Winco Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Greno said: Nice to see you using your Sundays for intellectual pursuits 😁 Yes I find the “nipple count” especially pleasing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Some surprisingly negative comments about the forum which surprises me. Lot of love for Reesh though 🤔. I'm heartbroken..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Best part of it is Toadie blocking OO on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Andyben said: Best part of it is Toadie blocking OO on twitter Has he? Well how very mature. Wait til I start highlighting his fucking continual errors, the bloke works for a local rag that's shedding jobs quicker than Nissan Post brexit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Go on @PaddyBlond-0 I'll dangle the line. What is in question, for the majority of this thread, is Mr Crann making a living out of journalism, and writing mostly about the club he loves, yet failing to proof read before it's posted. Manuel Neuter being a glaring error and has been deservedly pointed out. Lifting an article from another newspaper site (might be part of the same stable) and still getting the Cowley's mixed up in the bit he's written. I'm not denying his Wednesday affiliation nor his dedication but he sets himself up when doing stuff like this in a role he's supposed to be competent in. Then shuts down the right to reply when slagging off this thread yet allowing others to jump on the bandwagon with no chance of debate or defence. So I'll offer you the chance of right to reply to my post. To debate and defend Joe for shutting down his X feed to anyone on here, including me. To be honest, he'd have stood taller in my estimation if he'd have come on here and said "you've got me lads, thanks for pointing it out and I'll try and get it changed". That might have shut this thread down by the fifth post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Shame really, The Star was my main source of any info Wednesday related in my teens. Can remember mock fighting my dad to get to it first when we had it delivered. Like was said earlier journalists like Thompson and Payne to name 2 were another level to today's frauds, guess the internet makes for lazy journalism don't know how it makes them thick as porridge though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Just had a read of the Twitter thread and I doubt Paddy will be replying @Tylluan he’s been banned 😂 Shame isn't it. Joining up to post hit and run attacks on this thread is hardly going to be allowed. Edited October 15, 2023 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Going back to the 1960's fans have regularily slagged off the Star " journalists " . In the days when they used to do proper match reports ,the general quote was " must have been to a different mactch than the one I went to " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 7 hours ago, lobster said: Going back to the 1960's fans have regularily slagged off the Star " journalists " . In the days when they used to do proper match reports ,the general quote was " must have been to a different mactch than the one I went to " Such is life, it works both ways I have come on here happy with our performance and been shocked at the criticism. Ok it's generally more everyone else is happy and I am not. Certainly times last season where the "win is a win" mantra was said but we rarely got the performance and it never really materialised at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 14/10/2023 at 17:27, LiamOwl said: Thought he was Italian reading that second sentence. Awww shaddup a ya face 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I’m going to defend the journos a bit but more on the web stuff rather than print. So, there is very little excuse to get it wrong in print, purely because the Sub is responsible for fact checking the journos content and also doing a final pass of the output (sometimes the sports ed will do an approval). In short, very little margin of error because you can’t simply reprint. So, if there is an error within print, it’s a pretty mighty mistake. For the web stuff, the margin for error is a lot lighter. In short, the journo submits content via a CMS, and then there will likely be a grad who is responsible for a QA of the content (this is an automated approval step), that can indeed be skipped, but because the content can be republished at the touch of a button, errors are accepted and then fixed. Journos will have a target of submitting a certain amount of web content per day so it becomes more production line based. And for the record, the types of errors you are seeing aren’t just Star based, but you will see them across all regional publishers. I’ve seen similar complaints about the YEP and MEN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I’m not excusing it, but, it’s what regional journalism has now become. The fact is that within 10 years, journalism will only be needed to gather info, not to write the content. I have various AI dev accounts, and it’s ability to write content already surpasses what a human can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Are the journos full time? There appear to be 3 Wednesday specific ones. If so, it's slim pickings with one player interview and a press conference every week being what seems to be their only access to the club. Even with all the drama, the lack of anything leaking from the club doesn't leave much for them, especially when anything that does leak they usually find out from social media anyway or repost from other sources. So I do have sympathy for them. Bad grammar and proofreading is inexcusable though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Are the journos full time? There appear to be 3 Wednesday specific ones. If so, it's slim pickings with one player interview and a press conference every week being what seems to be their only access to