Billysboy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Reesh said: He isn't owt to do with Stalk Thought I'd seen him post on there, username Toadie might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 They do post on there, but it's usually to draw attention to something they've written for their papers/books. Don't think I've ever seen them post an opinion on anything or reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Billysboy said: Thought I'd seen him post on there, username Toadie might be wrong. Ah he may do now but he was a journalist before joining the star 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Reesh said: Another indoor cap wearing weirdo Staton and Crann post on Stalk or did. Where do you stand on people that wear caps back to front? Edited October 7, 2023 by Tank_Owl2,0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Where do you stand on people that wear caps back to front? Hung drawn and quartered, with a rusty spoon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachyderm Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 A better idea for a thread would be, "Who in the World Would Want to Manage SWFC?" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Where do you stand on people that wear caps back to front? Their neck 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Dean Smith? So we’re going for another Brummie? Like I said earlier we really need a fluent English speaker… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, pachyderm said: A better idea for a thread would be, "Who in the World Would Want to Manage SWFC?" ... Joe Biden....? He is older than the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Reesh said: Joe Biden....? He is older than the club Be a bit difficult for him with the new rules on not wandering out of the technical area. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 05/10/2023 at 20:12, KrolMong said: I think if the Cowleys and the German fella are the front runners, we are looking slightly longer term than we would if we were looking at some of the others. That is no bad thing. Definitely how Mike Ashley is looking at things...Long term appointment but short term success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Be a bit difficult for him with the new rules on not wandering out of the technical area. 10% off the gates and TV money and a partnership with Dinamo Kiev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Andyben said: 10% off the gates and TV money and a partnership with Dinamo Kiev 10% of our gate money going to Dynamo Kiev, who then appoint his son as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Be a bit difficult for him with the new rules on not wandering out of the technical area. And the rules on not being a *****.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Don't think it'll be Nathan Jones. He's co commentating on 5Live and been very open about Munoz sacking and things in general at Hillsborough. 2+2=5 time. Dean Smith usually does the 12.30 game commentary and it's Jones today. Or it could just be that Jones is there because it's Luton vs Tottenham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Rohl has had talks according to quite a few folks on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Nixon suggesting Rohl is to be announced as the new manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Rohl has had talks according to quite a few folks on Twitter. Evens favourite now on skybet. Rumours in Germany tipping him to join apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Rohl was the one I wanted in the summer based on those allegedly in the frame. I'd be happy with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 It’s a risk. But more of a calculated one than our recent outgoing manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 At least we’ll be on a Rohl if he comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: It’s a risk. But more of a calculated one than our recent outgoing manager Now 1/3 odds on on some sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: It’s a risk. But more of a calculated one than our recent outgoing manager Always a risk element but this one is hard to criticise IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just hope he is allowed the space and time to do his own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Just hope he is allowed the space and time to do his own thing. Yes, if you make an appointment like this it has to be with a long term outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Are we sure he isn’t Swiss? We could be in a Jam if he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, TheExile said: Nixon suggesting Rohl is to be announced as the new manager Ince it is then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Skamp said: At least we’ll be on a Rohl if he comes. I'll get in first with a nickname: Bog. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Yes, if you make an appointment like this it has to be with a long term outlook. Like Xisco? He didn't even sign a player before every man and his dog was calling for him to go back to playing Mooreball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Owling_Wolf said: I'll get in first with a nickname: Bog. Not Lou? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: I'll get in first with a nickname: Bog. Rocken. Keep the music theme going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Like Xisco? He didn't even sign a player before every man and his dog was calling for him to go back to playing Mooreball. Not me. We needed to change. Turned out that Xisco wasn't the right man to do it. He was drowning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: Not Lou? Ooh, you're posh! 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Rocken. Keep the music theme going. What music them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Not really seeing how he fits with what we have as it seems sound on paper just as hiring a manager who got promotion with Watford did, until you mix it with what we have and what we can’t change. If it’s part of a change to establishing a longer term plan then fair enough but could see him being tasked with keeping us up at 34 with no managerial experience….mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Owling_Wolf said: What music them? Disco Rock n Roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Not me. We needed to change. Turned out that Xisco wasn't the right man to do it. He was drowning. He would have, just let the pressure get to him and reverted back to what everyone was clamouring for with the 352. He was actually getting to grips with some of our weaknesses but wasn't getting the results fast enough. The zonal thing everyone was kicking off about didn't concede an open play goal for almost 6 games till the secondhand v Swansea. Most of the goals were pens and set pieces, but they need time and a bit of stability to get right, which he never had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheExile said: Not really seeing how he fits with what we have as it seems sound on paper just as hiring a manager who got promotion with Watford did, until you mix it with what we have and what we can’t change. If it’s part of a change to establishing a longer term plan then fair enough but could see him being tasked with keeping us up at 34 with no managerial experience….mad If you want someone to sort us out and keep