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2 hours ago, M42Owl said:


But on the other hand…

…how often have we said “we’re not a selling club”, “you don’t get promotion by getting rid of your best players”?
 

No doubt that our transfer policy (if we’ve ever had one) has been disastrous for decades, but there’d have been uproar had we sold Lees. Just as there was regarding the possible move of Forestieri. There’s a mindset at Wednesday, amongst the fans as much as anyone inside the club, that needs to change. 

I get one you mean but wouldn’t have been at uproar from me about Forestieri ( and I proper loved him) or lees. We need to start selling at a high price. Hence we’re in the mess we’ve been in in last 2 years or so ( selling Hillsboro for one) how many times ( not just under DC) have we had players been linked with clubs for big money and left for nowt? 
 

all these left for nothing or very very little when either been touted at big money or cost us big wages/money

Fletcher Forestieri Reach Hooper Rhodes just to name a few  

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Rhodes was obviously the biggest failure. 
 

Lees, aside from maybe the final season had largely been very good. It shows he’s not shit that he’s doing a good job in the Championship now.

Said it before many times, those first 2 seasons we had him, he was fantastic. And even after then for the vast majority of the time he was very reliable. 
 

He suffered without Loovens, though too

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12 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Rhodes was obviously the biggest failure. 
 

Lees, aside from maybe the final season had largely been very good. It shows he’s not shit that he’s doing a good job in the Championship now.

Said it before many times, those first 2 seasons we had him, he was fantastic. And even after then for the vast majority of the time he was very reliable. 
 

He suffered without Loovens, though too

Shame he was a fucking grass

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15 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Rhodes was obviously the biggest failure. 
 

Lees, aside from maybe the final season had largely been very good. It shows he’s not shit that he’s doing a good job in the Championship now.

Said it before many times, those first 2 seasons we had him, he was fantastic. And even after then for the vast majority of the time he was very reliable. 
 

He suffered without Loovens, though too

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1 minute ago, HappyOwl said:

Speaking to a Rotherham fan on Sunday and he said they look finished he might be right 

Mate of mine has been saying it for weeks and weeks.

Playing shit and stealing games but it can't carry on, was his expression.

They managed it again for a Pizza, but hopefully blown the league, even though they still have a game in hand.

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Can't understand why Chelsea didn't try to hold on to the ball more at 3-0 instead of continuing to attack.

 

I'm not saying they should defend for 15 minutes but their attacking error led to the Real goal. 

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5 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

Know what folk are saying about Rotherham but I wouldn't fancy them in the playoffs.

That's when their and their fans extra effort comes in and I don't want it at our expense

We’ll be 5th. So it’s fine. 🤣

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The permutations in League 1 look insane with the number of games to be played between the top 8 teams, counting in Oxford still  

Wigan will do enough to get automatic promotion.

Whilst not favourites in any way Plymouth if they got results in their last games could still have a shout 

Theoretically if we beat MK Dons and our game in hand then be only 4 points behind. Obviously would need a swing in our favour before that game 

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Just now, Skamp said:

Heads dropped all over the place didn't they?

I was astonished that the goal came from Kante just mooching about in midfield and not snapping for the ball. He left it to Loftus Cheek, who in fairness was never getting it

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I'm hoping Plymouth can win at Wycombe on Saturday a) bc it does us a favour and b) it will put Roveram under even more pressure.

 

obviously beating MK Dons would be fantastic but I feel we are at best going to get a draw. If Wycombe draw or lose Saturday would be a good outcome.

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1 hour ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

I'm hoping Plymouth can win at Wycombe on Saturday a) bc it does us a favour and b) it will put Roveram under even more pressure.

 

obviously beating MK Dons would be fantastic but I feel we are at best going to get a draw. If Wycombe draw or lose Saturday would be a good outcome.

Isn't possible for Plymouth to win at Wycombe on Saturday

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Is it too fanciful to see Rotherham lose at home to Ipswich and away to Burton, Sunderland and Gillingham?
A home game to Oxford seems their best chance of points.

