Andyben Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 36 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: 1) what have I accused him of? 2) A sad state of affairs when fans would welcome legal action against fellow supporters. #chansiriout 1. Calling him a fraud in respect of how he runs the club and saying you wouldn't be surprised if he had commuted actual fraud. 2. Who said that? Just think it's worth a read and take care posting stuff. Don't want this site dragged into anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 27 minutes ago, Reesh said: Depends who the fans are in question I'd love to see Hargreaves and his fanboys bankrupted That would be like the second leg of the play offs all over again 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 48 minutes ago, Andyben said: 1. Calling him a fraud in respect of how he runs the club and saying you wouldn't be surprised if he had commuted actual fraud. 2. Who said that? Just think it's worth a read and take care posting stuff. Don't want this site dragged into anything. I think it’s you that’s needs to read through it, no case m’lawd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraddersTim Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 20 hours ago, Southy_SWFC said: Not sure you can claim they've got bollocks when they won't even say who they are. This 100%. When this is over and other folk have got into trouble with the club or police for doing what they've incited them to do, then maybe getting carried away and doing worse, this lot will slink back to their seats knowing that they're completely safe and anonymous. Cowards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I'm checking my home contents insurance policy to see if it covers a TV that's been broken by chucked tennis balls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 58 minutes ago, BraddersTim said: This 100%. When this is over and other folk have got into trouble with the club or police for doing what they've incited them to do, then maybe getting carried away and doing worse, this lot will slink back to their seats knowing that they're completely safe and anonymous. Cowards. Wouldnt worry about that mate, from what I've read they sound about 11 year old, hardly fucking Baader - Meinhof are they. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 More like Douglas Bader. Not a leg to stand on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I never quite know whether or not Nev is on the windup. It's definitely a skill. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 20 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: I never quite know whether or not Nev is on the windup. It's definitely a skill. Love it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Lets be honest DC is not the devil incarnate Equally if you consider his time running the Club has been successful and moved us forward, then I think you are as deluded as the protesters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 MK, would it be fair to say though that without him there may not be a Club for us to support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 9 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: MK, would it be fair to say though that without him there may not be a Club for us to support? There would not be the current entity Sheffield Wednesday Football Club Limited to support no. I would be 99.9% certain that there would be The Wednesday FC for us to shift our allegiance too. Like Bury did and a few others over the years. Club to me is a hell of a lot more than the person who owns the shares that owns the golden share with the EFL. And Chansiri will never own the spirit of the Club, the thing that is inside us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 21 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: There would not be the current entity Sheffield Wednesday Football Club Limited to support no. I would be 99.9% certain that there would be The Wednesday FC for us to shift our allegiance too. Like Bury did and a few others over the years. Club to me is a hell of a lot more than the person who owns the shares that owns the golden share with the EFL. And Chansiri will never own the spirit of the Club, the thing that is inside us My thoughts entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 5 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: I think it’s you that’s needs to read through it, no case m’lawd This is the one thing you should probably listen to me wholeheartedly on, m'lud. Edited September 19 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I would be 99.9% certain that there would be The Wednesday FC for us to shift our allegiance too. Like Bury did and a few others over the years. Does anyone know if there's a current owner of 'The Wednesday FC" name? Would it still be the club? And is the phoenixed Wednesday CC still going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Does that strange looking bloke in a frock still do the Wenzdi cricket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: There would not be the current entity Sheffield Wednesday Football Club Limited to support no. I would be 99.9% certain that there would be The Wednesday FC for us to shift our allegiance too. Like Bury did and a few others over the years. Club to me is a hell of a lot more than the person who owns the shares that owns the golden share with the EFL. And Chansiri will never own the spirit of the Club, the thing that is inside us Not sure personally. 