.

[HoylandOwl]

Ex Swansea City defender’s agent contacts Wednesday…

[Andyben]

sounds perfect

[Andyben]

Stockdale deserves another year just for having the balls to do this

 

https://www.davidstockdale13.co.uk/ 

[Owling_Wolf]

1 hour ago, Andyben said:

Stockdale deserves another year just for having the balls to do this

 

https://www.davidstockdale13.co.uk/ 

"If you don't blow your own trumpet..."

[Andyben]

On 27/04/2023 at 15:18, EastCraigsOwl said:

I've just been reading an article online from the Edinburgh Evening News. The reporter is suggesting 9 out of contract in the summer central midfielders who Hearts could sign. Not sure why he couldn't find a 10th candidate but not to worry.

Anyway, number 1 on the list is...

Dennis Adeniran 😮

....fill yer boots

[EastCraigsOwl]

No thanks!

[Jim]

On 01/06/2023 at 20:27, EastCraigsOwl said:

Indeed. Anyone who can coach double figure clean sheets into the frankly dreadful BPF, followed by record clean sheets this season must be doing something right.

Speaking of BPF... https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/04/burnley-man-being-lined-up-for-sheffield-wednesday-loan-move/

 

[Reesh]

Why, he's fucking wank.

[Laceups]

BPF played 45 games and kept 15 clean sheets apparently.

conceding just the 47 goals…….. in the other 30!!!

Move on please. 

We need to target the loan market as well as the grunters did with Doyle and McAtee.

[HoylandOwl]

I’d not want him back. I’d rather Cam continue in goal. 

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, Laceups said:

BPF played 45 games and kept 15 clean sheets apparently.

conceding just the 47 goals…….. in the other 30!!!

Move on please. 

We need to target the loan market as well as the grunters did with Doyle and McAtee.

We've an opportunity to take the goodwill and confidence into next season and romp that division.

Won't take much, few key players here and there and we're laughing.

Probably harder to fuck it up....

[owl4ever1867]

3 hours ago, Jim said:

Speaking of BPF... https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/04/burnley-man-being-lined-up-for-sheffield-wednesday-loan-move/

 

No thanks, not good enough imo.

[owl4ever1867]

David Stockdale has joined York City as a player & a head of Recruitment role.

Best of luck to him.....

[TheExile]

BPF has that physique that too clubs seem to want in a keeper nowadays. Similar to Paterson at Sunderland. I just thought there was always an error in him. I’d rather we got someone in that we owned ourselves rather than revisit each season.

[Tylluan]

BPFs contract is up at the end of next season. Burnley are willing to let him go for minimal in order to get him off the books early. 

[EastCraigsOwl]

46 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

BPFs contract is up at the end of next season. Burnley are willing to let him go for minimal in order to get him off the books early. 

Let someone else suffer on the cheap.

5 hours ago, Jim said:

Speaking of BPF... https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/04/burnley-man-being-lined-up-for-sheffield-wednesday-loan-move/

 

Oh dear 🙁

[HappyOwl]

People on about BPF but Dawson now has another promotion season many clean sheets and more learning from mistakes un popular but I would stick with him and get good back up surely 

[owl4ever1867]

22 minutes ago, HappyOwl said:

People on about BPF but Dawson now has another promotion season many clean sheets and more learning from mistakes un popular but I would stick with him and get good back up surely 

Dawson isnt a Championship keeper, we want to push on, we need a better Keeper 

[owl4ever1867]

4 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

He is now.
 

What the fuck constitutes a championship keeper anyway? Think he’s been excellent on the whole, of course still areas for development but he’s nowhere near peaking yet 

All about opinions NFB, but my heart is still in my mouth whenever he's near the ball.....

 

Mind you, I've felt like that with a number of keepers over the years tbh...

[Reesh]

He's vastly improved, still has poppadom wrists at times and his palming out back into the middle of box is a worry but as Bartos says he's not peaking yet.

[Otto_Man]

Just now, Reesh said:

He's vastly improved, still has poppadom wrists at times and his palming out back into the middle of box is a worry but as Bartos says he's not peaking yet.

😲👍

[Tylluan]

BPF isn't a championship keeper which is why he ended up with us in L1. He wasn't when he was with Leeds either. The reason he's been linked with us is because we've released Stockdale and his agent is hawking him round due to his contract situation. 

@owl4ever1867 out of interest who would you bring in if you had a choice?

Edited June 4, 2023 by Tylluan

[Reesh]

Just now, Neville Facking Bartos said:

Better than Joe yet? 😁

Nope

 

[owl4ever1867]

3 hours ago, Tylluan said:

BPF isn't a championship keeper which is why he ended up with us in L1. He wasn't when he was with Leeds either. The reason he's been linked with us is because we've released Stockdale and his agent is hawking him round due to his contract situation. 

@owl4ever1867 out of interest who would you bring in if you had a choice?

Karl Darlow might be worth a punt.