KrolMong Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Something doesn’t smell right about this. That stand has not changed since the rebuild after 89. We’ve had multiple away end sellouts including 10 years of Premier League teams, countless Sheffield Derbies, big gates from other championship and league one clubs. No issues, and I mean no issues whatsoever. We end up with a non sold out away end where we can clearly see an issue with fans not taking the seats they have been allocated, and blocked entry into the stand. We get a journo making a point, making the right noise to the right people, and all of a sudden, the machine has kicked into gear, from presenters, to people involved in the tragedy in 89’, all coming out. Despite not making a peep in the previous 25 years. It also feels pre-planned an coordinated. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 A remarkable coincidence that the offspring of a Liverpool player and manager has stirred this all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 It feels far too coordinated. Kelly Cates picks up a tweet from a regional journo from a north east paper… and all of a sudden, we have multiple groups calling for the FA to act, the stand to be demolished… dare I say this was a long drawn out plan finally coming to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Apparently it's been raised on Sky Sports tonight, and one Newcastle fan was slagging things off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, KrolMong said: Something doesn’t smell right about this. That stand has not changed since the rebuild after 89. We’ve had multiple away end sellouts including 10 years of Premier League teams, countless Sheffield Derbies, big gates from other championship and league one clubs. No issues, and I mean no issues whatsoever. We end up with a non sold out away end where we can clearly see an issue with fans not taking the seats they have been allocated, and blocked entry into the stand. We get a journo making a point, making the right noise to the right people, and all of a sudden, the machine has kicked into gear, from presenters, to people involved in the tragedy in 89’, all coming out. Despite not making a peep in the previous 25 years. It also feels pre-planned an coordinated. It has changed, pal. I believe it's had its capacity reduced in more recent times, as have other areas, especially the closed corner nearby. Btw, you can add to your list of major crowds since the rebuilding several more F. A. Cup semi finals, a replayed League Cup Final and 3 group games in Euro 86, though Tyrkey only brought about 2,000 as they were already out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Apparently it's been raised on Sky Sports tonight, and one Newcastle fan was slagging things off. One bitter and twisted wanker cos they lost. The video above shows how there is fuck all issue We have taken a lot of shit over the years, about time we started shouting back about vindictive twats like Kelly Dalglish and the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 The low number of stewards in the pics could be a) they were outside / behind the stand ensuring orderly behaviour outside. It must be common practice that stewards do several tasks during the course of a match. b) they were probably at least 20 stewards pre match on Claywheels Lane. So not a place they would ordinarily be but due to 60 odd coaches and fucking off home fans who normally park there - they probably went to the stadium post kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, KrolMong said: It feels far too coordinated. Kelly Cates picks up a tweet from a regional journo from a north east paper… and all of a sudden, we have multiple groups calling for the FA to act, the stand to be demolished… dare I say this was a long drawn out plan finally coming to fruition. Any demolishing should have been paid for by the FA as they had rented the stadium but I assume they refused as it would be seen as admission of their guilt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Owling_Wolf said: It has changed, pal. I believe it's had its capacity reduced in more recent times, as have other areas, especially the closed corner nearby. Btw, you can add to your list of major crowds since the rebuilding several more F. A. Cup semi finals, a replayed League Cup Final and 3 group games in Euro 86, though Tyrkey only brought about 2,000 as they were already out. Loved Euro 86.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Reesh said: Loved Euro 86.... Wassap Tyrkey??? 😋 Edited January 9, 2023 by Owling_Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Seen there is an hatchet job in The Daily Mail. The journalist Craig Hope is on twitter if you do a search and send him your thoughts. I think it's about time we started fighting back. Fuck em we have had 34 years of shit, I accept some of it from 1989 is well deserved, but the continued vitriol and vindictive stuff is getting on my tits. For a starter the owner of the Club today bears no responsibility, the club management are not the same people, we continue to be tarred when one other club, namely Liverpool airbrushes Heysel. Let's no longer sit back and take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just been reading the report from the Mail, and it’s annoying. I ain’t sharing it. Frustrating as hell. I mean, fancy stewards checking tickets, how dare they. As for one of their fans saying ‘ in league one so many fans won’t be a problem.’ There’s been more fans than that in the Lepp with no issues. But no, the mail wont mention or put an additional line in about there being around 1,200 or so seats spare in that end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Just been reading the report from the Mail, and it’s annoying. I ain’t sharing it. Frustrating as hell. I mean, fancy stewards checking tickets, how dare they. As for one of their fans saying ‘ in league one so many fans won’t be a problem.’ There’s been more fans than that in the Lepp with no issues. But no, the mail wont mention or put an additional line in about there being around 1,200 or so seats spare in that end. The fact there is less space behind the stands is due to there being more space out front to prevent congestion there Perhaps we can ask God to divert the River Don so there is a bit more space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bellsview said: End of the day we all have to avoid the ‘elephant in the room’ don’t we? We all know what made a massive contribution to events that unfolded that day, but of course we’re not allowed to mention that are we? Fuck ‘em! I might have a wander over to Twitter to find this Craig Hope clown! Seems there's a few that have found him...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Another one wades in without getting facts….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 55 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Seems there's a few that have found him...... Good, fuck with us and from now any journalist shit stirring don't be surprised if you get grief Just working on my photo shop of Kelly Coates with a goat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Another one wades in without getting facts….. Thing is if you dip into the Newcastle forums there is still sod all being said - beyond criticising their fringe players. They have moved on to tonights game So there is no beef with the Geordie fans here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Terrifying video !! What a hatchet job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 It’s absolutely ridiculous now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Good to see Wednesday fans shouting as one to give the Daily Mail "journalist" some shit on Twitter I am sure he will think job done in terms of clicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Good to see Wednesday fans shouting as one to give the Daily Mail "journalist" some shit on Twitter I am sure he will think job done in terms of clicks Yep. It’ll keep him in a job for another week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Good to see Wednesday fans shouting as one to give the Daily Mail "journalist" some shit on Twitter I am sure he will think job done in terms of clicks **** (not you MK) Edited January 10, 2023 by Beaconowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 The thing that speaks volumes is the total lack of photo's / videos of the supposed crush or overcrowding. If this was apparent then there would be footage all over Twitter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 The Sports Ground Safety Authority to begin a review after they "were concerned about reports of overcrowding" Hope all this will galvanise our fans against the fucking tossers involved in instigating all this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Looks very crowded at St James Park tonight. Hope everyone is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 You know I’m sure I recall a time when blame was apportioned based on previous ‘form’ without proper consideration of the facts. Wait it’ll come to me….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Billysboy said: The Sports Ground Safety Authority to begin a review after they "were concerned about reports of overcrowding" Hope all this will galvanise our fans against the fucking tossers involved in instigating all this shit. The fans are already galvanised mate. Look on twitter especially, there’s plenty wanting the club to go for the jugular with lawsuits against the journalist for starting it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64228487 ‘The Newcastle United Supporters' Trust has asked anyone involved to contact them with details of their experience.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64228487 ‘The Newcastle United Supporters' Trust has asked anyone involved to contact them with details of their experience.’ I turned up 2 hours early, stayed sober, went to my seat straightaway Be as reliable as Harry's book when it comes to facts. The reality they won't address is that whilst ever football fans are not permitted to take an alcoholic drink to their seats then the vast majority of concourses will be congested. HT will always be an issue, it is everywhere if there is a full allocation. Most of us know this and avoid as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: The fans are already galvanised mate. Look on twitter especially, there’s plenty wanting the club to go for the jugular with lawsuits against the journalist for starting it! Don't do Twitter, but that's good to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I would just like to thank all the local Yorkshire journalists (and i see we have a new one for us, stating he is a Wednesdayite), RadioStations and TV Stations for their support in all this, they have really fought our side of it. Worthless tools all piss in the same pot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andyben Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I'd be talking to a form of right bastard lawyers if I was our CEO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 So, all regulations followed. More time allowed for fans to enter than usual, going beyond what the authorities deem necessary. No injuries reported or medical assistance needed in the slighted. Thats one massive F off pill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Dear Daily Mail Fuck off see you at the libel arbitration meeting Regards 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64228487 ‘The Newcastle United Supporters' Trust has asked anyone involved to contact them with details of their experience.’ For the new series of Jackanory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Just shows what fake news can do. Like andyben says sue the fucker for slander. all ticket match no fences gates open 2hrs before just bitter *****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Andyben said: I'd be talking to a form of right bastard lawyers if I was our CEO Hopefully that's what they mean with"explore all options" at the end of the statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I agree with MK, I think 99.9% of the Geordies will be oblivious to this because Im fairly sure (like our away following) they will be used to big numbers travelling to stadia like ours and others in the top divisions in England - there will always be one be11end that sees his/ her opportunity for 30secs of fame. So I might have other issues to raise with them but I dont see much on social (or elsewhere) media coming from them. Which can only mean its journos with an agenda, of which there a few (agendas). I know some on here look at away fans vlogs, some have been posted on here before. I do sometimes but didnt this week, been too busy, but it would be interesting to see if ANY of them mention crowding. Btw when does being crammed and crowding become a crush? Im glad the club have made a statement and IF there is evidence of slander etc I hope DC / the club gives them something legal to chew on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Let's be honest there have been worse scenes of congestion outside (Aldi?) for this glorified watter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Ian Herbert from the Mail still having a go. He is on Twitter if you want to exchange a few pleasantries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Wow. I’ve just seen his tweet. His article he’s linked to says there was a crush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Tbf he would probably win another award from the Press Gazette such is the poor standards of that "profession" Sadly they are little more than the voices of their owners and exist to generate clickbait in the main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 This article has really irked me. And these bits in particular… A female fan who attended the game with her 15-year-old son told The Times that two stewards at the front of the area that became most overcrowded, at the front of the Leppings Lane end, did nothing to direct fans away from the area towards their seats. The NUST has also received complaints about overcrowding in the upper concourse of the Leppings Lane end at half-time during Saturday’s third-round tie. So, the fan with her son doesn’t have the ability to MOVE of their own free will to their seats and find them? and. Overcrowding in the upper concourse. ITS DEEMED AS ADEQUATE BY THE SGSA for the number of people in the stand. As Wednesday’s statement says, no rules, regs etc we’re broken. I’d like to know…. Is anything being done about the sizeable numbers of pissed up Geordies carrying alcohol from ame onto their buses before and after the game? That’s ok though isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: This article has really irked me. And these bits in particular… A female fan who attended the game with her 15-year-old son told The Times that two stewards at the front of the area that became most overcrowded, at the front of the Leppings Lane end, did nothing to direct fans away from the area towards their seats. The NUST has also received complaints about overcrowding in the upper concourse of the Leppings Lane end at half-time during Saturday’s third-round tie. So, the fan with her son doesn’t have the ability to MOVE of their own free will to their seats and find them? and. Overcrowding in the upper concourse. ITS DEEMED AS ADEQUATE BY THE SGSA for the number of people in the stand. As Wednesday’s statement says, no rules, regs etc we’re broken. I’d like to know…. Is anything being done about the sizeable numbers of pissed up Geordies carrying alcohol from ame onto their buses before and after the game? That’s ok though isn’t it? Like i said I can give an eyewitness account of the Newcastle fans opening up the luggage compartments of the coaches post match to extract the booze they had hidden away from sight. Again I am sure that happens up and down the country every weekend - so no gripe with the Newcastle fans doing it. Indeed its a very tiny minority who have raised any concerns - most probably preferred it was a bit old school But I can guarantee at Wycombe at HT on Saturday the concourse will be overcrowded - like every away game I have been to in recent times. Jeez even at MK with its wide concourses it was full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Like i said I can give an eyewitness account of the Newcastle fans opening up the luggage compartments of the coaches post match to extract the booze they had hidden away from sight. Again I am sure that happens up and down the country every weekend - so no gripe with the Newcastle fans doing it. Indeed its a very tiny minority who have raised any concerns - most probably preferred it was a bit old school But I can guarantee at Wycombe at HT on Saturday the concourse will be overcrowded - like every away game I have been to in recent times. Jeez even at MK with its wide concourses it was full You’re not wrong MK, but it just smacks so obviously now of a click bait / playing on past disaster. We all know that not one supporter should ever have to go through what those 97 did, regardless of circumstance. However, to have the club continually dragged through the mud NOW, under different ownership, different stewardship, when they HAVE followed rules and regs or in many cases exceeded the expectations put upon them, absolutely stinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: This article has really irked me. And these bits in particular… A female fan who attended the game with her 15-year-old son told The Times that two stewards at the front of the area that became most overcrowded, at the front of the Leppings Lane end, did nothing to direct fans away from the area towards their seats. The NUST has also received complaints about overcrowding in the upper concourse of the Leppings Lane end at half-time during Saturday’s third-round tie. So, the fan with her son doesn’t have the ability to MOVE of their own free will to their seats and find them? and. Overcrowding in the upper concourse. ITS DEEMED AS ADEQUATE BY THE SGSA for the number of people in the stand. As Wednesday’s statement says, no rules, regs etc we’re broken. I’d like to know…. Is anything being done about the sizeable numbers of pissed up Geordies carrying alcohol from ame onto their buses before and after the game? That’s ok though isn’t it? It's always a blame game, I didn't realise fully grown adults needed to be directed to their seats, this has been totally out of proportion its absolutely ridiculous now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I’ll say it again. There is a hidden agenda here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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