Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-boss-makes-final-decision-on-free-agents-for-championship-survival-run-4555343?fbclid=IwAR1F2WrGiwwdElc1xxLj3Mrdn3o48gD7qX2INHqXjhiR_Rv3deFq4AprbPE Good to hear this bit too ..... "Of course I’m looking for players for the new season, " Also the OS site training pics for the Ipswich game shows Hendrick involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Does anyone know what the rules are for the work permit waivers? What are the work permit rules once players are already here? Will the players on them last season now qualify for work permits this year, allowing us another 4 or will they still be on the waivers. Any player playing 40% of minutes for us this season auto qualifies for a permit with 15 points, bit what happens to the likes of Delgado, who will lose his international autopsy due to injury or Momo who won't get the 40%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 20 hours ago, Tewksbury said: Does anyone know what the rules are for the work permit waivers? What are the work permit rules once players are already here? Will the players on them last season now qualify for work permits this year, allowing us another 4 or will they still be on the waivers. Any player playing 40% of minutes for us this season auto qualifies for a permit with 15 points, bit what happens to the likes of Delgado, who will lose his international autopsy due to injury or Momo who won't get the 40%? "autopsy"? Kinnell! No-one said he was that bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I thought the WP lasted for the term of the contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Don't know. It's more about whether the ones brought in on a waiver can be upgraded to a full work permit so we can get another 4 on waivers. They'd need 1656 minutes for the 40% required for 15 points to get a work permit, but is it different if you're already here? As it stands Gassama and Momo wouldn't qualify, so would they need to stay on waiver, or is there something in place for players already here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Gassama is our player so he'd be fine. Mo is a loan so likely to be sent back anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 12 minutes ago, Andyben said: Gassama is our player so he'd be fine. Mo is a loan so likely to be sent back anyway Agree re Mo. Why Gass fine, tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Agree re Mo. Why Gass fine, tho? Why wouldn't he be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Saw this on social media. Tbf it does have a big caveat attached to it. Id be surprised if some of the individual numbers are correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 No way Coventry's wage bill is lower than Rotherham's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 That's a right load of bollocks. Almost a shit as a @Broncopost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Saw this on social media. Tbf it does have a big caveat attached to it. Id be surprised if some of the individual numbers are correct Ffs So Plymouths entire squad is on an avg of £2k per week Edited March 18 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: No way Coventry's wage bill is lower than Rotherham's Bet Ellis Simms is on £25 - £30k a week so that accounts for a 1/4 of the budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Wages are according to Capology. wtf is capology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, HoylandOwl said: wtf is capology Clearly missing an ‘r’ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 10 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Wages are according to Capology. wtf is capology Joe Crann's Degree.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 https://www.capology.com/club/sheffield-wednesday/salaries/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Jeff Hendricks £35k a week 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Can’t see Poveda being on that and you’d assume we will be paying quite a slice of his actual wages. I doubt we are that high up the wages table but I also think we are higher up than the 1867 group would let anyone think DC has agreed to. Overall it seems a lot of poor guesswork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Capology doesn’t cross reference published accounts. So it’s all projected/guesswork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 11 hours ago, Andyben said: https://www.capology.com/club/sheffield-wednesday/salaries/ This doesn't scan back to your previous comments that we have the 4th lowest wage bill, which IIRC are a well placed source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewksbury Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 What percentage of total salaries goes on player wages? So if we spent £14 million last year on total wages and salaries, up £4 million from the year before, how much of that was on first team playing staff? Surely it's more than 2/3 of it, and we must be paying more this season as we kept all of our high earners, so it will be higher than the Capology thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 35 minutes ago, mkowl said: This doesn't scan back to your previous comments that we have the 4th lowest wage bill, which IIRC are a well placed source Look at Brum. Last accts had wages of £27m. Do you think they've halved that in a season? They have Blackburn at £9m for this season...they have published salaries of £24.4m in last accounts. Do you want me to go through them all for you? Edited March 19 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 minutes ago, Andyben said: Look at Brum. Last accts had wages of £27m. Do you think they've halved that in a season? They