Tylluan Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 2 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: More shit stirring news reporting https://www.thestar.co.uk//sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-set-to-lose-another-key-figure-as-changes-continue-at-hillsborough-4411758 How is this news? "Hughes may be going to Bloomfield Road"? It's news when he's gone. In all honesty he might go. He's worked with Downes for around ten years and Blackpool are looking for a lead analyst. And if Rohl gets his way with the HoR he wants then he's going to want to bring his own analytical team in. But it's not news... Yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 13 minutes ago, Tylluan said: How is this news? "Hughes may be going to Bloomfield Road"? It's news when he's gone. In all honesty he might go. He's worked with Downes for around ten years and Blackpool are looking for a lead analyst. And if Rohl gets his way with the HoR he wants then he's going to want to bring his own analytical team in. But it's not news... Yet. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 1 hour ago, Chelters said: So our recruitment over the summer was dreadful but our head of recruitment leaving is the end of the world? Am I missing something? To me it’s just more evidence of it being as much of a mess off the field as on. The earlier article from Alex Miller highlights the issues Football people had trying to speak with the club. Dooley leaving and not being replaced is another serious concern I have with current going ons at the club. General Manager, Alastair Wilson has absorbed those responsibilities the COO had. Talk to people at the club about how stretched he already was. 59 minutes ago, Tylluan said: Let me be clear Nev, I also think it's time that Chansiri cut his losses and got out. But banners aren't going to make him sell. Signatures on an online form aren't going to make him sell. Hashtags aren't going to make him sell. Jumping up and down at every half arsed 'news' story isn't going to make him sell. The only thing that's going to make him sell is a serious bidder, as KM keeps saying. If there's a tyre kicker trying to use 1867 et-al to effect a fire sale then they might as well give in now. He's not going until someone serious starts the process. So I have to tolerate him and hope that in appointing Rohl he's made a good decision. I have to hope that he backs him and there's nothing to say he won't. I have to hope he still keeps throwing money into the club. But what I have to hope is that he sticks by his, often reiterated, statement that he will only sell to someone who can take the club forward. Because I will guarantee you that if our next owner is another Strafford or a Poundland who mortgages the club to the hilt, or an asset stripper then everyone who wanted Chansiri out will be crying and shouting that it's all his fault for selling to that owner in the first place. I don’t think he has any intention of entertaining offers from serious buyers unless on his unrealistic terms. Hopefully this sort of pressure encourages a change of mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 55 minutes ago, Tylluan said: How is this news? "Hughes may be going to Bloomfield Road"? It's news when he's gone. In all honesty he might go. He's worked with Downes for around ten years and Blackpool are looking for a lead analyst. And if Rohl gets his way with the HoR he wants then he's going to want to bring his own analytical team in. But it's not news... Yet. It’s news to me, first I’d heard 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 9 hours ago, Chelters said: So our recruitment over the summer was dreadful but our head of recruitment leaving is the end of the world? Am I missing something? I have pondered this and conclude No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 (edited) So @Neville Facking Bartosthis summer/season the recruitment team were responsible for signing the following: Hits - Bernard, Musaba*, Gassama* Maybe B Diaby, Pol V., Delgado, Vasquez, Danny Rohl + team Miss - Hendrick, Buckley, M. Diaby, Fletcher, James Xisco Munez + Team Loans are in italics and could be returned in January. Question is, would you trust the same team to improve the squad in January? If not - what would you expect the Chairman to do. Should he back his current coaching team and try to bring in their preferred recruitment staff which includes negotiating their release from other clubs, or stick with what he's got and trust them to sign a new keeper, LB/LWB, 2 Centre Mids and at least one striker? Edited November 16 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 10 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: To me it’s just more evidence of it being as much of a mess off the field as on. The earlier article from Alex Miller highlights the issues Football people had trying to speak with the club. Dooley leaving and not being replaced is another serious concern I have with current going ons at the club. General Manager, Alastair Wilson has absorbed those responsibilities the COO had. Talk to people at the club about how stretched he already was. I don’t think he has any intention of entertaining offers from serious buyers unless on his unrealistic terms. Hopefully this sort of pressure encourages a change of mind What experience do you have of being a CEO or COO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 55 minutes ago, Andyben said: So @Neville Facking Bartosthis summer/season the recruitment team were responsible for signing the following: Hits - Bernard, Musaba*, Gassama* Maybe B Diaby, Pol V., Delgado, Vasquez, Danny Rohl + team Miss - Hendrick, Buckley, M. Diaby, Fletcher, James