Andyben Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Move out of Sheffield and away from the corrupt tentacles of the goddawful council Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceups Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 47 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Get it rebuilt. Make it totally different. Get rid of the legacy that went before, and stop more potential abuse/council/sag bollocks. Absolutely this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 We should get Gary Lineker to tweet that the Govt should pay to knock it down and re-build it We could even bring in immigrants to do it cheaply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Or even better, knock it down and put a temporary stand aka Gillingham on the footprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 The SAG won’t be happy until they’ve shut the ground. Scared shitless of the publicity because it’s Hillsborough. The group is clearly not fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 So basically now the stand is only able to have roughly have the seats occupied. Is it clear whether the decision is reversible, ie could the club get the capacity up again if particularly measures are taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Get it rebuilt. Make it totally different. Get rid of the legacy that went before, and stop more potential abuse/council/sag bollocks. Who pays for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: So basically now the stand is only able to have roughly have the seats occupied. Is it clear whether the decision is reversible, ie could the club get the capacity up again if particularly measures are taken. Don't think it'll ever go back up. They've done us for too many people on the upper concourse buying pies and ale at the same time, so remediation is less people to buy pies. On the lower we've been done for people choosing to leave their designated seats and sit/stand more centrally, which is what the pigs have picked up their capacity reduction for. Short of relaxing the ban on taking drinks back to seats I can't see a reduction in concourse numbers as building more kiosks would still see the same footfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Reesh said: Who pays for it? I think there needs to be something where the FA or someone helps pay for it. The ‘laws’ we have followed, we have proven to have done nothing wrong staff wise either, so we shouldn’t be hamstrung by the decisions of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I see the Mail are using ‘crush’ in their headlines about the capacity in the Lepp being reduced. Absolute lying scum yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: I see the Mail are using ‘crush’ in their headlines about the capacity in the Lepp being reduced. Absolute lying scum yet again. Don't look at the f*cking thing. Absolute scumbag rag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: I think there needs to be something where the FA or someone helps pay for it. The ‘laws’ we have followed, we have proven to have done nothing wrong staff wise either, so we shouldn’t be hamstrung by the decisions of others. The FA won't cos that would be opening the door to compensation claims from the bin dippers. That would be akin to admitting their own failure on that fateful day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 You can access the full minutes of the SAG meeting. Some of the technicalities are revealing. That the definition of acceptable crowd density is 3.3 people per square metre. And in a modern stadium the concourse has to have available space of 50% of the seating capacity. In the West Stand it is 30% - permitted under the guidelines as its an old structure. But you can see that they are trying to increase that ratio to the modern standard. And they can't easily rectify the concourse space so you hit the other side of the equation. And perhaps therein lies the issue, you get a Premier League club fans turn up, who invariably go to modern stadiums And you can grasp why SAG are ultra cautious compared to other parts of the country. The point about stewarding levels I find interesting, partly because significant numbers were outside the stadium, 20 at least on Claywheels Lane dealing with the 60 coaches from Newcastle. So I suspect a number of the experienced folk were outside pre match before migrating inside as kick off got nearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: Unfortunately SCC have proved time and time again there incompetence in virtually every area of governance , they were always going to bow to any sort of pressure whatsoever in fact it wont stop here now , the next set of fans that complain will result in it getting reduced again . Will Chansiri rebuild it ? probably not in the short term , realistically that stand will be closed completely sooner rather than later . What SAG will suggest they are happy with once that happens and they have to house away fans somewhere else is anyone's guess Whilst I get said point, can you appreciate given the history why all the local agencies are ultra cautious. I mean we all know how the away sections Wednesday fans go to in League 1 would hugely fail on said concourse capacity metrics. I mean I wouldn't have wanted to vacate the away end at Wycombe or The Valley in a rush. But we don't complain, just accept what it is. If we didn't then already insufficient away ticket numbers would be cut, shoot yourself in the foot somewhat Like I say the Newcastle fans did not object to the capacity levels in Trafalgar Square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Would be interesting if we got Newcastle away in the cup next season wouldn’t it. Daily Mail should be reported on Twitter for misinformation the way they have headlined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: Unfortunately SCC have proved time and time again there incompetence in virtually every area of governance , they were always going to bow to any sort of pressure whatsoever in fact it wont stop here now , the next set of fans that complain will result in it getting reduced again . Will Chansiri rebuild it ? probably not in the short term , realistically that stand will be closed completely sooner rather than later . What SAG will suggest they are happy with once that happens and they have to house away fans somewhere else is anyone's guess They are doing the same across the City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraddersTim Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 The reporter who started this all off is now claiming to be utterly vindicated and wondering if he'll get an apology from Wednesday. How about...No, now fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Why was the capacity reduction the lead story on Talk Sport news bulletin this morning ?? Absolute bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Regardless of what Wednesday do to the Lepp, including the meeting of safety requirements (which we have done for years). The opinion in the media and fans from other clubs will not change until the whole stand is pulled down. And that won’t happen while the stand is deemed safe, they may reduce capacity, which as Reesh has said, has also happened at Bramall Lane. For the stand to be pulled down, it’s either going to be something that DC decides to do and fund, which won’t happen until we threaten the top flight. Or, the FA/council etc. will need to order it and fund it - which won’t happen either as neither have a pot to piss in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 There's a headline in the Daily Fail asking why we didn't release the full findings after the investigation, regarding the now-revealed capacity reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just as a note, reducing the capacity is not going to have much of an impact this