KrolMong Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I think if the Cowleys and the German fella are the front runners, we are looking slightly longer term than we would if we were looking at some of the others. That is no bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I like the suggestion of Bruno Lage but I’d be surprised to see him at S6. Plan B would be Hughton but I’m a bit concerned about how committed he’d be to the cause Id take Bruce (if he can turn it around, even after the way he left), Smith, Manning and Warburton No way - most of the nsames that have been suggested tbh including Bullen, Warnock, Wilder and Cowleys Left field Stuart Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footlikeatractionengine Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Otto_Man said: Got them into the play offs as I recall, but not sure if that was his work or building on someone else's?! His experience at Gillingham ticks a lot of boxes, he was able to work with Scally and saved them from almost certain relegation last season. Have a look where they were when he took over. He didn't save them last season, he barely got them out of the predicament he put them in. Without wanting to ridicule your suggestion, Harris would be a scandalous appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Here we go. Xisco 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Here we go. Xisco 2.0 Has all the credentials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just heard a very nasty rumour that we've given it to Paul Ince. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Owling_Wolf said: Just heard a very nasty rumour that we've given it to Paul Ince. That would be dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Supercockle said: That would be dreadful. No laughing matter! Mate says he's quoting Rob Staton: to be announced tomorrow. FFS if true. Edited October 5, 2023 by Owling_Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: No laughing matter! Mate says he's quoting Rob Staton: to be announced tomorrow. FFS if true. Come on... All betting would have been suspended. He was still 20/1 not long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: No laughing matter! Mate says he's quoting Rob Staton: to be announced tomorrow. FFS if true. Fake news apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I mean I have just seen Steve Evans name is in the frame - best be a fucking large frame All the names linked so far are making me check I am not in some bizarre coma and having terrible nightmares. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 10 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Just heard a very nasty rumour that we've given it to Paul Ince. I think we've given it him the last 3 times we've appointed a new manager🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Another one to add to my “No never” list. Ince is not far off being in the same bracket as Wilder and Warnock for me. Really don’t see what other clubs have seen in him. Didn’t particularly rate him as a player either poor version of Carlton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Oscar Garcia getting mentions. Some good pedigree but some question marks too. Reputation apparently for bringing younger players through. His stats in isolation are checkered but mitigated maybe by circumstances (war in Israel in his second spell after successful first ) and illness of his daughter for 8 years before her passing in November last year a month after his dismissal from Reims. Left field possibility but perhaps career stats too similar to Xisco’s for many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Oscar Garcia getting mentions. Some good pedigree but some question marks too. Reputation apparently for bringing younger players through. His stats in isolation are checkered but mitigated maybe by circumstances (war in Israel in his second spell after successful first ) and illness of his daughter for 8 years before her passing in November last year a month after his dismissal from Reims. Left field possibility but perhaps career stats too similar to Xisco’s for many. Should stand him in good stead for working with DC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, 80s Owl said: Should stand him in good stead for working with DC. Working with mules and donkeys would perhaps be a better preparation! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Garcia’s CV looks okay actually. He’s won league titles in two countries, and taken over a team who were in a relegation battle and kept them up (Celta Vigo). A lot more experience than Xisco. Also he’s a physically bigger bloke so might have a bit more touchline presence. Could do worse, and in fact repeatedly have done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Paul Ince????? 😖 You will be telling me next that Sol Campbell is coming in as his assistant next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Looking back at my previous post in this thread about acceptable criteria for a left field appointment, and rewatching some of Xisco’s interviews, I think the point about English fluency is critical. Whoever comes in will need to motivate a squad which clearly lacks self belief. Xisco’s English was passable, but he clearly wasn’t confident enough in his vocabulary to sound charismatic when speaking in English, along the lines of a Pep, Jose, Klopp or even Carlos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, owl71 said: Garcia’s CV looks okay actually. He’s won league titles in two countries, and taken over a team who were in a relegation battle and kept them up (Celta Vigo). A lot more experience than Xisco. Also he’s a physically bigger bloke so might have a bit more touchline presence. Could do worse, and in fact repeatedly have done. Yes agreed. When you scratch below the surface there's some good stuff. Managed in the championzhip too taking Brighton to playoffs. Looks like he's taken a year off after death of his daughter after an 8 year battle with a brain tumour. Talk of health issues based on suspected heart attack when at Watford. Turned out to be a panic attack ...... just after daughter's illness diagnosed. As you say could do worse and