Xisco Munez + Team Loans are in italics and could be returned in January. Question is, would you trust the same team to improve the squad in January? If not - what would you expect the Chairman to do. Should he back his current coaching team and try to bring in their preferred recruitment staff which includes negotiating their release from other clubs, or stick with what he's got and trust them to sign a new keeper, LB/LWB, 2 Centre Mids and at least one striker? Flawed argument as we don’t know the recruitment team were responsible for them, or which of those. This is the point i was making recently when people were absolving DC of summer signings and going for Xisco. Chansiri has highlighted time and time again how recruitment works. There’s that many cogs that attributing responsibility is difficult, and that’s why I hold him responsible. He’s the one that insists on a structure where there are many voices including advisors putting forward signings. Paixao is one we know of, who are the others? Structurally it’s a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 16 minutes ago, Reesh said: What experience do you have of being a CEO or COO? Is that a serious argument? If so what experience do you have of being a manager, footballer or chairman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 31 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Flawed argument as we don’t know the recruitment team were responsible for them, or which of those. So what were the team doing then? Its not flawed at all, it just doesn't fit your narrative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 24 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Is that a serious argument? If so what experience do you have of being a manager, footballer or chairman? I was wondering why you felt the internal promotion wasn't acceptable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 Fireguard Face Biggs weighs in Now that bloke does have a face for radio and is an absolute **** of the highest order, I assume even his dog hates him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 50 minutes ago, Andyben said: So what were the team doing then? No idea, like I said structurally we’re a mess and have been years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 43 minutes ago, Reesh said: I was wondering why you felt the internal promotion wasn't acceptable? It is, who got the GM position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlMR Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 Lovely well wrote tweet - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 1 minute ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: No idea, like I said structurally we’re a mess and have been years Much like your command of English. 1 minute ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: It is, who got the GM position? There isn't a GM at the club, never has been! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 Just now, OwlMR said: Lovely well wrote tweet - Borrowed Nevs use of the English language, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 Just now, Reesh said: There isn't a GM at the club, never has been! Well who got the job AW has vacated then? Is he the COO now? He’s not, he’s covering the work that he already did alongside that which Dooley did too. Like I say he was already stretched before Liam left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 Deflecting to fucking English lessons now 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Well who got the job AW has vacated then? Is he the COO now? He’s not, he’s covering the work that he already did alongside that which Dooley did too. Like I say he was already stretched before Liam left AW was a glorified TO manager for a long time, he's just absorbed more responsibility, I assume his vacated role was filled internally again with the club advertising for TO staff to fill the void. Nev, why do you come on here, it's hardly a meaningful use of your time, go fuck off. Edited November 16 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 28 minutes ago, Reesh said: Nev, why do you come on here, it's hardly a meaningful; use of your time, go fuck off. Why do you? All you do is call people *****, tell them to fuck off and threaten to ban them. Embarrassing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 Just now, Neville Facking Bartos said: Why do you? All you do is call people *****, tell them to fuck off and threaten to ban them. Embarrassing I have not called anyone a **** for a while, glad you realise you're embarrassing, now do me a favour and go away for a bit, I've got some work to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 4 minutes ago, Reesh said: I have not called anyone a **** for a while, glad you realise you're embarrassing, now do me a favour and go away for a bit, I've got some work to do! Easy fix for that, sign off and get your work done pal 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 Miller making an article out of other peoples work again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaveman Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 5 hours ago, Andyben said: So @Neville Facking Bartosthis summer/season the recruitment team were responsible for signing the following: Hits - Bernard, Musaba*, Gassama* Maybe B Diaby, Pol V., Delgado, Vasquez, Danny Rohl + team Miss - Hendrick, Buckley, M. Diaby, Fletcher, James Xisco Munez + Team Loans are in italics and could be returned in January. Question is, would you trust the same team to improve the squad in January? If not - what would you expect the Chairman to do. Should he back his current coaching team and try to bring in their preferred