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4 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

IMO from that list.

The only three I'd say definitely try to keep are Byers, Bernard and Windass. 

Other than that, I think Dawson MIGHT be kept as number 2, Iorfa might stick around if his current performances are anything to go by and Bannan as 'club captain'. 

The rest I think will be gone. 

I love Byers myself, and then I read Teddy's post below and he's right. I'd still keep him though.😀

Can't see Barnard signing and I'd prefer he went, I understand it's their job and all that but I do like to see a bit of allegiance. But, he could change my mind.

Windass as Teddy again says spends way too much time injured. I did like them balls he was banging in from the RHS though the other week. When he does play he just doesn't do it enough, for me anyway.

Thing is with Big Dom is I really love him to bits, (no, not like that) it's his speed that I love.

Great point ref. Bannan and it had crossed my mind as well, how do you strip the team Captaincy from someone without alienating them? Explain they're declining and offer them the club Captaincy. I honestly think (and hope) that Bannan is here long term and eventually becomes the head coach/team manager. I understand that won't be a popular view though.

3 hours ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

TBH I wouldnt bust a gut to keep those 3 either.

Windass - has talent but injured too often and inconsistent.

Byers - has averaged 23 games a season since he came. Needs to keep fit and show good form for rest of season to earn another deal IMO.

Bernard - decent on the deck but very average  in the air. Catch 22 as I suspect he sees us as a stepping stone ( hence only agreeing  a year deal) - does well he'll be looking elsewhere. Better than Bambo though.

You'd see the lot gone then Teddy? I must admit I wouldn't be too upset if that was to happen. Sometimes you cling onto things when it really does warrant it.

I do love to hear other peoples views though, exactly like how this site operates, it really is a breath of fresh air. We can come on here, speak our minds without getting slaughtered, not like that..................errrrr, Twitter/X/The Wednesday Sing.

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9 hours ago, Snap said:

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You'd see the lot gone then Teddy? ...........

From your original list I'd  keep Dom.

Keep Bannan on a contract that reflects that age will inevitably  diminish his abilities. Still one of our better players currently. 

I'm not as anti Dawson as some but we should look to improve. Vasquez will likely become a very good keeper in time. He isn't one yet though and he'll  be gone in the summer whatever. We need a genuine clear number 1 keeper and a competent understudy. Both of ours have flaws but are better than permanent bench warmers IMO. 

Palmer clearly not been fully fit since his operation. Assess at the end of the season along with Windass and Byers. Form and fitness for remainder of season will dictate. Jury out.

As I say it's Catch 22 with Bernard. Contracted 'til June - improves and he'll see his future elsewhere. Doesn't  improve and we shouldn't be falling over to tempt him to stay. Ideally he'd have been signed on a 3 year deal like Musaba and Gassama. Work in progress with potential. Do well and at worst we sell for a few bob.

Bar Momo the loanees could all go back for me in January if loan terms allow - not sure they do though. Obviously not seen enough of Momo to decide. 

Hopefully Johnson and James are only on one year deals.

Danny needs wiggle room to bring players in in January. We clearly have to offload some of the ballast to facilitate this.

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Snap said:

........I do love to hear other peoples views though, exactly like how this site operates, it really is a breath of fresh air. We can come on here, speak our minds without getting slaughtered, not like that..................errrrr, Twitter/X/The Wednesday Sing.

You can get salvos fired at you on here - just duck 🤣.

I've hardly wet my toes on X and the other one; not even that. 

It can be abrasive on here occasionally but there's an honesty that some sites (one in particular) don't have. As you say refreshing.

 

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All depends on the level for next season, but, as far as I am concerned, we’d only look at…

1. If Byers stays fit, he stays.

2. I like Bernard, he can stay.

3. Iorfa has been decent, he can stay.

4. We need to see attacking stats from Windass, so goals and assists, if he carries on at this rate, he can go. Otherwise he can stay if we see him contributing.

5. Bannan is an odd one. Regardless of our league we need to be moving away from him but I wouldn’t necessarily get rid.

The rest, including some of the signings we made this summer can be bombed out of the club. Some are not up to the division below either.

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3 hours ago, KrolMong said:

All depends on the level for next season, but, as far as I am concerned, we’d only look at…

1. If Byers stays fit, he stays.

2. I like Bernard, he can stay.

3. Iorfa has been decent, he can stay.

4. We need to see attacking stats from Windass, so goals and assists, if he carries on at this rate, he can go. Otherwise he can stay if we see him contributing.

5. Bannan is an odd one. Regardless of our league we need to be moving away from him but I wouldn’t necessarily get rid.

The rest, including some of the signings we made this summer can be bombed out of the club. Some are not up to the division below either.

