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Just now, HoylandOwl said:

These officials are wank.

From the Saka foul, the non penalty and even then right at the end of the half when Bellingham wins the ball, there’s no foul or head injury but they stop play because Hernandez shit his nappy.

 

I've already resigned myself to France going through due to the officials, how on earth VAR haven't stepped in on 2 vital occasions I'll never know.

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Just now, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

Come on if either decision had gone against England we would have been fuming. There were other challenges in that first half that were worse fouls and not given. The penalty shout - would have been soft 

France playing in 2nd gear really 

Don’t agree MK. 
Blatant foul on Saka prior to the Frog goal

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5 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

Come on if either decision had gone against England we would have been fuming. There were other challenges in that first half that were worse fouls and not given. The penalty shout - would have been soft 

France playing in 2nd gear really 

It's a foul Kev, soft maybe but it is contact in the box.

Saying that, Cautious Gareth strikes again 

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If that's France playing in 2nd gear, I'd hate to face them full on. No wonder they're the best team in the world. A sign of a class team playing average and winning with one moment of quality and a stroke of luck. 

A little unlucky there. This loss isn't as hard to accept as the previous 2 losses in the final and semi final. Just not quite good enough 

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Tbf Southgate did not bottle the game, but I think we need a more progressive manager to take this group forward to the next level. Though there is no one out there ( who is English) who could do that

Bit like Wednesday getting back to the Premier League,  England winning summat, is something I have resigned myself its not gonna happen innit

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4 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

Tbf Southgate did not bottle the game, but I think we need a more progressive manager to take this group forward to the next level. Though there is no one out there ( who is English) who could do that

Bit like Wednesday getting back to the Premier League,  England winning summat, is something I have resigned myself its not gonna happen innit

Honestly. What do you mean by progressively? 

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2 minutes ago, Andyben said:

No, we're actually not @mkowlthesexynewversion.

We're a far better team than that 

Don't think there is a stand out team at present, so top 8 team could have won it.

Maguire and Stones have not let us down, but that needs to be stronger. Again Henderson can't be faulted this time but an area we can be better in. 

And Kane, is he the centre forward to take us on. Been average at best this tournament.

So the base of a really good side is there but it needs refining 

 

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3 minutes ago, EpworthOwl said:

What's yer nationality Kev?

We were done by officialdom. That first pen if it was Mbappe or Messi its nailed on!

Fookin pathetic reffing as was last night. But that's what exclusively gives you.

English without the 3 Lions blurring my vision. Are you missing the push by Shaw on their player. We got 2 pens, if the 2nd had not been given then you may have had a point.

But let's stop being martyrs. We lost because of 2 moments of real quality and Kane out thinking himself.

So yes I am gutted but we lost a close game of football, there is no conspiracy stop trying to find one 

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Absolutely gutted. 
While we got two pens it should have been three. The ref was absolutely shite all the way through, how he needed VAR for the one Kane missed I’ll never know. 
France did what they had to, took the chance when it came. But my god we deserved more than what we got there. 
A proper performance in the second half, we didn’t go out meekly. We went out giving it a right go.

As already said, Southgate didn’t bottle it and we went into the tournament as likely as Qatar to win it after the performances going in. 
Anyone but France to win it now for me. The smug, snidey pricks. 

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5 minutes ago, EpworthOwl said:

Honestly. What do you mean by progressively? 

Someone more tactically refined than Southgate when it comes to playing the top countries.

Much better approach than when we played Italy in the Euro finals for sure, but in the same way Moore won't get us automatic promotion, Southgate won't win us a tournament 

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1 minute ago, HoylandOwl said:

Absolutely gutted. 
While we got two pens it should have been three. The ref was absolutely shite all the way through, how he needed VAR for the one Kane missed I’ll never know. 
France did what they had to, took the chance when it came. But my god we deserved more than what we got there. 
A proper performance in the second half, we didn’t go out meekly. We went out giving it a right go.

As already said, Southgate didn’t bottle it and we went into the tournament as likely as Qatar to win it after the performances going in. 
Anyone but France to win it now for me. The smug, snidey pricks. 

Take re-assurance we would have lost to Morocco.

Then that would have been really gutting 

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7 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Absolutely gutted. 
While we got two pens it should have been three. The ref was absolutely shite all the way through, how he needed VAR for the one Kane missed I’ll never know. 
France did what they had to, took the chance when it came. But my god we deserved more than what we got there. 
A proper performance in the second half, we didn’t go out meekly. We went out giving it a right go.

As already said, Southgate didn’t bottle it and we went into the tournament as likely as Qatar to win it after the performances going in. 
Anyone but France to win it now for me. The smug, snidey pricks. 

Southgate bottled it by playing Henderson earlier in the tournament and sticking with him, massive weak link tonight.

He bottled it by sticking with Kane when he's just not got that turn of pace to be a top forward and should have played Rashford who could have stretched opposition defences all over the park.

That's three proper tournaments we've lost due to him

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4 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Southgate bottled it by playing Henderson earlier in the tournament and sticking with him, massive weak link tonight.

He bottled it by sticking with Kane when he's just not got that turn of pace to be a top forward and should have played Rashford who could have stretched opposition defences all over the park.

That's three proper tournaments we've lost due to him

Nonsense to suggest he, or anyone, bottled it tonight

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Just now, Andyben said:

Southgate bottled it by playing Henderson earlier in the tournament and sticking with him, massive weak link tonight.

He bottled it by sticking with Kane when he's just not got that turn of pace to be a top forward and should have played Rashford who could have stretched opposition defences all over the park.

That's three proper tournaments we've lost due to him

We have not had a better chance that's for sure and be interesting if Kane gradually drops down the  pecking order.

I think England need 2 or 3 players to play more regularly in foreign leagues, helped Bellingham develop and I just think more akin to international football

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2 minutes ago, Mark said:

We wouldn't. 

That's why we're really gutted. 

We will never know, but there would certainly be nothing more England than beating France and then losing to Morocco.

Not convinced the French will find it at all easy against them 

But tbh England got as far as I expected, so not gutted as we lost to the World champions in a 50 50 game, we played well and  Kane crumbled under pressure at the wrong time. I guess social media is hammering him for missing

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