recruitment staff which includes negotiating their release from other clubs, or stick with what he's got and trust them to sign a new keeper, LB/LWB, 2 Centre Mids and at least one striker? Not disagreeing with the gist of this, but I think it is harsh to call Momo Diaby a 'miss'. I thought he looked pretty good / the standout player in the hour or so that he played before getting injured. Who knows, maybe if he hadn't got injured the season might've gone a bit differently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Miller making an article out of other peoples work again Apart from basically transcribing the podcast let's start with "The Irish entrepreneur, who has been head man at London Road since the departure of Barry Fry in 2006" Fry is currently Peterborough's director of football and has been since 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 1 hour ago, Kaveman said: Not disagreeing with the gist of this, but I think it is harsh to call Momo Diaby a 'miss'. I thought he looked pretty good / the standout player in the hour or so that he played before getting injured. Who knows, maybe if he hadn't got injured the season might've gone a bit differently. He's played an hour all season. Its a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 Joe's 'latest' piece Scraped together from stuff back in May https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-george-byers-contract-future-4412858 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaveman Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 2 hours ago, Andyben said: He's played an hour all season. Its a miss. But could the recruitment team have known that was coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 Could say that about anyone of the other misses though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-contract-bailey-cadamarteri-owls-4412999 Here we go again, the so called Wednesdayite takes another pop, posted to that other place under his own username, he's not so much as reporting it's more of playing to the audience. He's all jovial in them press conferences, keeps it low key, picks his questions up from here (the Delgado one was a classic) mainly then takes to the keyboard and starts sniping. I know you're reading Crann so it's time to grow a pair. If you want to just continuously snipe at the club have the balls to ask some tough questions in the PC, and start thinking of your own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 18 minutes ago, Snap said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-contract-bailey-cadamarteri-owls-4412999 Here we go again, the so called Wednesdayite takes another pop, posted to that other place under his own username, he's not so much as reporting it's more of playing to the audience. He's all jovial in them press conferences, keeps it low key, picks his questions up from here (the Delgado one was a classic) mainly then takes to the keyboard and starts sniping. I know you're reading Crann so it's time to grow a pair. If you want to just continuously snipe at the club have the balls to ask some tough questions in the PC, and start thinking of your own. That's atrocious journalism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 1 hour ago, Reesh said: That's atrocious journalism. From an atrocious journalist (I use that term lightly) seems to be writing articles to please his buddies on stalk rather than inform the general reader, you really are a wankstain Joseph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 17 Author Share Posted November 17 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/sheffield-united-prince-abdullah-sells-takeover-blades-4412702 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 Just imagine if it was our French club that was done for financial breaches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 8 minutes ago, Andyben said: Just imagine if it was our French club that was done for financial breaches Especially following on from the Chinese clubs wrongdoings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 To be honest, I think this fear mongerer has missed his forte, he should be reporting on climate change. FFS, what's up with these dumplings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 To save anyone time just in case they can't be arsed. Crann has used some poetic licence by attempting to show some of our loan players as though they were contracted to us and not their parent club. Disingenuous at best IMO. The list he speaks about, to save you time and with my own comments are. Gregory-His time is up. Dawson- Be glad to see the back of him. Palmer- Has to go now. Bannan- Bit part next season should he want it, i've a feeling Rohl will want rid though. Windass- Move him on. Vaulks-I'd keep for the bench but seems out of favour. Iorfa- Get him signed up. Byers- As with Big Dom, keep him. Bakinson- Just not up to it, what was Munoz seeing? Barnard- Average but appears he thinks he's better. Potential, offer him the going rate and then wave bye bye when he knocks it back. Hendrick- Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Vasquez- Not ours. Buckley-Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Momo Diaby-WTF, haven't a clue. Fletcher-Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 19 Author Share Posted November 19 1 hour ago, Snap said: To save anyone time just in case they can't be arsed. Crann has used some poetic licence by attempting to show some of our loan players as though they were contracted to us and not their parent club. Disingenuous at best IMO. The list he speaks about, to save you time and with my own comments are. Gregory-His time is up. Dawson- Be glad to see the back of