I’m hoping for Rotherham to finish 7th, with Plymouth 2nd.

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That was a completely mad last 15 minutes, where it actually worked against Madrid. I think I would be annoyed if a fan of theirs, whilst they have had success as a dogs of War team, they made City look very average in that 2nd half playing football not shithousing. 

Not comparing quality wise but we have faced League 1 equivalents where you just think play football 

 

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1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

Didn’t watch City last night, but sounded proper shithouse from Atleti. Not surprising though 

The stuff at the end was wholly caused by Man City.

I'm a firm believer in that, if you're really injured, you don't / can't roll. Yes, Foden was brushed by Felipe and, yes, that probably warranted a second yellow (which he duly received). However, Foden managed to roll a couple of yards off the pitch before miraculously twisting his body round to roll back onto it. I don't blame Savic for picking him up and trying to shove him back off. I would've done the same. Cheating little bastard.

Then we have Jack Grealish, who obviously swore at Savic (why else would BT scramble his mouth in the replays?). The defender responded by pulling his hair. Quite right. Again, I would've done the same.

Then we have the creepy looking 'goalkeeper' who successfully managed to con everyone into believing he was injured. Perhaps someone came within a yard of one of his tattoos?

None of this was condemned by the pundits in the BT studio. Indeed, the racist, forgetful junkie described Foden's actions as "cute". Remind me why he's still in a job.

I enjoy shithousery. I'm all for digs in the ribs, sly kicks, etc., but I draw the line at diving, cheating and, worst of all (although thankfully it's extremely rare and didn't occur last night), spitting.

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On 12/04/2022 at 21:28, MAL said:

Mate of mine has been saying it for weeks and weeks.

Playing shit and stealing games but it can't carry on, was his expression.

They managed it again for a Pizza, but hopefully blown the league, even though they still have a game in hand.

Managed it at Hillsborough, play that game 100 times, we win 98 and they spoz a draw.

I want them ***** in the play offs, we owe them. Their cup final too so fans will be on their backs throughout

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18 minutes ago, Otto_Man said:

Managed it at Hillsborough, play that game 100 times, we win 98 and they spoz a draw.

I want them ***** in the play offs, we owe them. Their cup final too so fans will be on their backs throughout

DM needs to have an epiphany and stop tinkerin the fuck about and overthinkin things for us to finish the season in the play offs.....but if we did, I concur with you.....I'd fuckin love to get toytown and smash em!

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2 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said:

The stuff at the end was wholly caused by Man City.

I'm a firm believer in that, if you're really injured, you don't / can't roll. Yes, Foden was brushed by Felipe and, yes, that probably warranted a second yellow (which he duly received). However, Foden managed to roll a couple of yards off the pitch before miraculously twisting his body round to roll back onto it. I don't blame Savic for picking him up and trying to shove him back off. I would've done the same. Cheating little bastard.

Then we have Jack Grealish, who obviously swore at Savic (why else would BT scramble his mouth in the replays?). The defender responded by pulling his hair. Quite right. Again, I would've done the same.

Then we have the creepy looking 'goalkeeper' who successfully managed to con everyone into believing he was injured. Perhaps someone came within a yard of one of his tattoos?

None of this was condemned by the pundits in the BT studio. Indeed, the racist, forgetful junkie described Foden's actions as "cute". Remind me why he's still in a job.

I enjoy shithousery. I'm all for digs in the ribs, sly kicks, etc., but I draw the line at diving, cheating and, worst of all (although thankfully it's extremely rare and didn't occur last night), spitting.


I agree with most of what you say here, especially the bit I’ve highlighted, but there was an example earlier in the game that disproves this.

Walker went down in an innocuous challenge and managed to roll umpteen times - almost rolling off the pitch (“get up you twat. Clearly not injured”). He had treatment, went off the pitch, came back on, (“I knew it. Not injured at all”). Minutes later went down injured again, substituted, (“maybe injured after all”). Replays showed him catching his standing foot as he went to clear the ball. Injured, but capable of rolling.

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