mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 It's almost like he is throwing the gauntlet down to the critical elements of the fan base to put up or shut up at Saturdays game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, KrolMong said: To quote the numbers and detail that he has, he must have that written down, because the litigation on him to make it up would screw him. I can't imagine it was written on a napkin and slid across a table KM, I presume he was asked to put together a proposal and did or at the very least someone did on his behalf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) Why on earth was there a need to bring Ben Heneghan into this??? Edited September 13 by Kiwi Owl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The daft thing is I don't believe DC is looking for an out route But then sets up a scenario where the vitriol from the fan base would justify him taking that action But then that is what they want so why would you give them that win Again you could just say fuck this, I am pulling the funding but whilst the fans would have to endure relegation, the value of what you own plummets again You could sell the Club and still have control of the stadium, but the Club could play temporarily elsewhere. My overriding question is what is DC getting out of this. It seems a poisoned chalice, I can't see it gaining him status in Thailand currently, it is costing you an 8 figure sum per year, are you ever going to recover these losses. If you are fronting this then your silent investors are hardly going to be thrilled with how it's going. Is it simply he enjoys it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 11 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Ha ha ha. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 12 hours ago, Andyben said: One lady owner, only drove to waitrose and Mass in Sundays You’ve seen my adverts for cars then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 9 hours ago, Kiwi Owl said: Why on earth was there a need to bring Ben Heneghan into this??? Because DM had told porkies to the players which I suspect rankles DC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 ...particularly if he's blaming DC when it was his decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Owl Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Darren i always want 'Moore' Thai culture is all about integrity / honour, so no real surprise DC has put his version forward to try & set the record straight. For what it's worth i believe DC's version & as others have said virtually everything in statement said can be proved or disproved, any 'inaccuracies' will be picked up by lawyers for sure. It's Moore's staff who are mostly unemployed since leaving SWFC that i have sympathy with. Anyway sod all that now time to move on & get up that league UTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 12 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: “And then I said…and then Darren said…” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 One other consideration. Lots of fans commenting it’s boring and move on… I agree. But lots of these fans are also the ones who are majorly anti Chansiri and this disclosure doesn’t help their narrative. I’d argued in Facebook and Stalk similar assumption to that in the statement based off information from here by Tylluan of his time at Donny. Lots disagreed with that info esp the anti Chansiri mob. Turns out very close to the released statement if I do say myself. Let’s note Darren Moore sky interview occurred a few days before Cardiff away. It was at this game when the chants gained momentum. Lots of on the fence fed up fans got off the fence as result of the press coverage that week - that is fact! Am hoping some of them get back on the fence but am not stupid this will depend on results! Regards timing it is linked to Saturday and allowing us to enjoy the result at Leeds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Tbf I don't think there is deliberate malice in anything Moore has done or said with the intention of fuelling the fans against DC Certainly the media, national and local are on "his" side and that creates an anti DC stance. But for DC this is like arguing with the Mrs, you will never win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Let’s not forget that Moore still hasn’t denied he was asking for the sums DC is quoting, his “it wasn’t about the money” was very clever wording. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) Slightly off topic, but you really can't fault the job DM has done in cultivating this "nice guy" persona, because as a player he was a proper nasty bastard Edited September 14 by Otto_Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 16 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: Slightly off topic, but you really can't fault the job DM has done in cultivating this "nice guy" persona, because as a player he was a proper agricultural lower league centre half.... correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: What does the truth do for us as a club? Nothing, all it does it drag this on and possibly at the detriment of the team Move on ffs I think we were doing but DM's last statement left DC looking publicly either a liar or just completely wrong. He couldn't let that go unanswered! You've seen its result already with all the anti-DC posting on social media, including on any release by the club, whatever the subject. I too wish we could just move on but that last DM statement could not be allowed to stand, assuming as now stated it was not correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Otto_Man said: Slightly off topic, but you really can't fault the job DM has done in cultivating this "nice guy" persona, because as a player he was a proper nasty bastard I never trust anyone that has religious faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 37 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: I think we were doing but DM's last statement left DC looking publicly either a liar or just completely wrong. He couldn't let that go unanswered! You've seen its result already with all the anti-DC posting on social media, including on any release by the club, whatever the subject. I too wish we could just move on but that last