us up go for Warnock. This should realistically be a longer term choice, if it happens. It would need a different expectation from both owner and fanbase and indeed there might be the rub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: He would have, just let the pressure get to him and reverted back to what everyone was clamouring for with the 352. He was actually getting to grips with some of our weaknesses but wasn't getting the results fast enough. The zonal thing everyone was kicking off about didn't concede an open play goal for almost 6 games till the secondhand v Swansea. Most of the goals were pens and set pieces, but they need time and a bit of stability to get right, which he never had. I have sympathy for Xisco but for me he was sinking. Parting with him was the right decision for club and for him IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I have sympathy for Xisco but for me he was sinking. Parting with him was the right decision for club and for him IMO He let it get to him and bottled it. We need someone who cam take the inevitable shitstorm when anyone thinks about changing anything because nutters think that 96 points in League One equals success in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Boracic Lint said: He let it get to him and bottled it. We need someone who cam take the inevitable shitstorm when anyone thinks about changing anything because nutters think that 96 points in League One equals success in this league. Yes he cracked. Hard not to feel sympathy for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Yes he cracked. Hard not to feel sympathy for him. The borderline hit job by the very pro DM local media and Sky, with the anti Chansiri stuff didn't help. Never seen a manager get it that hard before. Especially over MJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: The zonal thing everyone was kicking off about didn't concede an open play goal for almost 6 games till the secondhand v Swansea The zigzag zonal between midfield and defence allowed teams to thread balls through with ease and opposition runners to stroll through the gaps as no one went with them. You also mention set pieces and zonal played a part in nearly all conceded goals. Corners and free kicks where attackers just stepped between the zones. A 10 year old could have coached a way round our defensive set piece zonal set up. Watch on YouTube and you can see the grids defenders are sticking to. It looks even worse if you saw the back line's run maps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tylluan said: The zigzag zonal between midfield and defence allowed teams to thread balls through with ease and opposition runners to stroll through the gaps as no one went with them. You also mention set pieces and zonal played a part in nearly all conceded goals. Corners and free kicks where attackers just stepped between the zones. A 10 year old could have coached a way round our defensive set piece zonal set up. Watch on YouTube and you can see the grids defenders are sticking to. It looks even worse if you saw the back line's run maps. Your 1st paragraph: especially Sunderland in 1st half. Absolutely basic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, TheExile said: If it’s part of a change to establishing a longer term plan then fair enough but could see him being tasked with keeping us up at 34 with no managerial experience….mad This is what I'm thinking. He's a brilliant coach but he's never had to deal with our situation, even as an assistant. He's little or no knowledge of operating in thr English transfer market so may have to rely on Chansiri's 'advisors' Bring him in with someone guiding above him and I think it'd work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Boracic Lint said: Like Xisco? He didn't even sign a player before every man and his dog was calling for him to go back to playing Mooreball. But then when he did, he couldn't get a tune out of them. I wanted him to succeed. But he wasn't the man, at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, HoylandOwl said: But then when he did, he couldn't get a tune out of them. I wanted him to succeed. But he wasn't the man, at all. And he's gone. Wrong man, wrong time. But with the backlash over DM leaving, the timing and the state of the squad, it was always a poisoned chalice. I can see us struggling to get an English manager just because of the amount of work to get them up to standard, wouldn't be surprised if DM realised the same and engineered an exit by asking for something he knew Chandiri wouldn't agree to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Boracic Lint said: And he's gone. Wrong man, wrong time. But with the backlash over DM leaving, the timing and the state of the squad, it was always a poisoned chalice. I can see us struggling to get an English manager just because of the amount of work to get them up to standard, wouldn't be surprised if DM realised the same and engineered an exit by asking for something he knew Chandiri wouldn't agree to. I agree with you on this to a degree. The way we won the playoffs gave DM absolute top billing with the media and as soon as 'whatever' happened with DC and DM, we were onto a hiding from them. BUT, Anyone who watched Wednesday over the past couple of years, knows that while DM did a LOT of good, we weren't hardly Pep's Man City side by a long way. BUT, we had a belief and team ethic which we've not seen for a long time. While we needed changes, to succeed in the Championship, I think we needed it to be gradual. Not root and branch. Breaking up things like we did, IMO was never going to work. We needed to BUILD on what we had, not turn the whole applecart upside down. Today showed that, we have the belief and determination, but we needed the guile and skill to go with it. Tweaks, not total transformation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: I agree with you on this to a degree. The way we won the playoffs gave DM absolute top billing with the media and as soon as 'whatever' happened with DC and DM, we were onto a hiding from them. BUT, Anyone who watched Wednesday over the past couple of years, knows that while DM did a LOT of good, we weren't hardly Pep's Man City side by a long way. BUT, we had a belief and team ethic which we've not seen for a long time. While we needed changes, to succeed in the Championship, I think we needed it to be gradual. Not root and branch. Breaking up things like we did, IMO was never going to work. We needed to BUILD on what we had, not turn the whole applecart upside down. Today showed that, we have the belief and determination, but we needed the guile and skill to go with it. Tweaks, not total transformation. The thing is DM became bigger than the club in the eyes of the media and some more 'vocal' social media. The belief came from smashing shite teams every week, or we would have never collapsed in the league, or in the first leg. Today, we won second balls because they weren't pressing them as every team before us have, there was a good thing on twitter about it from the Tom coaching guy about how they aren't winning them under DM. Even so, we showed very little attacking wise, resorting to long balls into the area, much like DM did at the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) No new manager until Mike Ashley signs it off. Edited October 7, 2023 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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