Club statement

[HoylandOwl]

On the OS from the Chairman

[Otto_Man]

Oh FFS

[HoylandOwl]

Yep.

 

[Gamblor]

Nothing needed to be said and certainly not at that length. That could have been two sentences, but should have been none. 

[Beaconowl]

Seriously, this shit never stops, does it

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

I have just nodded off at my desk reading that. 

 

 

[Andyben]

Fucking legend DC.

Called him out on numbers. Irrefutable.

 

[Teddy Nickelarse]

5 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Fucking legend DC.

Called him out on numbers. Irrefutable.

 

He's an oddball for sure but I reckon that this version of events is pretty much true.

Some will describe it as a rant - typically in a 200 page thread somewhere slagging him of remorselessly.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

10 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Fucking legend DC.

Called him out on numbers. Irrefutable.

 

Some of it is fascinating - lets put in the caveat as per DC's statement

That he wanted £1.2m a season and be paid more than any player 

If we brought in a player on more then he would get an increase

A guaranteed 10% increase each season

A guaranteed 100% increase if we got promotion 

For someone he pondered sacking 3 times last season 

 

[80s Owl]

I started reading it a 3 o clock and I've still not finished 😂

As much as he winds me off the clock I think what he says here sounds plausible, Moore is/was in the wrong.

 

[Andyben]

11 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

Some of it is fascinating - lets put in the caveat as per DC's statement

That he wanted £1.2m a season and be paid more than any player 

If we brought in a player on more then he would get an increase

A guaranteed 10% increase each season

A guaranteed 100% increase if we got promotion 

For someone he pondered sacking 3 times last season 

 

Exactly 

[Tarquin1867]

43 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

Darren Moore, not even going to read it 

His brief might if its all round uns.

[Andyben]

Does anyone think DC gives one iota of a fuck about anything online 

[KrolMong]

To quote the numbers and detail that he has, he must have that written down, because the litigation on him to make it up would screw him.

 

[Supercockle]

Good on him for getting the truth out there. 
 

Looking forward to the anti DC mob putting their spin on it. 

[Andyben]

That statement would have been checked and double checked before publishing.

[Andyben]

tHe tRUtH iSnT iMpORtAnT...

 

If it doesn't fit my narrative....

[Reesh]

Should have said fuck all.

[Andyben]

Just now, Neville Facking Bartos said:

What does the truth do for us as a club? Nothing, all it does it drag this on and possibly at the detriment of the team 

Move on ffs 

I can't be arsed to check, but I hope you said exactly the same after the  DM interview on sky sports...

[Andyben]

2 minutes ago, Reesh said:

I Should have said fuck all.

True. 

No man who sends another pictures of his sex toys deserves to be heard in public...

[Winco]

18 minutes ago, Andyben said:

True. 

No man who sends another pictures of his sex toys deserves to be heard in public...

 But you said err … you wanted to see em?

[Winco]

Old DC must’ve been stewing on this all summer😄

fair play to him it’s his ball and he can do and say whatever he wants about it.

[KrolMong]

I think DC takes any criticism aimed at him/the club very personally, via whatever medium it is delivered in.

And whilst I don’t disagree that he shouldn’t come out swinging if Moore is not telling the truth. There are far better ways of doing this, that are timed better.

We’ve gone near enough 2 years without hearing from him, when, dare I say it, things seemed in a fairly decent place, and the club was generating positive headlines.

Now, I’m not seeing positive headlines. We’ve got an owner in a battle with a previous manager, a poor start to the season, ticket prices being complained at by our fans and away fans and supporters groups left right and center trying to oust him.

All this is simply feeding negativity.

[Beaconowl]

2 minutes ago, KrolMong said:

I think DC takes any criticism aimed at him/the club very personally, via whatever medium it is delivered in.

And whilst I don’t disagree that he shouldn’t come out swinging if Moore is not telling the truth. There are far better ways of doing this, that are timed better.

We’ve gone near enough 2 years without hearing from him, when, dare I say it, things seemed in a fairly decent place, and the club was generating positive headlines.

Now, I’m not seeing positive headlines. We’ve got an owner in a battle with a previous manager, a poor start to the season, ticket prices being complained at by our fans and away fans and supporters groups left right and center trying to oust him.

All this is simply feeding negativity.

Good post

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

DC is very much a person who does not like untruths spoken. Whether he should have done it, very much open to your own view, but I can see why he has. Some might suggest it's a cultural honour type thing, actually and something I would be with him on is if your honesty or integrity is questioned. 

