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That’s not bad to be fair

Remember when it was Chansiri fault for Leeds charging us £47 or whatever and the group used as another reason to beat him with. Well Sunderland charged Leeds fans £30 this season and they got rewarded with a £47 charge also … Still Leeds did nothing wrong according to lots it was all DC fault.

It’s up there with reading as one the crapist away days … yep I’ll be there early doors - never learn me!

1) currently Stalk is pushing the narrative that fan behaviour is a result of Chansiri game day management and not the negativity stirred up by recent protests 2) Fan forum of 5 years? DC sat with a host of fans post the sacking of DM this summer? Spent 4 hours talking it was followed up by some of his most ferment critics meeting him 2 week later.

Just interested - you see when he said that I felt like we had the backing of a owner who wanted the best for the club. He’s had his mini breakdowns and some things he done have not sat right with me - but I anchor my perception that nobody goes out of their way to give their siblings something worse than when they took over. DC is clearly (MK and I will happily debate that statement over the next half decade no doubt) working in the long term after his short term success attempt failed.

When D.C. took us over he told us all he wanted to give the club to his son. Can I ask how did that make you feel?

So let me get this right .. DC the most accessible owner this club had probably ever. its not good enough because other clubs are “more genuine” about their sessions. You see the problem here is there are plenty clubs which have no dialogue - plenty of owners who do not care and yes plenty who do and plenty who need to still get it right! It’s just not a significant issue to warrant want an owner who continues to invest out!

Lee wasn’t the owner he was the chairman. There been online panels with DC recently and he met people who openly disliked him within the last year. Any other owner offer to meet any fan?

Cash flow impacts our owner - some of it out of his control. families allowances? Maybe construction business suffer due to Chinese recession and general world wide issue - very likely! DC wealthy but is he most wealthy owner in the world clearly not!

It’s called a sunk cost! Club can have my money it’s already gets a significant proportion of my life! I am really am not chasing cash if my club goes bust indeed I’ll be putting MORE money into the bloody club!

Wow bit of catch up that was!! So the sponsorship has been adequately debunked already. The player argument - let me take you back to the Westwood and Hutchinson situation of frozen in and out by differing managers? That alone should end all speculation that Chansiri controls the situation above and beyond the manager involved! I mean seriously just apply common sense when jumping on chairman for freezing out players! Not least Johnson!!! Munoz didn’t like Rohl brought back - common denominator same bloody chairman!!!! When you argument is he appointed a poor manager he should go !!!! I want to scream!! Pulis I hated but at the time I thought great appointment! It’s football nobody gets it right all the time! Communication with the fans is broken - compared to?? Jake you 36 .. tell me a time you could get a meeting with the owner by asking? An audience of over 4 hours? The club is doing more behind scenes than ever! as he got things wrong!! YES! Point deduction so frustrating but even then it was clear cut cock up was it - it was a sodding stupid admin error!

If DC sold and it went badly these guys would blame D.C.! If D.C. sold and it went well these guys would take the credit and ignore D.C.

Just an update Ricky fought to the very end when he was taking off life support. He’s only just passed away tonight it early as we all thought. Thats from his family.

Yep he was there was in pub with him.

It’s knocked me this news - known the lad for 30 plus years. Knew he’d had a an accident at weekend and knew it weren’t good but being told today of the news and am upset. He was no angel, he was a bloody nuisance but he was our nuisance. I’ve been speaking to mates all evening about him and we’re all rocked. I have 100’s of memories good bad and some just bloody hilarious! He’d of been in his element tomorrow night out on the streets. Many ways he lived for Wednesday. Lots are convinced he coined the WAWAW saying Not often you’d say this about Ricky but I were fortunate to bump into him Saturday ! Just a shame I’ll never see him again - he was a good if annoying mate to more than just me! RIP 🇯🇲🦉

And the latest post by the 1867 proves their focus is on themselves and not the club! They are gutted the accounts are not worse! Refuse to recognised DC is turning the club around from ground up - they are just so entitled and expect a profitable club whilst paying the cheapest match tickets in football! Also as we are a deadline club for accounts can’t help but think DC got these out a day b4 the next protest on purpose!

Yep that was my point, poorly made. Basically it was a smaller away following then most games and our extra home support witnessed us just above the average - I estimated 3k based on 22k season ticket holder - 1k Bristol and the difference being those taking advantage of the deduction. When Watford pitched up with about 500 attendance was something like 22,600 and there were plenty missing from our season ticket base but they count season ticket regardless now.

Any chance of us getting 4K at Sunderland you reckon?

But he didn’t back Danny!! We didn’t get a striker in the January window and we left it too late to get one in! He’s never backed Rohl that’s why he’ll walk .. oh that and his full former Red bull management team which of course was the invisible investors from red bull doing! And ticket prices are too much - but a drop yesterday witnessed only an extra 3k turn up with us slightly above the season average

Great result for us! Pol is really shinning now and the recent news focus he’s had explains why time is required when picking up foreign players. One thing to add I thought it was obvious Bannan had a bit of reservation about his play today - he was clearly playing with the knowledge one more yellow knocked him out of the next game! We need Bazza for the next 2 games without a shadow of doubt. I’ve rightly or wrongly baked in a loss against Leeds in my head and am praying for maximum points in the next 2!

I’d tend to agree that the facts of D.C. ownership have been so misconstrued in recent times and such a frenzy has been reached it’s hard to apply rational thought over what has happened! I agree with the Brexit hill debate hint if am honest. I have settled happily with rationale that the successes of “smaller clubs” have in part come about due to lesser pressure from pent up expectation whilst the success of “larger clubs” have come about due to significant funds spent on a gamble that paid off! I 100% know D.C. has made big mistakes - I’ve settled on 3 .. a) not selling players b) cocking up the sale of the ground c) the stupid outburst this season re 2 million The rest have been run of mill management of the club errors some by our own making some by others. The worst falsehood is the idea that the North as the owners name because he’s arrogant (he maybe) but it was done to justify extra investment just like D Taxi!

Looking at the tweet 37 million pre Chansiri losses and a 24 million chunk linked to Covid years?

Seriously you going back 9 years and think we were building year on year? You’ve proved my earlier point. DC inherited a club with empty coffers and sadly for us FFP came into play just when we needed to spend big! The Orlando player as per the athletic article was sat in Sheffield and Blackburn won it because in part a range of stats were presented to him about chances created alongside the fact Blackburn were higher in the league. I have heard the rumours and it such examples that warp the anti Chansiri mob - I.e. like after the Barnsley defeat!

They are all scrambling for credit now.

And there you go! Your expectation of the owner is spend big if not go! Loan players make more financial sense for a club teetering on the edge! We have a few out contract that allows a rebuild and restructure on relegation. Ugbo, the striker we signed right at the start of window and then complained we had done bothering despite also securing a keeper right at the front! In one the slowest window yet seen where clubs are looking at FFP RULES and hunkering down? Ugbo as gone to club where we have 3 fellow French players in making him probably a far happier player. Our head of recruitment knew him from his Cardiff days. The player we went to get was a long term investment from Orlando not an immediate fix. We’ve signed 3 players this year who could allow us to cash in for a few million. The first half the year two those players were deemed awful by the anti Chansiri mob. We are slowly adjusting things do not happen overnight unless bought by a Saudi esk cash - and even then the rules mean it could be boom and bust again if your not lucky.