the club. Even with all the drama, the lack of anything leaking from the club doesn't leave much for them, especially when anything that does leak they usually find out from social media anyway or repost from other sources. So I do have sympathy for them. Bad grammar and proofreading is inexcusable though. This isn't out of the ordinary, the players have more demands on them in terms of dealing with things for sponsorships, other commercial activities/activations as well as the interviews for club publication, be it online or match day programme. As crazy as it might sound, a football club can also struggle for actual spoken content from the players. I've been there and it's a constant battle trying to balance out not interrupting preparations for games, listening to what the manager wants, after all they can also put a stop on certain players talking if they see fit for a particular reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Just do what the Star lads do Talk about attendances, regurgitate old material every 2 weeks and call in Uni lecturers and class them as experts when anything financial pops up. Edited October 16, 2023 by Reesh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: This isn't out of the ordinary, the players have more demands on them in terms of dealing with things for sponsorships, other commercial activities/activations as well as the interviews for club publication, be it online or match day programme. As crazy as it might sound, a football club can also struggle for actual spoken content from the players. I've been there and it's a constant battle trying to balance out not interrupting preparations for games, listening to what the manager wants, after all they can also put a stop on certain players talking if they see fit for a particular reason. It's not a slight in the club, at least they do give interviews. It's more the question of sustainability. Can the output from the club support 3 full time journos and numerous 'Yorkshire' or 'Sheffield' ones? Every interview, comment or bit of news comes out from the Star, Examiner, YP etc. about 15 mins apart with almost identical copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Boracic Lint said: It's not a slight in the club, at least they do give interviews. It's more the question of sustainability. Can the output from the club support 3 full time journos and numerous 'Yorkshire' or 'Sheffield' ones? Every interview, comment or bit of news comes out from the Star, Examiner, YP etc. about 15 mins apart with almost identical copy. Hopefully the Star goes bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Even this is a rehash of their story from last week albeit with Manuel Neuer having his name correct this time. https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/new-sheffield-wednesday-manager-cites-two-bayern-munich-legends-as-vital-experience-4373164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: It's not a slight in the club, at least they do give interviews. It's more the question of sustainability. Can the output from the club support 3 full time journos and numerous 'Yorkshire' or 'Sheffield' ones? Every interview, comment or bit of news comes out from the Star, Examiner, YP etc. about 15 mins apart with almost identical copy. Only the editors / financial depts of those publications can answer you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Only the editors / financial depts of those publications can answer you that. It may be financially viable, probably is. Doesn't mean it's needed though, just like them BT wankers that spent 6 months digging the road up to put fibre in just for Virgin to come along and do it all again for another 6 months as soon as they finished to put theirs in. Again, financially viable, but would be better just doing it once, for everyone's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Boracic Lint said: It may be financially viable, probably is. Doesn't mean it's needed though, just like them BT wankers that spent 6 months digging the road up to put fibre in just for Virgin to come along and do it all again for another 6 months as soon as they finished to put theirs in. Again, financially viable, but would be better just doing it once, for everyone's sake. As long as the clicks on the articles and ads keep coming, then they'll be viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Arent most "Journalists" freelancers nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: Arent most "Journalists" freelancers Shiit nowadays? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 hours ago, KrolMong said: I’m not excusing it, but, it’s what regional journalism has now become. The fact is that within 10 years, journalism will only be needed to gather info, not to write the content. I have various AI dev accounts, and it’s ability to write content already surpasses what a human can do. Is that 'AI deviant' accounts? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 hours ago, KrolMong said: I’m going to defend the journos a bit but more on the web stuff rather than print. So, there is very little excuse to get it wrong in print, purely because the Sub is responsible for fact checking the journos content and also doing a final pass of the output (sometimes the sports ed will do an approval). In short, very little margin of error because you can’t simply reprint. So, if there is an error within print, it’s a pretty mighty mistake. For the web stuff, the margin for error is a lot lighter. In short, the journo submits content via a CMS, and then there will likely be a grad who is responsible for a QA of the content (this is an automated approval step), that can indeed be skipped, but because the content can be republished at the touch of a button, errors are accepted and then fixed. Journos will have a target of submitting a certain amount of web content per day so it becomes more production line based. And for the record, the types