have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Could be anyone from a hamster to Sven going by this nobheads previous appointments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadOwl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Yes agreed. When you scratch below the surface there's some good stuff. Managed in the championzhip too taking Brighton to playoffs. Looks like he's taken a year off after death of his daughter after an 8 year battle with a brain tumour. Talk of health issues based on suspected heart attack when at Watford. Turned out to be a panic attack ...... just after daughter's illness diagnosed. As you say could do worse and have done. Appreciate you taking the time to dig on this. Awful what the guy’s been through with his daughter. The only article doing the rounds on the swfc hashtag (I know, I know) is that appalling YorkshireLive one that makes him sound utterly shite and picked a pretty unflattering pic of him to boot. (Not a dig at Hoyland for sharing that here either btw - it literally does make him out to be Xisco 2.0 and I was glum whilst reading it and didn’t fancy reading further) A quick google sees plenty more articles, not local, with a way more positive outlook on him in general, on him being linked with us, and on him being linked with other champ teams over the summer. I’m not saying he’s my number 1 choice or anything. But now I’d be less pissed off if it happened, versus how I felt after that first article. Probably all moot as it could be anyone that gets the job. But will never understand why our local press are such a bunch of doom merchants and sh*t stirring c*nts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, NomadOwl said: Appreciate you taking the time to dig on this. Awful what the guy’s been through with his daughter. The only article doing the rounds on the swfc hashtag (I know, I know) is that appalling YorkshireLive one that makes him sound utterly shite and picked a pretty unflattering pic of him to boot. (Not a dig at Hoyland for sharing that here either btw - it literally does make him out to be Xisco 2.0 and I was glum whilst reading it and didn’t fancy reading further) A quick google sees plenty more articles, not local, with a way more positive outlook on him in general, on him being linked with us, and on him being linked with other champ teams over the summer. I’m not saying he’s my number 1 choice or anything. But now I’d be less pissed off if it happened, versus how I felt after that first article. Probably all moot as it could be anyone that gets the job. But will never understand why our local press are such a bunch of doom merchants and sh*t stirring c*nts. Because a lot of our fans on social media are doom merchants and sh*t stirring c*nts - and seem to revel in it - so they get the most engagement when they create articles in that vein. Edited October 6, 2023 by Chelters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chelters said: Because a lot of our fans on social media are doom merchants and sh*t stirring c*nts - and seem to revel in it - so they get the most engagement when they create articles in that vein. Every chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadOwl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Oh I know why they do it in that sense. But it’s a cycle they could choose to break if they had any integrity about them. The choosing to eek out a living feeding off of the negativity is the part I’ll never understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, NomadOwl said: Oh I know why they do it in that sense. But it’s a cycle they could choose to break if they had any integrity about them. The choosing to eek out a living feeding off of the negativity is the part I’ll never understand. Unfortunately it is all about the clicks now and bad news and doom and gloom seems to get more of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 05/10/2023 at 12:18, Otto_Man said: Thought about it and still unimpressed with the names circulated. Want = None of those linked - might have been Colin short-term if supporters could accept him. Most can’t so he can feck off! Don't want = all of those linked Left field = Danny Röhl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bellsview said: Welcome back to normality Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 This sums up the standard of the local press https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-are-missing-a-trick-by-not-approaching-neil-warnock-4363205 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Garcia is an interesting option purely because he’s a manager who had good pedigree as a player, and actually was really highly rated as a coach until post Salzburg. And then the wheels have fallen off a little bit which is why he’s being touted. He’s a significant step up in pedigree on all of our previous foreign coaches. But, he’s been very nomadic since 2017 and not had much success. The wheels well and truly fell off at Celts Vigo very very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Warnock 9/4 still ill state this now if DC signs That pig **** he’s gonna need a crash helmet cause I’ll be on south stand chucking coins at Colin’s head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 He may still be favorite and some apparent quotes from him re the Wednesday job. For me I just can't see Colin taking it even if offered. I am sure that very quickly him and DC would clash. Colins record speaks for itself but he's a blunt through and through, just wouldn't work and I can see chaos should he get the job. Personally I reckon he just fancies being offered it and knocking it back. He's in his 70s he REALLY doesn't need the hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lee said: He may still be favorite and some apparent quotes from him re the Wednesday job. For me I just can't see Colin taking it even if offered. I am sure that very quickly him and DC would clash. Colins record speaks for itself but he's a blunt through and through, just wouldn't work and I can see chaos should he get the job. Personally I reckon he just fancies being offered it and knocking it back. He's in his 70s he REALLY doesn't need the hassle. Hope he turns it down then keels over the pig **** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Winco said: Warnock 9/4 still iI’ll be on south stand chucking coins at Colin’s head. Unfortunately not tax deductible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Biggs, Miller, Staton & Crann or pushing the Warnock narrative and it’s doing my head in! Apparently only that prick can save us.. sod off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Have I missed the pre match press conference? Soz if I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 You havent missed it, there wasnt one this week to allow more time to prepare for NT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, EBRA said: Biggs, Miller, Staton & Crann or pushing the Warnock narrative and it’s doing my head in! Apparently only that prick can save us.. sod off! That bunch of ***** dream is for Warnock to come in, take us down and to say how bad a chairman DC is for the greatest EFL manager of all time to fail under him, wankers the lot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 56 minutes ago, EBRA said: Biggs, Miller, Staton & Crann or pushing the Warnock narrative and it’s doing my head in! Apparently only that prick can save us.. sod off! Miller apparently surprised by the strength of the anti Wanker feeling though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, mkowl said: Miller apparently surprised by the strength of the anti Wanker feeling though People forget hes just a stalk poster who got into modern journalism which is the equivalent of shelf stacking when I were a lad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Winco said: Warnock 9/4 still ill state this now if DC signs That pig **** he’s gonna need a crash helmet cause I’ll be on south stand chucking coins at Colin’s head. Bookies odds in relation to managerial appointments mean absolutely zilch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, 80s Owl said: Bookies odds in relation to managerial appointments mean absolutely zilch. Unless it's the Ince (forged) rumour when he was still 20/1 when it was so called sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I think if it was Colin he’d already be here. He’s out of work and available. Unless of course he doesn’t want to take charge yet because it’s Huddersfield we are playing, and would rather wait until after that game - but for me that’s not his style as he’d love the media attention that ex-SWFC manager Moore v ex-HTFC manager Colin (also ex-pig) would bring. It could be that we are after someone in a job, like Steve Evans, or perhaps the search for a replacement is still ongoing - you’d like to think someone was sounded out and lined up though, given Munoz’s sacking was becoming more and more likely as the games went on. I really, really, do not want a foreign coach who hasn’t managed in the Championship (or above) reasonably successfully in the last 18 months or so. We need someone who knows this league, knows the quality of it, knows the pace of it and who will know how to get this squad organised so that they can at least compete with the bottom third of sides within it. If we don’t get a manager with those credentials then we are fucked, it’s that simple. This is why the argument for Colin is as strong as it is, as he has this knowledge and has the experience of this league - but the arguments for not having him are stronger than those are for bringing him in. I already think we are fucked to be honest, because I don’t have the confidence or faith in Chansiri to bring the right man in. Hope I’m wrong but his track record of appointments, plus his stubbornness to do things his way, does not fill me with any hope whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Billysboy said: People forget hes just a stalk poster who got into modern journalism which is the equivalent of shelf stacking when I were a lad. He isn't owt to do with Stalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Got this sent earlier… Heard from someone who has a contact at the club and he says DC has gone for Dean Smith Also, team that got us promoted is pretty much playing tomorrow Can't see it being Smith Nev, he's not spending remember... As for the other bit, I'd be amazed if it wasn't the team from last season, which is mental given the opposition manager knows that team inside out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Billysboy said: People forget hes just a stalk poster who got into modern journalism which is the equivalent of shelf stacking when I were a lad. Rob Staton is the one I remember posting on Owlstalk back in the day. A lot of people think he’s a Miller as when he first got a job with Radio Sheffield he covered and commentated on their games, but he’s actually a SWFC supporter (or he was) as I used to see him at games on a fairly regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bellsview said: Rob Staton is the one I remember posting on Owlstalk back in the day. A lot of people think he’s a Miller as when he first got a job with Radio Sheffield he covered and commentated on their games, but he’s actually a SWFC supporter (or he was) as I used to see him at games on a fairly regular basis. He does support Rotherham as well His Dad told me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Got this sent earlier… Heard from someone who has a contact at the club and he says DC has gone for Dean Smith Also, team that got us promoted is pretty much playing tomorrow I would be surprised if there was anyone at the club who would know both pieces of information. Hardly the stuff they post on the notice board. Smith was someone we were previously linked with and Thompson will know the longer serving players better so both are plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, mkowl said: He does support Rotherham as well His Dad told me Another indoor cap wearing weirdo Staton and Crann post on Stalk or did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, Reesh said: Another indoor cap wearing weirdo Staton and Crann post on Stalk or did. That’s twice in two days I’ve had to take my cap off indoors when reading your comments. I can confirm I am definitely a weirdo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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