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I'll simplify my previous post. Munoz might have hammered them for fitness but it was the wrong type of fitness training. That's why we started blowing after 60-70 minutes. Nothing to do with a lack of pre season as we were still unfit in September and still only playing for 70 mins.

@Tewksbury when Rohl came in I posted about the difference between Munoz training regime and Rohl's and the main difference is volume. Munoz's pre session was disrupted by the massive heatwave and Rohl's probably would have been as well. In Spain he had them training at 11pm to try and beat the heat. Other teams changed their plans and went to Scandinavia and the Alps instead. But when the squad got back he'd decided to copy the zonal system he'd used at Watford. The physical training for zonal is completely different to the constant press with overlaps and quick beaks. It's akin to the difference between training for the 400m and 1500m. Zonal should be 10-15m shuttles to cover your area. Problem was the players were being overrun and having to cover more ground. That's why we were blowing out of our arses after 70mins and why Rohl had to rotate a bit while he got everyone up to the right levels. In all his early press conferences all he talks about is levels of fitness. When he got his hands on the data he must have cried. I would have done. If Rohl had arrived in early July then basic fitness training would have been different. Recruitment would have been different. It might not have seen much of a change in results in August but September would probably have been a lot different. There's no doubt we would have been fitter and wouldn't have faded in games.

Sports Interactive and EA put more analysis into their games than some clubs do. Their respective budgets are enormous and they don't just run algorithms they actually send 'scouts' out, especially in South America.

The PL has done everything it can to give them a fighting chance. They're one point off safety and if they can't make that up then they deserve to go down. Their last 3 games are Pigs away, Chelsea home, Burnley away.

Stoke have enquired as to Warnock's availability and if he fancies stepping in til the end of the season. Birmingham are desperate for Mowbray to be back in the dug out after Easter

Mr Dennett is from Lincoln and, curiously enough, lists himself as 'Midfielder at Sheffield Wednesday FC' on his Facebook profile.

Anyone who calls himself K Dog deserves to be slapped mercilessly

He'd have given Wilder a run for his money if they'd had got promoted last season. In fact he's got the right sized chip on his shoulder complex to be a future Sty custodian

Got more chance of it being Ronald McDonald. Fans are gonna go bat shit crazy when he changes the home kit to red and yellow hoops

Seriously??? He 'dropped' the ball and walked away smiling when it was a Coventry throw. It was Bidwell taking the throw otherwise Robins would probably have played the race card again.

Technically true, m'lud. It was Moore's agent. But it would be interesting if Carlton is ever asked the question again. Him and Shez are doing 'an evening with' at Grange Golf Club, Rotherham

Mark Robins 'celebrated' their winning goal by purposefully running up to a 13 year old ball boy getting right into face with the 'who are ya' arms wide open gesture then pumped his fist at him. Why? Because he'd smiled at him as he dropped the ball when it was a Coventry throw. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26735210/coventry-mark-robins-wolves-ball-boy-fa-cup/amp/ Knowing the FA they'll probably do Wolves for failing to control the ball boy. But is this not assault on a minor? If it was in the street then plod would be getting involved.

Also the Uncanny TV and radio series

Picked up tickets for the Hacienda outdoor all dayer at Wollaton Park, Nottingham, on August bank holiday. Soul to Soul, K-Klass, Roger Sanchez, Graeme Park, Danny Tenaglia, 808 State, Ultra Nate, Smoking Jo and more to be announced.

@Tewksbury I'm like you and need something on I can half listen to. I'm currently working my way through McLevy on BBC Sounds. Brian Cox plays a police inspector in Victorian Leith. They're about 45 mins long and there's 6 series. The story lines are quirky but not particularly taxing that you need to stop and listen The infinite monkey cage and you're dead to me are also decent

Still only one game off 18th

Just got to stay in the game until half time but you're right about getting Pol on

Never been out of fashion where you live, has it?

We just have to keep in the game. When Rotherham came out in the 2nd half and had a proper go their crowd got a bit anxious and it affected the players.

Knew a lad in his 20s who regularly used to get in on a kids season ticket. Only stood around 5'7" 5'8" mind

Probably the only time I'm going to agree with @Jake but 1867 don't have to find a buyer to be legit. In all honesty they probably don't have the contacts or wherewithal to start looking. But, I'll venture some on here do. What 1867 need to do is stop throwing generalisations out as facts. If you're going after Chansiri over the ground sale then do the proper due diligence. A good start would be to properly read and understand @mkowl post cos that lad knows what he's talking about. The other 6 or 7 money men on this site will also back that up. Understand why it's not the mess others, less qualified, portray it to be but if you're still unhappy then use the facts to establish the cause. 1867 need to stop comparing us to other clubs. Every club's ownership model and financial running is unique to them. We're not Birmingham, Luton, Swansea, and whoever else. Complaints over ground improvements need to be verified and ratified by going over the accounts rather than just spouting DC has spent fuck all or not enough and nothing has changed. @Andyben didn't pluck those costings out of thin air. They're all over Forest's application plan. Then if you still think DC should be footing a £100m bill then state why, factually, but also state that this might come at the expense of a reduced player budget or increased ticket prices so people can make their own mind up. Like the majority on here have already said. If you want to make your collective voice have substance then you have to legitimise your narrative to increase the longevity. Just shouting Chansiri isn't fit for purpose and 'get out' might appeal to some now. But if we're sat near the top 6 this time next season and nothing has changed from Chansiri's side then will you still be handing flyers out?

How do you know that's the plan? A look at the accounts over the last ten years will show you how much has been spent on the infrastructure in comparison to the playing staff.

Forest are also costing a new stadium on the now abandoned HS2 hub at Toton as they're in dispute with the council over ground rent. They're budgeting £150m as they'd be picking up the site for about ten bob.

No mate. I was just calling you out on you writing something without looking into it. A bit like @Andyben still waiting for you to post a link to a balanced debate on Owlstalk The club publish the time of the next meeting on the official website and have to give 3 weeks notice. The next one will probably be at the end of the season. How to get involved is posted on there but usually it's an email into the club, but individual invites are pulled out of a hat, so to speak. If you're serious then the best way is actually to formalise a membership for 1867. That way you'll also know the number of people you've solidly got behind you. Join the FSA, clubs can have multiple fan group affiliation, and you're guaranteed a place at the table. One thing though. The Trust went in all guns blazing and the rest of the supporters groups kicked them out. On why the general forums ended. Simple answer is they became too hard to control from a security and safety aspect. On one occasion a couple of known pigs managed to get and stir the pot. It got a bit fractious when they got spotted. After the last one several 'fans' surrounded Chansiri's car and there was some pushing and shoving involved as he tried to get in. At that point he'd had enough of being shouted at and jostled. They also became boring and repetitive with the same morons asking the same questions and some pockets of fans turned on themselves. The last but one closed around 2am and the last one had a cut off of midnight. I went to the last two and on both occasions the same player recruitment question was asked about 20 times. This wasn't the club not giving reasonable answers. This was all the idiots having their 5 mins of fame amongst their mates standing up and pointing fingers at the top table. Then going on twitter to tell the world that "they'd told that Chansiri to spend more money" One more piece of homework. Google Katrien Meire's involvement in the club. You might find it wasn't Chansiri that stuck the sale in the wrong accounting year.