have Blackburn at £9m for this season...they have published salaries of £24.4m in last accounts. Do you want me to go through them all for you? No I believe your original source more than these make believe numbers. Sorry my wording was ambiguous, I wasn't having a dig at past comments. The fact they don't cross reference to accounts makes their methodology worthless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 19 hours ago, TheExile said: Capology doesn’t cross reference published accounts. So it’s all projected/guesswork So, the wages on football manager are more accurate then as at least they do research 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Sports Interactive and EA put more analysis into their games than some clubs do. Their respective budgets are enormous and they don't just run algorithms they actually send 'scouts' out, especially in South America. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 The Swiss Ramble site usually does a good summary for most clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 We've taken a look at 18 year old winger Rocco Vata at Celtic. Out of contract in the summer and not signing an extension as the expectation is Milan will come calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Tylluan said: We've taken a look at 18 year old winger Rocco Vata at Celtic. Out of contract in the summer and not signing an extension as the expectation is Milan will come calling Scooby Doo is less confused than that lad.... Born in Scotland Of Albanian descent Plays for Ireland!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I remember Rudi Vata from his Celtic days. Knew Rocco was dodging soap through yonder but can't say I've seen him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Watford u21s forward James Collins turned out for our 21s against QPR. He's 19 and highly rated by Watford so the fact that he's decided to trial for us shows well for our current academy set up. He plays in the Michael Smith role but his hold up play is better. Big and powerful lad, not easy to knock off the ball. Don't expect tons of pace from him but he's quite effective at ghosting in and around the penalty area. Been on Watford's bench once this season and been loaned out to lower leagues a couple of times as well. https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/24207698.sheffield-wednesday-take-young-watford-striker-trial/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 12 minutes ago, Tylluan said: Watford u21s forward James Collins turned out for our 21s against QPR. He's 19 and highly rated by Watford so the fact that he's decided to trial for us shows well for our current academy set up. He plays in the Michael Smith role but his hold up play is better. Big and powerful lad, not easy to knock off the ball. Don't expect tons of pace from him but he's quite effective at ghosting in and around the penalty area. Been on Watford's bench once this season and been loaned out to lower leagues a couple of times as well. https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/24207698.sheffield-wednesday-take-young-watford-striker-trial/ How come we've got him up here then Ty, they have an option for another I read so what is behind his thinking to come on trial at ours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 It's because he feels sorry for us now DC can't spend £8m on a striker. Think he saw the Nevs protesting and thought "they're the ones for me..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Reesh said: How come we've got him up here then Ty, they have an option for another I read so what is behind his thinking to come on trial at ours? Done some asking and they only have an option to ask him to sign, like a first refusal, so he can do the free agent trials to see if he'd be better elsewhere. The Watford rumour mill is that he wasn't happy there. Trained with the first team at the beginning of August, got on the bench against Stoke then was binned back to the 21s. Sent out loan to non league in November then they sent him out again in February. The rumour on that one is he turned up for training and was just told to head off to Haringey. He had no say. Him, and his family, have seen the progression route that has happened this season with our academy and see us as an opportunity. I'm hearing he's not afraid to graft and learn and he has the right aptitude. It's just that his whole family felt he was never told what was happening at Watford. He only joined Watford in January 23, before then he was non league, so the compensation would be minimal if anything at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, Tylluan said: Done some asking and they only have an option to ask him to sign, like a first refusal, so he can do the free agent trials to see if he'd be better elsewhere. The Watford rumour mill is that he wasn't happy there. Trained with the first team at the beginning of August, got on the bench against Stoke then was binned back to the 21s. Sent out loan to non league in November then they sent him out again in February. The rumour on that one is he turned up for training and was just told to head off to Haringey. He had no say. Him, and his family, have seen the progression route that has happened this season with our academy and see us as an opportunity. I'm hearing he's not afraid to graft and learn and he has the right aptitude. It's just that his whole family felt he was never told what was happening at Watford. He only joined Watford in January 23, before then he was non league, so the compensation would be minimal if anything at all. Cheers. Sounds like he could be worth a punt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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