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7 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said:

What if their strengths need us to play different ways? 

Don't really need to. Wilks also had 9 assists and his created chances (resulting in an attempt on goal) percentage was 78%. 

Both would be accommodated by 4-2-3-1 (the way Warne set Rotherham up for most of the second half of last season) where Windass or Bannan could play in the centre of the 3. Or 4-2-2-2 where the middle two go wide and Gregory and Smith can both play up top. Means no room for Bannan though as the two defensive mids would have to be solid workhorses.

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23 hours ago, Andyben said:

 

Smith and Wilkes scored 43 goals between them the last time they each played a full season in this division.

 

 

 

We don't need a new striker, we need to play to their strengths 

 

 

 

Only just seen this and I couldn't agree more. I've said as much on another thread. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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'A bit sad'

That's the reaction from a 'fan pundit' on Football League World on the potential of Paterson moving on. 

As I've said before, his endeavour and effort are certainly endearing. But.... A bit sad if he goes. Really????? It'll be the right move for all parties IMO.

He'd go to a club who wants him, he will go with a thank you for your sterling effort from us, and we all move on. 

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3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

Could he be any good though Ty?

 

Heckinbottom and Geary both don't want him at the club but there'll be at least a 20% sell on clause added to any move. 

He was training with the first team back in April and the thinking is that's where his delusions of grandeur started. Slapped a transfer request in when he wasn't given a squad number but got shipped out to Scarborough and lasted 4 games before they kicked him back. 

He's one of those players that can look amazing at his age level and maybe he wasn't cut out for the slightly more agricultural National North. He does have a trick or two and his preferred role is as a deep lying 10. Scarborough stuck him wide. If he was at a bigger club then maybe more people would have noticed him but he's equally as likely to have big things said about him then drop off the face of the earth when his academy days are over. 

I'd take him if we had a proper B team set up rather than the 21s. That way we could have seen how he'd adapt to playing against older players without taking a gamble on a first team shirt. If he comes and we stick him in the 21s then we'll probably have the same problem as them down the road. 

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Still not convinced that as a striker, we have someone who actively keeps trying to go in behind. Windass and Wilks want it to feet, Smith is a target man, Gregory will go in behind but he’s missed a few.

If Paterson is going, I’d rather us go and get someone who wants to chase and go over the top to turn people around. We have too many players who want it into feet as forwards. I think that resolves our midfield issues as it puts less reliance on them having to open someone up with magic, which is largely what Bannan and DB have to do.

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8 minutes ago, KrolMong said:

Still not convinced that as a striker, we have someone who actively keeps trying to go in behind. Windass and Wilks want it to feet, Smith is a target man, Gregory will go in behind but he’s missed a few.

If Paterson is going, I’d rather us go and get someone who wants to chase and go over the top to turn people around. We have too many players who want it into feet as forwards. I think that resolves our midfield issues as it puts less reliance on them having to open someone up with magic, which is largely what Bannan and DB have to do.

Tend 2 agree with this. At times I've been bit critical of Windass as I think he is much better than this standard and he hasn't always shown thst 4 me. Although that's not entirely down 2 him.

He has pace,he showed that under Pulis where he played as a lone striker and did well tbf but I wouldn't class him as out and out striker.

 

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If we play with balls over the top to chase and get in behind them we'd have to change our style of play. At the moment the amount of sideways possession we do allows teams to set up which is why we have to play to feet and look to go beyond or go wide and fling it in

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5 hours ago, Otto_Man said:

"Wednesday aren't expected to have a massively busy transfer window"...err we might need one. If McGuinness gets recalled that leaves us with Iorfa and Famewo at centre half, neither of whom has an injury record that inspires any confidence.

Dunno if McGuinness can be recalled….

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We had scouts at Sincil Bank for the Everton Papa John's game. 

Everyone reporting we're looking at Tom Cannon but 6' 5" centre half Reece Welch was also on the radar. Just signed a massive deal till 2026 and Everton have a lot of faith in him. 

Likes to stride out with the ball, when he can, and can pick a pass so fits Moore's criteria for a centre half.

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23 hours ago, Tylluan said:

We had scouts at Sincil Bank for the Everton Papa John's game. 

Everyone reporting we're looking at Tom Cannon but 6' 5" centre half Reece Welch was also on the radar. Just signed a massive deal till 2026 and Everton have a lot of faith in him. 

Likes to stride out with the ball, when he can, and can pick a pass so fits Moore's criteria for a centre half.

Can Cannon play Ball?   👀

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4 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

Tyrese Owen of Kingstonians is someone we're apparently keeping tabs on.

Never heard of him. But, unearthing a gem would be nice wouldn't it?

6' 5" right back currently playing as a centre mid. Looks like a cross between FDB and Kyle Hudlin when he's running with the ball and a lot of players bounce off him but it's tier 7 football. 

He had a trial at Derby last January that came to nothing and a mate at Huddersfield said he looked like a pub footballer that had won a trial when he was there before Christmas. He played midfield and was robbed too easily in possession and had trouble with the pace of the game. Got a shot on him though. 

His preferred position is right back but I've no idea how he'd be there. All his recent stats are from midfield. He's 23 though so we couldn't stick on an u21 contract to see if he works out. 

Huddersfield stuck Hudlin in their B team, on a B team contract, and sent him out on loan to Wimbledon. He's not having a great time there but it's cost Hudders almost jack all to find out

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3 hours ago, Tylluan said:

6' 5" right back currently playing as a centre mid. Looks like a cross between FDB and Kyle Hudlin when he's running with the ball and a lot of players bounce off him but it's tier 7 football. 

He had a trial at Derby last January that came to nothing and a mate at Huddersfield said he looked like a pub footballer that had won a trial when he was there before Christmas. He played midfield and was robbed too easily in possession and had trouble with the pace of the game. Got a shot on him though. 

His preferred position is right back but I've no idea how he'd be there. All his recent stats are from midfield. He's 23 though so we couldn't stick on an u21 contract to see if he works out. 

Huddersfield stuck Hudlin in their B team, on a B team contract, and sent him out on loan to Wimbledon. He's not having a great time there but it's cost Hudders almost jack all to find out

So we avoided a costly expense with Hudlin then as we don’t have the same possibility with the B team thing!

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2 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

So we avoided a costly expense with Hudlin then as we don’t have the same possibility with the B team thing!

That's the beauty of B teams over u21s with overage players. The over 30s playing u21s, like Huddleston, are coaches with player registration retained. The u21s with 23-25 year olds playing tend to be on extended contracts, a bit like George Hirst would be if he wasn't on loan. 

B teams are run as a separate entity so with its own contract budget. Hudlin thought he'd signed for Huddersfield, not Huddersfield B. 

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