season. The only clubs who historically have decent followings would be Derby and potentially Barnsley. But, next season, we would easily be losing out on nearly 50k a game with 1600 less supporters in the away end (depending on who we play). I can imagine some clubs getting a bit shouty about this. And for the record, if we happen to draw Newcastle again in the cup. Stick them in the lower tier with a few hundred tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 If the Daily Mail journalist thinks he is vindicated then it's says more about the poor state of journalism in this country and certainly his "newspaper" and their standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Smart phones can't have made it the North East as not one video or photo showing the "horrific" events of the day. 1 vlog from a lad that showed there was zero issues and stewards directing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 hours ago, BraddersTim said: The reporter who started this all off is now claiming to be utterly vindicated and wondering if he'll get an apology from Wednesday. How about...No, now fuck off. An apology for what? Its still proved there’s no wrongdoing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: An apology for what? Its still proved there’s no wrongdoing Still using 1980's drawing for his story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Anybody got any thoughts on this, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 What a weasel wanker, hope DC sees and sues the **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Anybody got any thoughts on this, He obviously hasn't got any thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Ozzie said: What a weasel wanker, hope DC sees and sues the **** Too damn right. This needs some serious lawyering by the club Get the fuckers in court and put him on the stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Imagine using the proceeds of hack journalism like that to feed your wife and kids. Must make you feel dead behind the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I’ve just read the article. It’s nasty, it questions the actual morals of some of the staff at Wednesday, and it closes by saying that we should have pulled it down, and actually renamed the stadium. It’s poisonous and designed to generate feeling and emotion. It’s an absolute axe job on the club. Whether there is any legal discourse, no idea. I am sure DC will be taking a look. Just a note. Should we play Newcastle, I’m afraid that no fans will be allowed. Same if we played Liverpool. Away fans banned from those two clubs. Oh, and guess where Ian Herbert comes from? Yes… Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, KrolMong said: I’ve just read the article. It’s nasty, it questions the actual morals of some of the staff at Wednesday, and it closes by saying that we should have pulled it down, and actually renamed the stadium. It’s poisonous and designed to generate feeling and emotion. It’s an absolute axe job on the club. Whether there is any legal discourse, no idea. I am sure DC will be taking a look. Just a note. Should we play Newcastle, I’m afraid that no fans will be allowed. Same if we played Liverpool. Away fans banned from those two clubs. Oh, and guess where Ian Herbert comes from? Yes… Liverpool. Actually suggests we rename the stadium like they did Heysel, you know the place where them scouse ***** caused the deaths of 39 people. The twat wants kicking legally and physically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I’ve settled down a bit since I read it but I’m still furious, particularly on the back of the decision by SAG to reduce LL capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On a positive, nothing like success to galvanise a fan base plus shit like this just makes it stronger just what we need to get over the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/author/ian-herbert/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlMR Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 More..... 0 injuries, amazing how to Portsmouth and wednesday fans had no issues a few months earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Here he is. Rent a **** Maguire 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 There’s been a look into Elland Road after Newcastle fans ‘complained’ about that away end too. Apologies if that was posted before but noticed it earlier. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/24/leeds-to-review-crowd-safety-after-newcastle-fans-complain-of-crush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpworthOwl Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 only give em 500 tickefs next time. There wont be a problem then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, EpworthOwl said: only give em 500 tickefs next time. There wont be a problem then! You can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Perhaps these journalists need to ponder the travesty of why the increased Anfield Road stand capacity of 7000 seats, only 1000 are going to people on the season ticket waiting list of several thiusand, 3000 to general sale - where you pay more and the rest to hospitality - where you pay even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: That would be a narrative that no journalist would ever cover , there's a depth of protectionism to everything Liverpool FC thats built up over the decades that no journalist or Politician would ever go near , as wound up as I get as I have a particularly unique insight into what really happened , I have learned to accept that in my lifetime that unspeakably diabloical fan base and club will never ever be held to account for anything in the past or indeed the future ........ The Herbert thing today is clearly libellous I hope DC goes for them I can't argue with that Sadly the Club probably has no ability to sue on said article. Despite the language used they will claim the underlying facts are simply being reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I doubt this is feasible but it would be fascinating to do a Freedom of Information request to the EPL and /or the Secretary of State that covers sport to request details of the correspondence on the takeover of Newcastle and the links to Saudi Arabia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12823521/premier-league-told-to-re-examine-newcastles-links-to-saudi-arabia-by-amnesty-international-after-us-court-filing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just bulldoze the fucking thing, get rid, leave it as a 3 stand stadium & fuck the away supporters off, I'm sick of hearing about it every other week now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: Just bulldoze the fucking thing, get rid, leave it as a 3 stand stadium & fuck the away supporters off, I'm sick of hearing about it every other week now. Against the rules, pal. Otherwise twats like Derby would stop us going altogether, no doubt, instead of just halving our numbers. We are required to give a minimum percentage to away teams I'm fairly sure. So if there's no away stand they have to come in our stands and SAG would no doubt reduce our own numbers by a ridiculous amount. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Move and bulldoze the lot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraddersTim Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Andyben said: Move and bulldoze the lot Would cost a pretty penny and who wants a soulless bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Better than a semi derelict graveyard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraddersTim Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Andyben said: Better than a semi derelict graveyard Slightly harsh, even the Fail didn't go that far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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