DM statement could not be allowed to stand, assuming as now stated it was not correct. I mean you are damned if you do (reply) because you are continuing the argument Damned if you don't because a good chunk of the fan base consider Saint Darren was the "truthsayer" My experience tends to find the actual truth sits merrily toward the middle most occasions. So DC can;t win and there is certainly merit in saying nowt, but I don't think his character allows him to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 46 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I mean you are damned if you do (reply) because you are continuing the argument Damned if you don't because a good chunk of the fan base consider Saint Darren was the "truthsayer" My experience tends to find the actual truth sits merrily toward the middle most occasions. So DC can;t win and there is certainly merit in saying nowt, but I don't think his character allows him to do that. Where's the merit in saying nowt if it leaves the 'burning pitchfork' mob saying it must be right 'cos he's not denying it? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 It's the "Fourfacedfuckers" that get me. Saint Darren this and Saint Darren that, chancer is clueless he's sacked him for no reason, DM's the nicest man we've ever had in charge (probably up there) he wouldn't do or say anything wrong, etc. Then the best one... Carlton was right to slag chancer off, WE should be told the truth. Now his version of the story has been blown out of the water and we have been told the truth, it's... That chancer shouldn't have said anything, he's making us a laughing stock talking about it in public, he's a liar and i wouldn't believe a word he says, then the distraction again... But look at the prices, lets have another go at that because the last dig has fallen flat (I am not agreeing with it by the way, just making a point). There are some "so called fans" (not on here, i don't think) that just want to whip up a frenzy, so that they look all important and manipulating. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 12 minutes ago, MAL said: It's the "Fourfacedfuckers" that get me. Saint Darren this and Saint Darren that, chancer is clueless he's sacked him for no reason, DM's the nicest man we've ever had in charge (probably up there) he wouldn't do or say anything wrong, etc. Then the best one... Carlton was right to slag chancer off, WE should be told the truth. Now his version of the story has been blown out of the water and we have been told the truth, it's... That chancer shouldn't have said anything, he's making us a laughing stock talking about it in public, he's a liar and i wouldn't believe a word he says, then the distraction again... But look at the prices, lets have another go at that because the last dig has fallen flat (I am not agreeing with it by the way, just making a point). There are some "so called fans" (not on here, i don't think) that just want to whip up a frenzy, so that they look all important and manipulating. Perfectly put pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Ideally DC would have kept quiet but with the flak he is copping from too many hypocritical gobshites it's understandable why he felt honour bound to respond. As Mal outlined above, the double standards displayed and the frenzy being whipped up on other platforms is nauseating. The most ardent by the way are openly saying that they've not been down to Hillsborough for years and won't be there on Saturday to join in the protest that they are urging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Owl Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 To many of our fans just seem to revel in shit flinging. Half of them that have converted to 'Saint Darren' since his departure wanted him sacked last year & gave Chansiri grief for not been strong enough to sacking him. Best quote i saw was that DM should of been sacked after losing semi 4-0 & replaced with Waddle of Wilkinson (Howard) so it would unite the fans. We really do have some special fans.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just to make it clear I wanted DM after the loss at forest green. he was found out big time and it showed. DC might be out there with his ways but he still puts his money where his mouth is. rant over move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 26 minutes ago, Retro Owl said: To many of our fans just seem to revel in shit flinging. Half of them that have converted to 'Saint Darren' since his departure wanted him sacked last year & gave Chansiri grief for not been strong enough to sacking him. Best quote i saw was that DM should of been sacked after losing semi 4-0 & replaced with Waddle of Wilkinson (Howard) so it would unite the fans. We really do have some special fans.... We really do have some special needs fans.... There you go mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Where's the merit in saying nowt if it leaves the 'burning pitchfork' mob saying it must be right 'cos he's not denying it? Not disagreeing with that. Tbh in my modest life I wouldn't stay quiet either if that was the perception of others. It's strange, people want to know, want transparency then when they get it they then say why was it uttered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Only if it doesnt fit the narrative. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmesfield_owl Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 DC is spot on, call Moore for his bullshit, and he's not worth anywhere near the figures mentioned 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 This story isn’t important. For me it’s about the mismanagement of the club and even when taking this story out of the equation I still arrive at the conclusion that it’s a clusterfuck #chansiriout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmesfield_owl Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: This story isn’t important. For me it’s about the mismanagement of the club and even when taking this story out of the equation I still arrive at the conclusion that it’s a clusterfuck #chansiriout We'll put your 8-10 million a year in to prop us up and fill your boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 20 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said: We'll put your 8-10 million a year in to prop us up and fill your boots Lazy shit argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, Skamp said: That’d be a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 45 minutes ago, Skamp said: Who the fook are they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 48 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Who the fook are they? It’s a Facebook group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 45 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: It’s a Facebook group Think of all the bad fans groups you can and this one tops the lot, it makes 'stalk look sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: This story isn’t important. For me it’s about the mismanagement of the club and even when taking this story out of the equation I still arrive at the conclusion that it’s a clusterfuck #chansiriout But it is important... It wasn't, until CarltonKnowNowt stuck his oar in, made it all public and started this shitshow... Then that made it important to DC, you know, the person that everybody keeps having a go at because he is a Thai and so stubborn or not willing to lose face, well you know the rest... I do not know "ANYBODY" that would have left it alone, let alone a person that has been called stubborn. Keep poking an animal and it will bite/sting back. They cannot stop having a go at how bad his English is, then call out anybody else as racist FFS. Everybody agrees he has made mistakes, lots of mistakes, lots of big mistakes... But FFS, if these so called fans put as much passion into supporting the team as they do having a pop at every little thing, it might be worth reading from them. Gone on a tangent at the end, but can't be arsed, had a drink don't give one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 9 minutes ago, 80s Owl said: Think of all the bad fans groups you can and this one tops the lot, it makes 'stalk look sane. Au Contraire my friend 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 hours ago, Skamp said: They are a right bunch of wrong uns. That Dato Khan is on a different level of special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Lazy shit argumentative fucker Yes...yes you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 26 minutes ago, MAL said: But it is important... It wasn't, until CarltonKnowNowt stuck his oar in, made it all public and started this shitshow... Then that made it important to DC, you know, the person that everybody keeps having a go at because he is a Thai and so stubborn or not willing to lose face, well you know the rest... I do not know "ANYBODY" that would have left it alone, let alone a person that has been called stubborn. Keep poking an animal and it will bite/sting back. They cannot stop having a go at how bad his English is, then call out anybody else as racist FFS. Everybody agrees he has made mistakes, lots of mistakes, lots of big mistakes... But FFS, if these so called fans put as much passion into supporting the team as they do having a pop at every little thing, it might be worth reading from them. Gone on a tangent at the end, but can't be arsed, had a drink don't give one. Some fair points, I just think in the whole he could have handled it better 3 minutes ago, Reesh said: Yes...yes you are. Ha, just an opinion on a forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Some fair points, I just think in the whole he could have handled it better Right, yes he could, but... I am going to say... Neville Facking Bartos owns a company, this company that Neville Facking Bartos owns is being absolutely hammered by a former employee and the journalists (for want of a better word) for absolutely everything (Agreed that some of it is warranted). A) Would Neville Facking Bartos keep quiet. Or would... B) Neville Facking Bartos, Sing like a canary to bring the ex employee and the journalists (loosely termed) to task and tell it like it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 ‘NFB aims fire at …. ‘ 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 NFB would put a very basic yet concise statement out stating that those claims are disputed, no further public comments would be made but he's happy to have private discussions with interested parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Just now, Neville Facking Bartos said: NFB would put a very basic yet concise statement out stating that those claims are disputed, no further public comments would be made but he's happy to have private discussions with interested parties ..as MPB discovered 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: NFB would put a very basic yet concise statement out stating that those claims are disputed, no further public comments would be made but he's happy to have private discussions with interested parties If you can honestly mean that, then you are a much calmer person than me, and obviously DC. I would have gone all in, gung ho, immediately after reading that someone had wrote lies, i would have made sure everybody knew that they were telling lies. I would also make it known that reporters/journalists (again loosely termed) were complicit in their quest to tell these total lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 On a side note... I cannot understand why Mr knownowtliar that is Carlton Palmer, gets away scot-free. He should have been slaughtered on social media. Nobody should believe a word he says any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 36 minutes ago, MAL said: On a side note... I cannot understand why Mr knownowtliar that is Carlton Palmer, gets away scot-free. He should have been slaughtered on social media. Nobody should believe a word he says any more. I can't read owt he posts, he reminds me of Bartos! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 38 minutes ago, MAL said: On a side note... I cannot understand why Mr knownowtliar that is Carlton Palmer, gets away scot-free. He should have been slaughtered on social media. Nobody should believe a word he says any more. Legend status innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 7 minutes ago, Reesh said: I can't read owt he posts, he reminds me of Bartos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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