I like Musaba a lot, great prospect 

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Crann wrote in the Stir the other week that we had 15 players coming out of contract by the end of the season, set aside the attempt at pressing the panic button and that a good % of those players are loanees he appears to have missed Malilk Wilks out. Did Wilks sign a 3 year contract or is this again a sample of poor journalism and a lack of attention to detail.

Is it any wonder these reporters take to SM for pointers? There doesn't appear to be any robust structure in place, no attention to detail, the asking of poor questions at the Press Conferences. They're on a jolly. But when openly challenged they'll say "You don't understand how it works."

Sorry chaps, it's the other way round, you don't understand how it works, in fact, you haven't got a farking clue.

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6 minutes ago, Lee said:

Facebook post this morning worded as follows.

We asked people wre you cutting back on your spending this Christmas

 

 

It's frankly embarrassing, you see links to their mother paper "National World" they had a breaking headline that the GMC are reviewing Lucy Letbys nurses licence....that is deemed fucking breaking news.

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Only right that when I slag them that I offer praise where due.

 

Decent piece by Alex Miller aside from suggesting we have only 18 points left to play for rather than 81

 

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/the-task-remains-brutal-but-sheffield-wednesday-have-done-something-some-thought-impossible-4431626

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3 hours ago, Andyben said:

So still shit then 

No, time to cut them a bit of slack I reckon, Christmas is coming, a time of goodwill to all men. Here is our favourite reporter getting in the mood, the Christmas spirit. Well done Joe, have a great Christmas.

😂😂😂 Wonder if he's weshed that from last year.

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I've changed my mind, there is absolutely no excuse for errors like this from a so called journalist or a newspaper. It's every time you read the Stir these days and they need to up their game to get themselves at an acceptable level, i.e, a 12/13 year olds level of sentence construction and spelling, and then going back over and checking what you've just written.

Blackburn Rovers captain Sammie Szmodics appeared to choose his words more carefully then manager Jon Dahl Tomasson when discussing the build-up to Marvin Johnson's goal in Sheffield Wednesday's 3-1 win at Hillsborough on Saturday.

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I think Joe needs cutting a bit of slack for a spell, he's on a bit of a downer at the moment. He's thinking that the new immigration rules (announced yesterday) are going to be working against him bringing his wife to the UK. I'm not 100%  sure he's correct on that but I suppose he has a good firm grip on the requirements.

I understand the £38k requirement for new workers coming but I'm not sure whether or not it applies to spouses of spouses, i.e. the UK resident wanting to bring a spouse.

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1 hour ago, Snap said:

I think Joe needs cutting a bit of slack for a spell, he's on a bit of a downer at the moment. He's thinking that the new immigration rules (announced yesterday) are going to be working against him bringing his wife to the UK. I'm not 100%  sure he's correct on that but I suppose he has a good firm grip on the requirements.

I understand the £38k requirement for new workers coming but I'm not sure whether or not it applies to spouses of spouses, i.e. the UK resident wanting to bring a spouse.

I mean if he researched it properly it was referring to care workers where that wage limit still won't apply but in future not being permitted to bring in family. 

Fancy a journalist not doing detailed research first - because if he is a UK resident then she can probably enter the country if they are married. 

Tbh I don't know the specific rule on that but I would be finding the answer before griping on social media 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Snap said:

I think Joe needs cutting a bit of slack for a spell, he's on a bit of a downer at the moment. He's thinking that the new immigration rules (announced yesterday) are going to be working against him bringing his wife to the UK. I'm not 100%  sure he's correct on that but I suppose he has a good firm grip on the requirements.

I understand the £38k requirement for new workers coming but I'm not sure whether or not it applies to spouses of spouses, i.e. the UK resident wanting to bring a spouse.

Oops me having a pop at his research skills and he was right. I always noted Joe was a top journalist

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1 hour ago, Reesh said:

Chocolate Fireguard Face has his say

 

Fucking **** of the highest order that bloke....

He is yes,  shit stirrer of the highest order.

Got me to thinking though about the points we'll get to the year end and what would be reasonable expectations. 

Fixtures are,

Stoke City (Away) 1pt

Norwich City (Away) 0pt

QPR (Home) 3pts

Cardiff City (Home) 3pts

Coventry City (Away) 1pt

Preston North End (Away) 0pt

8 points for me, not brilliant, but not too shabby either, anything more would be a bonus, less could be a disaster. We need 6pts as an absolute minimum.

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6 hours ago, Snap said:

He is yes,  shit stirrer of the highest order.

Got me to thinking though about the points we'll get to the year end and what would be reasonable expectations. 

Fixtures are,

Stoke City (Away) 1pt

Norwich City (Away) 0pt

QPR (Home) 3pts

Cardiff City (Home) 3pts

Coventry City (Away) 1pt

Preston North End (Away) 0pt

8 points for me, not brilliant, but not too shabby either, anything more would be a bonus, less could be a disaster. We need 6pts as an absolute minimum.

If we want a shot at safety I'd hope for 10 points minimum.

 

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