156 years of tradition down the pan would likely kill the 'spirit' for many. Hope it never comes to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, Andyben said: This is the one thing you should probably listen to me wholeheartedly on, m'lud. I’m good, there’s no issue with calling someone a fraud. I think you’ll agree with your recent references to Southgate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 See, there actually is a big difference. Southgate pretending to be a football manager isn't a crime, so there's no legal defamation when I call him a fraud. This isn't the same as the accusations that DC is a fraud or has potentially committed fraudulent acts as owner of swfc, as alluded to above, either of which are crimes and to accuse someone of committing them is defamatory (either slander or possibly libel) which in itself leaves you open to criminal or civil proceedings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 45 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Not sure personally. 156 years of tradition down the pan would likely kill the 'spirit' for many. Hope it never comes to that. But you don't lose that history. Ok DC technically owns it, but it's an intangible asset really. A new entity effectively inherits it. I get that for some that it would be the end of the road, I accept it would never be the same, but look at Bury as your recent example of a club re-born Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 10 minutes ago, Andyben said: See, there actually is a big difference. Southgate pretending to be a football manager isn't a crime, so there's no legal defamation when I call him a fraud. This isn't the same as the accusations that DC is a fraud or has potentially committed fraudulent acts as owner of swfc, as alluded to above, either of which are crimes and to accuse someone of committing them is defamatory (either slander or possibly libel) which in itself leaves you open to criminal or civil proceedings. Either you’ve misunderstood or you’re being deliberately obtuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Yes. Its me that's misunderstood.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 5 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Lets be honest DC is not the devil incarnate Equally if you consider his time running the Club has been successful and moved us forward, then I think you are as deluded as the protesters He's moved us significantly forward from where we would be right now if he hadn't bought the club 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 8 minutes ago, JBO said: He's moved us significantly forward from where we would be right now if he hadn't bought the club That is an impossible hypothesis to prove. Let's say Red Bull had acquired us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 34 minutes ago, JBO said: He's moved us significantly forward from where we would be right now if he hadn't bought the club Has he? How do you get to that conclusion then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Has he? How do you get to that conclusion then? Certainly not on league position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Doubt we'd exist tbh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, JBO said: Doubt we'd exist tbh No idea, he might have sold us on, he might have pulled funding, covid could have killed football, Sky could have dropped out of football, best mention Brexit The answer is more given the money spent have we actually progressed in the pyramid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 For the avoidance of doubt I'm happy for Chansiri to sell up to whoever has the funds to run the club in the manner that matches the fans' expectations 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 17/09/2023 at 20:20, JBO said: 15th minute? Bet it happens in the 16th minute as people are thick and always get the minute wrong for these sort of things Ahem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I don't mind people protesting, it's their right to. My only objection to tonight was that it was done in the middle of the game, when we were getting some momentum at that point. It's all well and good people saying you can not support the chairman but support the team. Well how is it supporting the team if you're stopping them playing? The Sky cameras were there, and while it obviously got some airtime and was discussed on the programme so I'm told, the group got what they wanted I would assume. Exposure. But could they not have done it pre game? As the players were coming out? The cameras were on then, there's no danger of interrupting a pen, or whatever is happening in the match. I think from the initial boos the actions got, from much of the crowd spoke more about the timing of it, than the act itself. I think his position is becoming more untenable by the game now, no matter what happens, it felt tonight a little like the tide is turning. Although, it has to be said the chants aimed at DC were louder on Saturday than they were tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southy_SWFC Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Perhaps the culprits aren't allowed out on a school night or their carers get overtime after 5 o'clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 10 hours ago, JBO said: For the avoidance of doubt I'm happy for Chansiri to sell up to whoever has the funds to run the club in the manner that matches the fans' expectations For the avoidance of doubt I would be happy for Chansiri to continue owning the Club if I could see a semblance of a long term plan rather than the awful scattergun approach we see. Plus if he totally re-thought ticket pricing. It was actually cheaper to go to the Etihad, including the train fare over there, to watch Champions League football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: For the avoidance of doubt I would be happy for Chansiri to continue owning the Club if I could see a semblance of a long term plan rather than the awful scattergun approach we see. Plus if he totally re-thought ticket pricing. It was actually cheaper to go to the Etihad, including the train fare over there, to watch Champions League football Yeah that is a fair comparison, billionaire owned dripping in PL cash Man City Edited September 20 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 There'll be a few letters dropping in doorsteps Friday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 32 minutes ago, Andyben said: There'll be