mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 As said in the commentary England would have to lose 4 Nil against the Welsh to be eliminated. Lose 3 Nil points would be equal, as would be goal difference, but goals scored is next criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mark said: As MK said had zero control of midfield. I'd have been tempted to go 3 at back. Bring Walker on in 3, push full backs on and had 3 in middle. Tell Rice, Bellingham to sit and Foden for Mount and who ever you like upfront with Kane who was totally isolated but worked socks off. Maguire man of match which against USA tells you everything The problem was too many passengers in the team. Actually can't fault the defence, agree Maguire was MoM, Shaw looked next best for me. But Bellingham, Saka, Sterling, Mount and Kane were all poor. Rice was average at best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley Owl Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Stick with back four. If walker can come in for Trippier that will give more pace and attacking from wide. Play Rice, Bellingham and Foden in middle. Kane, Saka and either Grealish or Rashford up front. More proactive straight away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Drop Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Reesh said: Bellingham to sit? Christ Yes. It's not his natural game but are you telling me he can't do it? Because he can. We needed 2 protect back 4. They were running through us. He's physically and technically up to it. What other option was there? Needs must and to just keep it tight for half an hour of vourse he could do it.Phillips not ready and Henderson ? Bellingham if need be could easily do it. He has done it for his club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 we need two to protect the back four against Wales? Evening Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Andyben said: Drop Kane. 🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Andyben said: we need two to protect the back four against Wales? Evening Gareth Er, no. Tonight we did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark said: 🤐 He's not fit and setting up in the way England did doesn't suit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Because we were being completely out done in the middle of the pitch. No point bringing on Foden if we are defending. And we had slightly more control with Henderson. It is to a degree the issue Wednesday face, there is a clamour to play the attackers but not if that midfield is being overrun Let’s agree to disagree. I can’t be arsed to reason or argue over this. it’s all so fucking negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Morley Owl said: Stick with back four. If walker can come in for Trippier that will give more pace and attacking from wide. Play Rice, Bellingham and Foden in middle. Kane, Saka and either Grealish or Rashford up front. More proactive straight away Grealish Rashford Sakha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Andyben said: He's not fit and setting up in the way England did doesn't suit him. Tbf you may have a point re injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Kane takes the week off. Foden in for Mount, Wilson for Kane, Dier for Rice, Bellingham license to roam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley Owl Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Andyben said: Grealish Rashford Sakha Wouldnt be opposed to Grealish starting. Starting to realise how good it would have been to have Toney in squad. Would allow Kane a match off to get fit he could play against Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 What’s not to like about that? would you start Grealish ahead of Sterling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Don't make the same mistakes of the past, picking the media favourites ahead of the better footballers. Bellingham reminds me a lot of Scholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley Owl Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Yeah baffling. Scholes Lampard and Gerrard so Eriksson plays by far the best best one out of position on left wings and international retirement follows. What is i5 with England managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 100% I would. @Beaconowl Edited November 25, 2022 by Andyben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Reesh said: Kane takes the week off. Foden in for Mount, Wilson for Kane, Dier for Rice, Bellingham license to roam. Always been a fan of Dier in that role, only player since Carrick to play quick forward passes when taking possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Andyben said: Always been a fan of Dier in that role, only player since Carrick to play quick forward passes when taking possession. He's a DM not a CH or RB but gets shunted about then gets stick for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M42Owl Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Chance to give Walker 45 mins. Might be needed against better teams. Back three plus wingbacks. Rice holding (or Dier, but please not Phillips) and Bellingham box-to-box. Front three of Grealish, Wilson, Foden. Drop/rest: Mount, Sterling, Saka, Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Well. It was crap wasn’t it. But. We’re still in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpworthOwl Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) You could tell when the team walked out for the second half that we just weren't in it. Whilst the Yanks were in a huddle firing each other up, we sauntered out in dribs and drabs probably talking about the next days darts matches. Southgate needs a sports psychologist to get a winning mentality drummed into them. We should be coming out for the second half in a regimented line all together, chests out, heads up fucking ROARING!! Edited November 26, 2022 by EpworthOwl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Well. It was crap wasn’t it. But. We’re still in. Is this last night or a premonition for 5pm this evening 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 The Henderson for Bellingham substitution was spineless. It was an almost like for like sub, replacing one central midfielder with a slightly more defensively minded one, when what was needed was a change of shape. That’s the problem area, or at least one of them. We have easily enough quality up front and out wide to win a World Cup, but centre mid and defence? Nah. Against Iran we won the game without really gaining control of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On yesterday’s evidence, Netherlands or Ecuador in the last 16 is a serious test, and France in the quarters, if we get there, I don’t see us getting past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Is this last night or a premonition for 5pm this evening 🤔 I’d be ok with