A minor occurrence, but once on Stalk a poster basically insinuated that funds collected for WTID had vanished. I actually threatened to sue that site if that was not rescinded. My point being sometimes you will not let things lie - to paraphrase Vic and Bob - and perhaps not the forums but perhaps an eye to the local journalists taking the Moore story as gospel

[Tank_Owl2,0]

44 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Should have said fuck all.

Definitely this.

As much as he might be unhappy with DM, he should be thinking about how does this spat portray him and the club.

Its obvious his so called advisors either aren’t effective or he simply doesn’t have anyone that he can talk to about this crap.

He should have issued this last week if he insisted saying owt. Or wait until we’ve shown him to be right about appointing XM!

[Tank_Owl2,0]

2 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

DC is very much a person who does not like untruths spoken. Whether he should have done it, very much open to your own view, but I can see why he has. Some might suggest it's a cultural honour type thing, actually and something I would be with him on is if your honesty or integrity is questioned. 

A minor occurrence, but once on Stalk a poster basically insinuated that funds collected for WTID had vanished. I actually threatened to sue that site if that was not rescinded. My point being sometimes you will not let things lie - to paraphrase Vic and Bob - and perhaps not the forums but perhaps an eye to the local journalists taking the Moore story as gospel

I get it MK but in this situation people and the media don’t care about who is right/wrong, it’s becomes more of a focus on there is an owner bickering with the ex coach and the fans.

[Billysboy]

9 minutes ago, KrolMong said:

I think DC takes any criticism aimed at him/the club very personally, via whatever medium it is delivered in.

And whilst I don’t disagree that he shouldn’t come out swinging if Moore is not telling the truth. There are far better ways of doing this, that are timed better.

We’ve gone near enough 2 years without hearing from him, when, dare I say it, things seemed in a fairly decent place, and the club was generating positive headlines.

Now, I’m not seeing positive headlines. We’ve got an owner in a battle with a previous manager, a poor start to the season, ticket prices being complained at by our fans and away fans and supporters groups left right and center trying to oust him.

All this is simply feeding negativity.

Agree with most of that, but must be difficult when every z list local celebrity only has to spout some shit about you and its seized upon by many to beat you with. Moving on theirs only one person to blame for our fucked up preparation to the season and that's Moore.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

8 minutes ago, KrolMong said:

I think DC takes any criticism aimed at him/the club very personally, via whatever medium it is delivered in.

And whilst I don’t disagree that he shouldn’t come out swinging if Moore is not telling the truth. There are far better ways of doing this, that are timed better.

We’ve gone near enough 2 years without hearing from him, when, dare I say it, things seemed in a fairly decent place, and the club was generating positive headlines.

Now, I’m not seeing positive headlines. We’ve got an owner in a battle with a previous manager, a poor start to the season, ticket prices being complained at by our fans and away fans and supporters groups left right and center trying to oust him.

All this is simply feeding negativity.

I do find him fascinating. Over the years in my work I have happened upon some strong characters to say the least in the owner managed business sector. With some one day you think here comes a bollocking, but nice as pie. Then other times you think all is well and you end having the phone 10 foot away and your ears still bleed.

Wouldn't be dull working for him that's for sure 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

2 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

I get it MK but in this situation people and the media don’t care about who is right/wrong, it’s becomes more of a focus on there is an owner bickering with the ex coach and the fans.

I deal with a few former CEOs as clients. There is something character wise that is different, I guess that what drove them to the top in the first place 

Even after retirement and in a couple of cases now, serious health issues that fire never leaves them. One recently sacked his health insurance provider, the net result he had to fork out 180k in medical fees. He can afford it but for him the principles involved was paramount.

Another chap, a very good friend of the above, with early stage dementia is totally digging his heels on an investment matter. He cannot accept his skills are diminished and why the hell should he be forced to hand over the control of funds to "a wet behind the ears 23 year old Oxbridge graduate".

You have to understand and work with their personal traits

I am not saying DC is right here, but trying to explain where he could be coming from personality wise

 

 

[HoylandOwl]

I’d have understood the release of a statement like this in the week or two after DM left. 
But now?

There’s no point. No one, is really talking about what happened anymore. Or weren’t until this afternoon.

As Reesh said. Shouldn’t have said nowt 

[Tylluan]

2 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

Some of it is fascinating - lets put in the caveat as per DC's statement

That he wanted £1.2m a season and be paid more than any player 

If we brought in a player on more then he would get an increase

A guaranteed 10% increase each season

A guaranteed 100% increase if we got promotion 

For someone he pondered sacking 3 times last season 

 

 

1 hour ago, Andyben said:

I can't be arsed to check, but I hope you said exactly the same after the  DM interview on sky sports...

Those look like agents numbers to me. 

I remember in Moore's interview he said DC kept asking him for a number so 'they' wrote something down as a a starting point. 