a few letters dropping in doorsteps Friday.... Not round here the fuckers never turn up after Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 45 minutes ago, Reesh said: Yeah that is a fair comparison, billionaire owned dripping in PL Man City I understand that - but even the most ardent supporters of Chansiri must question some of the ticket prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) Are there any ardent DC supporters left other than AB? Was talking to a bloke in front who was booing the protest last night, he wants him out too but he didn't agree with stopping play. This is why i didn't get involved in the end, applauded those willing to highlight the issue to a wider audience mind and joined in with the chants Edited September 20 by Neville Facking Bartos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Is anyone really an ardent supporter of any club custodian? Common myth Popular opinion seems to be that Milan was one of the best custodians the club has ever had, but every single fan was happy to drop him like a stone when Mammadov rocked up. Those of us that don't want DC forced out aren't necessarily ardent supporters, merely realists who see no viable alternative on the horizon and have had our fill of Geoff Sheard and every other chancer who fancies owning a football club. Owners can be funny, look at Udders, not sure what the new owners expect, but Colin was probably doing as well as anyone could with the players available, was popular with the fans and they've sacked him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I think the feeling round here on Colin was that he was only ever kept on this summer to give them time to find the right long-term manager (if there is such a thing) whilst all the takeover stuff was going on. Now that they have presumably identified their long-term manager they’ve asked him to step aside and he’s agreed. I suppose in that way Milan was similar to Colin, we knew he wasn’t here for the long haul. He’d just picked us up in a shit situation, straightened us out and was waiting to move us on to the person he thought could take us to that next level. Part of his success I think was managing expectation. DC seems to take the opposite approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Warnock's got as he responded to criticism about the start by highlighting he wasn't happy with players being sold and not replaced, that happened a couple of weeks ago and i'd guess it was that which accelerated his departure. @Otto_Man us fans never know who is potentially on the horizon. The question should be are you happy with the running of the club, if the answer is no then you should apply pressure on him in whatever way you feel is right, if that's not tennis ball then fine but what isn't helpful is for people to try and shout those down that clearly care enough to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 43 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Are there any ardent DC supporters left other than AB? Was talking to a bloke in front who was booing the protest last night, he wants him out too but he didn't agree with stopping play. This is why i didn't get involved in the end, applauded those willing to highlight the issue to a wider audience mind and joined in with the chants You hero, in the future there will be books written about your contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 47 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I understand that - but even the most ardent supporters of Chansiri must question some of the ticket prices I question the prices, I find them abhorrent but I find the cost of most things abhorrent at the minute. City struggle to fill the Etihad with their own fans for the CL even with the discount prices, my niece was 17 last month and is a a City "fan" I'm shelling out for the 3rd group game for her birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, Reesh said: I question the prices, I find them abhorrent but I find the cost of most things abhorrent at the minute. City struggle to fill the Etihad with their own fans for the CL even with the discount prices, my niece was 17 last month and is a a City "fan" I'm shelling out for the 3rd group game for her birthday Any good?😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 13 minutes ago, Reesh said: You hero, in the future there will be books written about your contribution. What did yo do? Comment/laugh at the TV pictures no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Winco said: Any good?😛 Pick your spot on the Strines, it'll be nice for you family to have a marker to visit. Edited September 20 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 10 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: What did yo do? Comment/laugh at the TV pictures no doubt Will you be following in your dads footsteps and presenting the next owner with a bottle of Hendos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 11 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: What did yo do? Comment/laugh at the TV pictures no doubt We can't all be Super Nev, DJ, rebel and ardent football supporter supreme, stop thinking you're summat special you **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 36 minutes ago, Reesh said: You hero, in the future there will be books written about your contribution. over to you @Bellsview 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 11 minutes ago, Reesh said: Will you be following in your dads footsteps and presenting the next owner with a bottle of Hendos? Probably not mate, only bothered about forcing them out not welcoming them in. 10 minutes ago, Reesh said: We can't all be Super Nev, DJ, rebel and ardent football supporter supreme, stop thinking you're summat special you **** Ha, always the way with ***** like you. Looking at others and judging because they’re unhappy with their own little sad existence 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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