both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 We were poor. I think Southgate is both tactically inadequate and isn’t bold. Yes we are all but through to the next stage but as others have said we will be found wanting if we draw anyone decent. Lets face it the previous competitions have shown that, Croatia and Italy aren’t even as good as other nations in this WC. Why he didn’t change anything earlier I can’t understand and why Mount stayed on and Stirling even started just beggars belief. At least the back 5 looked fairly solid despite minimal cover from midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 @Owling_Wolfv @Reesh looks lively so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheat Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) Anyone know if Matty Cash is playing in this game? The commentators haven’t mentioned it. Edited November 26, 2022 by cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Could have played for England apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 He's had a massive stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, Andyben said: @Owling_Wolfv @Reesh looks lively so far I wondered wtf you meant for a moment then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Mbappe looking like Patterson there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 So. France win… wonder if Messi can inspire his team tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 hours ago, EpworthOwl said: You could tell when the team walked out for the second half that we just weren't in it. Whilst the Yanks were in a huddle firing each other up, we sauntered out in dribs and drabs probably talking about the next days darts matches. Southgate needs a sports psychologist to get a winning mentality drummed into them. We should be coming out for the second half in a regimented line all together, chests out, heads up fucking ROARING!! If players need a sports psychologist to get themselves geared up for World Cup, then far as I'm concerned they shouldn't be playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I’ve had messi 3-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atroi Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1. I haven´t seen a single second of this tournament , a farce in itself, so far and I won´t watch it no matter which team is on. 2. The German team will lose today against Spain. I´m sure of it. The players knew beforehand that they aren´t that good to win it anyway, so why didn´t have the balls to stand up to DFB and FIFA and play with the one love band risking a yellow card for it (or whatever punishment it would have meant) , and leave Quatar with their head up instead of being ridiculed for a photo where they demonstrate against free speach. I am disappointed by them , noit how they played ( which I didn´t see) , but because of their spinelessness against a corrupt system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atroi Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 they demonstate against not being able to free speach . I´m sorry, I don´t know how to edit my post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atroi Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 oh, and it is of course speech . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 I’d just make us quick against Wales and I’d make a massive pile of changes. Pickford TAA, Stones, Maguire, Shaw Philips, Bellingham Foden, Grealish, Rashford Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Pickford , Stones, Maguire, Shaw Philips, Bellingham Foden, Grealish, Rashford TAA Wilson Corrected for you @KrolMong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, atroi said: 1. I haven´t seen a single second of this tournament , a farce in itself, so far and I won´t watch it no matter which team is on. 2. The German team will lose today against Spain. I´m sure of it. The players knew beforehand that they aren´t that good to win it anyway, so why didn´t have the balls to stand up to DFB and FIFA and play with the one love band risking a yellow card for it (or whatever punishment it would have meant) , and leave Quatar with their head up instead of being ridiculed for a photo where they demonstrate against free speach. I am disappointed by them , noit how they played ( which I didn´t see) , but because of their spinelessness against a corrupt system. Tbf the Germans have a bit of history ......... As do us British The problem with all this criticism is that the European countries are judging them by our own current standards wilfully forgetting that you don't have to go back too many decades to find homosexuality was illegal, religion had a too dominant impact on lives, that migrants came in to do the shitty jobs. Jeez we had a report only yesterday that the fire service is still racist and misogynistic. These countries are simply at a different stage of their existence. Perhaps the religious dominance in these countries will never loosen. Perhaps they look at the West and see a society that is liberal and now as arguments about whether 12 year old lads can have gender transition treatment and think fuck having that shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 *digs Sombrero out of loft and munches on a donkey sausage for brekkie* Any footy on today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, atroi said: 1. I haven´t seen a single second of this tournament , a farce in itself, so far and I won´t watch it no matter which team is on. 2. The German team will lose today against Spain. I´m sure of it. The players knew beforehand that they aren´t that good to win it anyway, so why didn´t have the balls to stand up to DFB and FIFA and play with the one love band risking a yellow card for it (or whatever punishment it would have meant) , and leave Quatar with their head up instead of being ridiculed for a photo where they demonstrate against free speach. I am disappointed by them , noit how they played ( which I didn´t see) , but because of their spinelessness against a corrupt system. Welcome back Atroi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Andyben said: Pickford , Stones, Maguire, Shaw Philips, Bellingham Foden, Grealish, Rashford TAA Wilson Corrected for you @KrolMong I like it. In the olden days, that means TAA is playing as an outside right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 I can't decide whether to watch football or watch football today. I might try and combine both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Germany - Spain any good? Not seen any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollongong Owl Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Germany - Spain any good? Not seen any of it. Spain's winning 6-0 yer missing a cracker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 I had seen the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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