BraddersTim Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 38 minutes ago, KrolMong said: It depends on how negative the opposition is. The better the team, the more freedom our top players will get. Our only true passer in the last third is Kane. Even the likes of Bellingham and Foden are better known for their ball carrying abilities. If you break down the four midfield players. Rice and Gallagher are high energy. Mainoo and Wharton are continuity players. TAA is the only one with range in his passing. Against shit teams that range makes a difference. But against good teams, he will be taken apart defensively both as a right back and as a central midfield player. Once Wharton gets in that team, I don't think he'll be out again. He's the player that can link it all together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Euros but not footy related... Five Scottish fans in an accident in Germany, driving on the wrong side of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 So. Who are we supporting tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Skamp said: So. Who are we supporting tonight? Isis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 27 minutes ago, Skamp said: So. Who are we supporting tonight? That's like asking which STD I prefer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tylluan Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 All the official fan zones stopped admitting at 3pm due to overcrowding. Local police were just telling the Jocks who couldn't get in to go "find somewhere else". The fact that many bars ran out of beer when they first invaded means the locals seriously underestimated the numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 A very open start to this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: A very open start to this game Yeah 1-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheat Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Keeper should have done better there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, cheat said: Keeper should have done better there. Have a word with yourself. He’s Scottish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 And so it begins 2-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 That’s a bloody lovely goal. This could be a right smashing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 # yes sir, I can boogie # Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Hope they left the engine running on the plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 7 minutes ago, Skamp said: Have a word with yourself. He’s Scottish English...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 oh dear, this could turn into a real embarrassment for the Jocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 9 minutes ago, Skamp said: Have a word with yourself. He’s Scottish England Under 21 wasn’t he? Like Musiala on the other side! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 What’s that on the advertising hoardings about “ the no.1 nev maker” 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Scotland would struggle to beat Sheffield United. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 They’re going to really struggle now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 25 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: oh dear, this could turn into a real embarrassment for the Jocks Beyond just being Scottish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, bradowl said: Scotland would struggle to beat Sheffield United. 🤣 Come on mate, don’t exaggerate. As far as I can see they’ve all got two legs, and there’s no guide dogs on the pitch, so they ought to score three or four against the Blades. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Let’s hope Germany get complacent for the rest of the tournament, nah I can’t see it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 They clearly need Bannan and Palmer in midfield @Andyben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 “Oh Flower of Scotland” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 The old Boxheads have scored a couple of worldies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 The Scots are absolutely awful aren’t they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Shit. They don’t deserve that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 It’s not often that you have to say a side was lucky to only lose 5-1, but this was one of those occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Scotland were borderline embarrassing. It was Xisco like at times. They are playing wingbacks, and they were so narrow that they allowed Wirtz and Musiała absolute freedom even with a back five. What was worse was that when they got the ball, they could not complete more than three passes before they launched it to a lone striker who didn’t win one battle. It was a nailed on pen and red. And 5-1 genuinely flattered Scotland. I don’t think anyone should get carried away with Germany. They beat a very poor international side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atroi Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 this was almost too easy. I agree the Scottish team was weak. I like the Scottish fans , btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skamp Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 Today Group A Hungary v Switzerland 2pm ITV1 Group B Spain v Croatia 5pm ITV1 Italy v Albania 8pm BBC1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andyben Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 22 hours ago, KrolMong said: It depends on how negative the opposition is. The better the team, the more freedom our top players will get. Our only true passer in the last third is Kane. Even the likes of Bellingham and Foden are better known for their ball carrying abilities. If you break down the four midfield players. Rice and Gallagher are high energy. Mainoo and Wharton are continuity players. TAA is the only one with range in his passing. Against shit teams that range makes a difference. But against good teams, he will be taken apart defensively both as a right back and as a central midfield player. Out of interest, mate, looking at our matches and possible tournament progression, against what opponents do you think TAA would be an option in Midfield? Slovenia perhaps but the midfields of Denmark and Serbia would terrorise him, so why bother for just one match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, Andyben said: Out of interest, mate, looking at our matches and possible tournament progression, against what opponents do you think TAA would be an option in Midfield? Slovenia perhaps but the midfields of Denmark and