Andyben Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 There's a 90's legend that consistently did was Schulz was accused of and was prosecuted for a sexual offence. Why does he get a free pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 He only gets one from me as I've no idea who you're talking about 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 he came back and played for us on loan after being prosecuted for sexual assualt and losing his appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 53 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: He only gets one from me as I've no idea who you're talking about 😇 Captained England and scored a World Cup winning hat trick in the 1994 World Cup under Graham Taylor. Since then has had award winning managerial stints at several clubs, become a property billionaire and now speaks philanthropicly on matters of racism and unjust manager sackings 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 That would have been my guess Ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 of our players in the 1980's both had domestic violence publicity . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I don’t think getting it wrong then means we should keep getting it wrong now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, LiamOwl said: I don’t think getting it wrong then means we should keep getting it wrong now. What we getting were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Signing players with similar histories, and then fans giving them a “free pass”. Because the fan base has largely (entirely?) kept quiet on those issues before I don’t think that should stop people from making their feelings known on it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 To use Mk's conjecture point. We've no idea if he's been offered a contract, let alone signed one. It's all online conjecture. We've no idea if he'll be found guilty. Only the prosecution side is being reported on because the defence hasn't had their time to present yet. But media sites are painting a damning, yet one sided, portrait of the events that people are already making their minds up about him on. I'll wait til the judge gives his verdict before deciding if it's right we should sign him or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: I'll wait til the judge gives his verdict before deciding if it's right we should sign him or not. He has. No prosecution and No criminal record pending receipt of the €150k charitable donations. Its in Bilde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: To use Mk's conjecture point. We've no idea if he's been offered a contract, let alone signed one. It's all online conjecture. We've no idea if he'll be found guilty. Only the prosecution side is being reported on because the defence hasn't had their time to present yet. But media sites are painting a damning, yet one sided, portrait of the events that people are already making their minds up about him on. I'll wait til the judge gives his verdict before deciding if it's right we should sign him or not. Very old fashioned approach, clearly these days you should take one element of information, ignore the rest, make a snap judgement and tell the world how upset / angry / fuming / its all Chansiri's fault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 53 minutes ago, Andyben said: He has. No prosecution and No criminal record pending receipt of the €150k charitable donations. Its in Bilde Is that common in Germany - almost a form of plea bargaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68426495 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 28/02/2024 at 20:32, mkowl said: There will be plenty of faux outrage if we sign him. Why would it be faux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Why would it be faux? Because that is the modern way, you are either outraged or you have to be seen to be outraged to tick the relevant virtue signalling box Then you point out the lack of outrage for something similar that does not align with their "politics" You can see people here, being concerned about domestic abuse by men, next minute happily supporting that a male sex offender who now identifies as Brenda should be allowed in a women's prison For the avoidance of doubt men controlling or coercing women either via physical or emotional means is one of my hates in life. I just think sometimes Wednesday don't need any negative press - we generate enough shit as it is. Whether this chap is on the radar or not, you just hope there is a degree of common sense within the football and ownership side of the Club to give this a pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 25 minutes ago, mkowl said: Because that is the modern way, you are either outraged or you have to be seen to be outraged to tick the relevant virtue signalling box Then you point out the lack of outrage for something similar that does not align with their "politics" You can see people here, being concerned about domestic abuse by men, next minute happily supporting that a male sex offender who now identifies as Brenda should be allowed in a women's prison For the avoidance of doubt men controlling or coercing women either via physical or emotional means is one of my hates in life. I just think sometimes Wednesday don't need any negative press - we generate enough shit as it is. Whether this chap is on the radar or not, you just hope there is a degree of common sense within the football and ownership side of the Club to give this a pass Maybe so in general terms but there's loads of ordinary fans saying we shouldn't touch this bloke with a bargepole 'cos it would be an own goal. We've got enough shit going on around the club - mainly jumped up fans 'group' followed by morons attacking sometimes difficult owner but also problems with specific fans behaviour currently / recently attracting charges / bad publicity - to not be asking for more of it when we don't need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 12 hours ago, mkowl said: For the avoidance of doubt men controlling or coercing women either via physical or emotional means is one of my hates in life. I just think sometimes Wednesday don't need any negative press - we generate enough shit as it is. Whether this chap is on the radar or not, you just hope there is a degree of common sense within the football and ownership side of the Club to give this a pass This IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Ex Burnley young un who's been on trial signs Owls deal... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 14 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Maybe so in general terms but there's loads of ordinary fans saying we shouldn't touch this bloke with a bargepole 'cos it would be an own goal. We've got enough shit going on around the club - mainly jumped up fans 'group' followed by morons attacking sometimes difficult owner but also problems with specific fans behaviour currently / recently attracting charges / bad publicity - to not be asking for more of it when we don't need to. Yeah fair point. Another way to look at it is, let’s face it we’re not anybody’s second favourite team this season, so what’s a little bit more bad publicity if the fella helps us stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 9 hours ago, owl71 said: Yeah fair point. Another way to look at it is, let’s face it we’re not anybody’s second favourite team this season, so what’s a little bit more bad publicity if the fella helps us stay up. Don't understand the faux outrage from some of our fans, they didn't seem to have a problem when we signed Gary Madine or Reda Johnson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Petrie Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 28 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: Don't understand the faux outrage from some of our fans, they didn't seem to have a problem when we signed Gary Madine or Reda Johnson... Once again, the club seems to have put itself in the middle of a minefield. Unless we’ve suddenly upped our PR game overnight, feels like it’ll be viewed a loss whichever way we go now. But if we’re playing top trumps with players with dubious backgrounds, can I have Nile Ranger and Jamie Vardy (I know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Skamp said: That didn't have to be an open letter. The group must already have inroads and communication routes into the club through the volunteering work and "women at Wednesday" campaign. They could have asked for dialogue with the club, or even DR himself in order to gain an understanding and voiced concerns that way. Then gone 'public' if the club had brushed them off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Skamp said: That didn't have to be an open letter. The group must already have inroads and communication routes into the club through the volunteering work and "women at Wednesday" campaign. They could have asked for dialogue with the club, or even DR himself in order to gain an understanding and voiced concerns that way. Then gone 'public' if the club had brushed them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: That didn't have to be an open letter. The group must already have inroads and communication routes into the club through the volunteering work and "women at Wednesday" campaign. They could have asked for dialogue with the club, or even DR himself in order to gain an understanding and voiced concerns that way. Then gone 'public' if the club had brushed them off. Unlike wimmin not to think rationally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, Tylluan said: That didn't have to be an open letter. The group must already have inroads and communication routes into the club through the volunteering work and "women at Wednesday" campaign. They could have asked for dialogue with the club, or even DR himself in order to gain an understanding and voiced concerns that way. Then gone 'public' if the club had brushed them off. Good points. Maybe not quite shot themselves in the foot but a bad case of stubbing their toes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Possibly thought that they didn't have time to hang around it they wanted to influence the club decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Wonder if the Chelsea Mens Supporters Groups will write to their club asking for her to be sacked? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/03/04/sam-kerr-chelsea-trial-racially-harassment-police-officer/?WT.mc_id=e_DM288281&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_PrS_New&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_PrS_New20240305&utm_campaign=DM288281 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 03/03/2024 at 00:59, Owling_Wolf said: Possibly thought that they didn't have time to hang around it they wanted to influence the club decision. Nobody has ever influenced the club with an open letter, just ask the Trust, and he's been here at least a month with the court case hanging over him. They could have started the engagement the moment he was spotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Fuck em. Dopey split arses 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 14 minutes ago, Andyben said: Fuck em. Dopey split arses Charming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Schulz not returning now according to cap man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 8 minutes ago, Canterburyowl said: Schulz not returning now according to cap man If correct a wise decision, no need to shoot ourselves in the foot with another bullet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 For those who haven’t seen it. https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-boss-confirms-nico-schulz-decision-after-defenders-training-spell-4544226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Purely a footballing decision according to that story but if he's still without a club in September (not that I think he will be) and we're struggling for cover then I'd expect him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68492930 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) Could someone explain what it is about the black lesbian being charged for a despicable criminal offence that makes her situation different to the straight white man please? Maybe to use Kerr's own words I'm a "...stupid white bastard" so couldn't understand Edited March 6 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Why is her case not being heard until 2025? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 hours ago, Andyben said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68492930 Club's full backing? WTF??? I know there's innocent until proven guilty but it's on body-cam isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Don't know if posted elsewhere but reported in the Star that Röhl is considering naming Gregory, Delgado and Hendrick in the 25 man squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Don't know if posted elsewhere but reported in the Star that Röhl is considering naming Gregory, Delgado and Hendrick in the 25 man squad. EFL 44.3. all squads must be finalised by 5pm of the 4th Thursday in March. You can't add to your squad after this, even if you have the spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So, DR has till the 28th to decide if they're back in then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: So, DR has till the 28th to decide if they're back in then? Yes, kinda like the old transfer deadline days of yesteryear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Hasn't Delgado been ruled out for the season anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, star said: Hasn't Delgado been ruled out for the season anyway Don't think so but there has been a paucity of updates re. his condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 22 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: So, DR has till the 28th to decide if they're back in then? Happy Birthday Tel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 19 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: So, DR has till the 28th to decide if they're back in then? DR quoted in Star as saying the international break was always in his mind as the time to make decisions re. finalising the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 hours ago, star said: Hasn't Delgado been ruled out for the season anyway Not that I saw, it was for the majority of the remainder of the season IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 To add a bit of clarity around the academy players bit. If they've already sat on an EFL game bench then they'll already be registered with the league to play. What we can't do after the deadline is field anyone who hasn't. So we couldn't play the new lad Otegbayo unless we put him in a match day squad before the 28th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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