Still at least we now know that when Moore left no player was on £22k a week. Wonder if that will get mentioned during the assassination on Football Heaven and Stalk. 

[Billysboy]

1 hour ago, Andyben said:

That statement would have been checked and double checked before publishing.

Even if it hadn't  Saint Darren who reneged on an agreement would have kept a dignified silence.

[Winco]

1 hour ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

DC is very much a person who does not like untruths spoken. Whether he should have done it, very much open to your own view, but I can see why he has. Some might suggest it's a cultural honour type thing, actually and something I would be with him on is if your honesty or integrity is questioned. 

A minor occurrence, but once on Stalk a poster basically insinuated that funds collected for WTID had vanished. I actually threatened to sue that site if that was not rescinded. My point being sometimes you will not let things lie - to paraphrase Vic and Bob - and perhaps not the forums but perhaps an eye to the local journalists taking the Moore story as gospel

Didn’t you buy a new car about that time?

just saying 😀

[Andyben]

35 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

I’d have understood the release of a statement like this in the week or two after DM left. 
But now?

There’s no point. No one, is really talking about what happened anymore. Or weren’t until this afternoon.

As Reesh said. Shouldn’t have said nowt 

He didn't

 

 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

14 minutes ago, Winco said:

Didn’t you buy a new car about that time?

just saying 😀

It was 100% legit obviously, I took advice from Capt Tom's daughter 

[Andyben]

16 minutes ago, Winco said:

Didn’t you buy a new car about that time?

just saying 😀

Was actually two cars welded together with Stella cans wasn't it...if its the one you sorted for him 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

2 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Was actually two cars welded together with Stella cans wasn't it...if its the one you sorted for him 

I was going to suggest I had questions over the legitimacy of the MOT. And apparently in 5 years it had only done 7500 miles

[Andyben]

One lady owner, only drove to waitrose and Mass in Sundays

Edited September 13, 2023 by Andyben

[TheExile]

It’s insightful if read from behind the sofa but wholly unnecessary and a sign he’s learnt nothing from recent press mishaps and past statements. 

Whilst he’s clearly keen for the truth or his version of it to be out there amongst the murky world of football and it’s PR BS, it’s just so misguided as whilst it doesn’t reflect DM in a good light, he’s tripped himself up with it all too. 

We are so desperate for a win the weekend now to hopefully move on from this. It’s the kind of thing that usually comes out years later but I don’t think he can wait that long 😅

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

It's almost like he is throwing the gauntlet down to the critical elements of the fan base to put up or shut up at Saturdays game.

 

[Otto_Man]

4 hours ago, KrolMong said:

To quote the numbers and detail that he has, he must have that written down, because the litigation on him to make it up would screw him.

 

I can't imagine it was written on a napkin and slid across a table KM, I presume he was asked to put together a proposal and did or at the very least someone did on his behalf...

[Kiwi Owl]

Why on earth was there a need to bring Ben Heneghan into this???

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Kiwi Owl

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

The daft thing is I don't believe DC is looking for an out route

But then sets up a scenario where the vitriol from the fan base would justify him taking that action

But then that is what they want so why would you give them that win

Again you could just say fuck this, I am pulling the funding but whilst the fans would have to endure relegation, the value of what you own plummets again

You could sell the Club and still have control of the stadium, but the Club could play temporarily elsewhere.

My overriding question is what is DC getting out of this. It seems a poisoned chalice, I can't see it gaining him status in Thailand currently, it is costing you an 8 figure sum per year, are you ever going to recover these losses. If you are fronting this then your silent investors are hardly going to be thrilled with how it's going. Is it simply he enjoys it 

[Winco]

11 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

Ha ha ha. 😀

[Winco]

12 hours ago, Andyben said:

One lady owner, only drove to waitrose and Mass in Sundays

You’ve seen my adverts for cars then! 

[EBRA]

9 hours ago, Kiwi Owl said:

Why on earth was there a need to bring Ben Heneghan into this???

 

Because DM had told porkies to the players which I suspect rankles DC.

 

[Andyben]

...particularly if he's blaming DC when it was his decision.

[Retro Owl]

Darren i always want 'Moore' 

Thai culture is all about integrity / honour, so no real surprise DC has put his version forward to try & set the record straight. 

For what it's worth i believe DC's version & as others have said virtually everything in statement said can be proved or disproved, any 'inaccuracies' will be picked up by lawyers for sure. 

It's Moore's staff who are mostly unemployed since leaving SWFC that i have sympathy with. 

Anyway sod all that now time to move on & get up that league 

UTO 

 

 

 

 

[owl71]

12 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

“And then I said…and then Darren said…”