Serbia would terrorise him, so why bother for just one match? **** shouldn't be in the squad never mind starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Well, I expected to lose last night. Not entirely convinced I ever thought it would be so ridiculously one sided, although my initial '2-0 defeat' estimate did start to feel somewhat iffy during the pre-match build-up. Admittedly, Scotland are a tad limited. However, this was like a re-enactment of a club like, say, Stirling Albion visiting Parkhead in a Scottish Cup tie. Complete failure to string anything together, no goal threat whatsoever and no legs to enable us to get up the pitch. Steve Clarke has done a tremendous job in recent years. Football is a results business and he / the players have delivered. With what little he has to work with, he's undoubtedly overachieved. Qualifying for both this and the previous Euros, plus the World Cup play-offs. The only home nation in the 'A' Groups of the Nations League (yes, I realise that's a quirk of the competition but it's still a fact at the moment) and we even qualified for Euro 2024 before England did. Unheard of! All that said, however, last night was a national embarrassment. Pathetic on a grand scale from start to finish. Time for a much needed, positive, response although neither Switzerland nor Hungary could exactly be described as 'easy' opponents. A couple of side notes. Firstly, sad to hear the pundits going on about 'confidence' during and after the gubbing. There's no such thing. It's all in the head. Same with 'pressure'. It's all garbage. Made-up nonsense to make themselves sound knowledgeable. I'm afraid, if players can't deliver a consistent performance, game in, game out, they're in the wrong job. Secondly, I enjoyed 'new' VAR. Very impressive. Oh, and one last thing - Ryan Porteous - good to see your tackling 'style' hasn't changed since you left Hibs. Learn to screw the nut for once in your life, ya fucking headcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 That's the thing. He shouldn't be trusted the first two matches as it will cost us points, nor in any KO rounds so what's the point of bringing someone for what SHOULD BE a dead rubber? Play he midfield you want to start in the KO rounds from day one to let them gel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, Andyben said: Out of interest, mate, looking at our matches and possible tournament progression, against what opponents do you think TAA would be an option in Midfield? Slovenia perhaps but the midfields of Denmark and Serbia would terrorise him, so why bother for just one match? He’ll go with Gallagher and Rice. He might play right back in the group stages if we play Walker at Centre Half or we play a back three and he plays at wing back. You’ll likely see him come on in midfield if the opposition sits in against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said: Well, I expected to lose last night. Not entirely convinced I ever thought it would be so ridiculously one sided, although my initial '2-0 defeat' estimate did start to feel somewhat iffy during the pre-match build-up. Admittedly, Scotland are a tad limited. However, this was like a re-enactment of a club like, say, Stirling Albion visiting Parkhead in a Scottish Cup tie. Complete failure to string anything together, no goal threat whatsoever and no legs to enable us to get up the pitch. Steve Clarke has done a tremendous job in recent years. Football is a results business and he / the players have delivered. With what little he has to work with, he's undoubtedly overachieved. Qualifying for both this and the previous Euros, plus the World Cup play-offs. The only home nation in the 'A' Groups of the Nations League (yes, I realise that's a quirk of the competition but it's still a fact at the moment) and we even qualified for Euro 2024 before England did. Unheard of! All that said, however, last night was a national embarrassment. Pathetic on a grand scale from start to finish. Time for a much needed, positive, response although neither Switzerland nor Hungary could exactly be described as 'easy' opponents. A couple of side notes. Firstly, sad to hear the pundits going on about 'confidence' during and after the gubbing. There's no such thing. It's all in the head. Same with 'pressure'. It's all garbage. Made-up nonsense to make themselves sound knowledgeable. I'm afraid, if players can't deliver a consistent performance, game in, game out, they're in the wrong job. Secondly, I enjoyed 'new' VAR. Very impressive. Oh, and one last thing - Ryan Porteous - good to see your tackling 'style' hasn't changed since you left Hibs. Learn to screw the nut for once in your life, ya fucking headcase. Of course pressure and confidence is all in the head, that’s kind of the point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 4 hours ago, Andyben said: That's the thing. He shouldn't be trusted the first two matches as it will cost us points, nor in any KO rounds so what's the point of bringing someone for what SHOULD BE a dead rubber? Play he midfield you want to start in the KO rounds from day one to let them gel As we discussed on here many times over the last few seasons re our own players/ squad, square pegs and all that. GS has had plenty of time to figure out the permutations and who is capable of playing where and who has proven themselves at club level, so there should be no need to fecking experiment at a big tournament with players out of their normal position. I’m neither a supporter or detractor of GS but if we don’t get to the final 4 of this tournament he needs to go with no ifs or buts, there are better English coaches out there compared to when he was appointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Cracking atmosphere in Berlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 The Spain v Croatia game is fucked. Michael Oliver in the middle and Stewart Attwell on VAR. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Reeet goal is that second one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 53 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: Reeet goal is that second one Fantastic goal, we should enquire to see if he's available to sign for us. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: The Spain v Croatia game is fucked. Michael Oliver in the middle and Stewart Attwell on VAR. Indeed.... Why wasn't Simon pulled up for leaving his line for the penalty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Just now, Andyben said: Indeed.... Why wasn't Simon pulled up for leaving his line for the penalty Or the colour of the card Red? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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