him. Palmer- Has to go now. Bannan- Bit part next season should he want it, i've a feeling Rohl will want rid though. Windass- Move him on. Vaulks-I'd keep for the bench but seems out of favour. Iorfa- Get him signed up. Byers- As with Big Dom, keep him. Bakinson- Just not up to it, what was Munoz seeing? Barnard- Average but appears he thinks he's better. Potential, offer him the going rate and then wave bye bye when he knocks it back. Hendrick- Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Vasquez- Not ours. Buckley-Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Momo Diaby-WTF, haven't a clue. Fletcher-Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Are you stupid by birth or by choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 19 Author Share Posted November 19 Contrast the approach of the journalist of both sheffield clubs, mongeyed Hall buries his head whilst Alex and Joe spout uneducated pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Bad news for content on this thread, Joe Crann is on holiday for a week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 19 Author Share Posted November 19 49 minutes ago, mkowl said: Bad news for content on this thread, Joe Crann is on holiday for a week Hope he gets stranded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 13 hours ago, Reesh said: Are you stupid by birth or by choice? Objection your Honour. Leading question. 2 hours ago, mkowl said: Bad news for content on this thread, Joe Crann is on holiday for a week Yes, he mentioned this the other day. Billy no mates off to Prague I think he said, asking for information on X. Thought he could've slotted a trip to SA his adopted country in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 On 16/11/2023 at 17:41, Andyben said: Could say that about anyone of the other misses though? There's a huge difference in saying it about those who've been desperately unlucky like Momo and those who've proved to be awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 2 hours ago, Snap said: Objection your Honour. Leading question. Yes, he mentioned this the other day. Billy no mates off to Prague I think he said, asking for information on X. Thought he could've slotted a trip to SA his adopted country in. Shame he couldn't. His chances of meeting his end violently are a lot less in Prague 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Greno said: Shame he couldn't. His chances of meeting his end violently are a lot less in Prague Poor old Joe everyone hates him on here, well most do anyway. Meanwhile over at that other place they worship him, won't have a word said against him or the others come to think of it. Saw one get bumped recently for trying. Edited November 19 by Snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 It's reyt weird how you feel the need to constantly tell us what people on Owlstalk think about stuff. If any of us were bothered there'd be a right easy thing we could do about it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Ah, right. I can see how that might look now. Only been here 5 minutes and spouting about another site. I will cease and desist to the best of my ability to talk about that other site on here until such time that I have made clear that I'm not a plant. Can't promise not to jump in if someone else mentions it though, if that's acceptable to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 20 hours ago, Snap said: To save anyone time just in case they can't be arsed. Crann has used some poetic licence by attempting to show some of our loan players as though they were contracted to us and not their parent club. Disingenuous at best IMO. The list he speaks about, to save you time and with my own comments are. Gregory-His time is up. Dawson- Be glad to see the back of him. Palmer- Has to go now. Bannan- Bit part next season should he want it, i've a feeling Rohl will want rid though. Windass- Move him on. Vaulks-I'd keep for the bench but seems out of favour. Iorfa- Get him signed up. Byers- As with Big Dom, keep him. Bakinson- Just not up to it, what was Munoz seeing? Barnard- Average but appears he thinks he's better. Potential, offer him the going rate and then wave bye bye when he knocks it back. Hendrick- Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Vasquez- Not ours. Buckley-Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. Momo Diaby-WTF, haven't a clue. Fletcher-Not our player and will more than likely be gone in January. IMO from that list. The only three I'd say definitely try to keep are Byers, Bernard and Windass. Other than that, I think Dawson MIGHT be kept as number 2, Iorfa might stick around if his current performances are anything to go by and Bannan as 'club captain'. The rest I think will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 13 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: IMO from that list. The only three I'd say definitely try to keep are Byers, Bernard and Windass. Other than that, I think Dawson MIGHT be kept as number 2, Iorfa might stick around if his current performances are anything to go by and Bannan as 'club captain'. The rest I think will be gone. TBH I wouldnt bust a gut to keep those 3 either. Windass - has talent but injured too often and inconsistent. Byers - has averaged 23 games a season since he came. Needs to keep fit and show good form for rest of season to earn another deal IMO. Bernard - decent on the deck but very average in the air. Catch 22 as I suspect he sees us as a stepping stone ( hence only agreeing a year deal) - does well he'll be looking elsewhere. Better than Bambo though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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