of errors you are seeing aren’t just Star based, but you will see them across all regional publishers. I’ve seen similar complaints about the YEP and MEN. But I highlight the Star because it is our local paper reporting on our club so I notice it much more than other regional papers cos I zero interest in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Don't get why The Stir choose the angle they do. Live away from Sheffield now and a Stir subscription would be right up my street. But....whenever I read an article about Wednesday there is always a shade thrown. Losing a lot of subscriptions by their decision, who wants to read constant sniping? The blunts angle is polar opposite to what we get. Is it Pig editor/ ownership ? RS are similar, is this from when we stopped having em or because they aren't getting freebies /info being fed. Summat is off. Sick of hearing from local media how cunty we are but the Dingles/ Toytown/ Pigs are lauded. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimisticOwl Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Shall we club together to buy this for Reesh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, OptimisticOwl said: Shall we club together to buy this for Reesh? Keep it; you never know when you'll run out of bog roll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 More bollocks from Faceache Biggs https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-fans-need-to-play-their-part-in-bold-new-era-4376359 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Reesh said: More bollocks from Faceache Biggs https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-fans-need-to-play-their-part-in-bold-new-era-4376359 Cheeky bastard pushing it onto the fans. The press never gave Xisco a chance, their beloved Darren was the next Pep and the "evil dictator" is always lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ozzie said: Cheeky bastard pushing it onto the fans. The press never gave Xisco a chance, their beloved Darren was the next Pep and the "evil dictator" is always lying. He has form for hating the fans does Biggs, shame his fireguard face didn't scare more kids off from putting their fingers in the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Fuck me!!! https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/youre-not-really-a-fan-of-sheff-wed-if-you-havent-done-most-of-these-9-things-4375368 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Reesh said: Fuck me!!! https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/youre-not-really-a-fan-of-sheff-wed-if-you-havent-done-most-of-these-9-things-4375368 10. Pray that fucking shit rag goes under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Is that for fucking real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 Tutted loudly at the falling standards of journalism 12 Realised that WAWAW is a pile of shit - that the only thing I have in common with many is the football team I support 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlMR Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Great to hear Crann asking the important questions in the press conference - 'Have you found anywhere to live yet?' 'There's lots of different languages in the squad, your English is very good do you speak any other language?' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Is the zoom a decision from Wednesday so they can just turn off tinternet to the imbeciles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ozzie said: Is the zoom a decision from Wednesday so they can just turn off tinternet to the imbeciles? Time saving apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andyben Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 By Joe Cran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mkowl Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 They will.find a way of suggesting Chansiri is at fault for not building a dam further upstream on the Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said: It's pathetic really It's a sad state of affairs at was once a decent source of news and sport back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 Not the Star but more shite from bum chin Dom Howson https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/dejphon-chansiri-wednesday-survival-mission-27951282?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Reesh said: It's a sad state of affairs at was once a decent source of news and sport back in the day. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Not the Star but more shite from bum chin Dom Howson https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/dejphon-chansiri-wednesday-survival-mission-27951282?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target Obvious they get sloppy seconds from the club now, hence the disdain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Says it all when they get called out on being a bit shit that they just use their following to chat shit about OO and have a pop. Instead of "there's criticisms of me, is it justified? Am i bit wank and biased/ blinkered/ negative? Do I need to do better?" If any of you are reading this and want the paper to live. Stop being ***** to Wednesday and try to reign in the pigs/ toytown/ dingles arse licking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Yorkshire Live Ricky Charlesworth Sheffield Wednesday man to consider options in January transfer window after 19-month exile it's Ciaran Brennan btw Edited October 23, 2023 by Ozzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Cap head Crann getting shirty on stalk cos some are asking why local journalists aren't delving more into Red Bull connections re coaching set up. Guessing there's fuck all in it but nice to see him getting it from his followers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Alex Miller this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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