You gotta Röhl with it - Watford match thread.

[Reesh]

Into em Wednesday

[80s Owl]

It's not been a particularly happy hunting ground Vicarage Rd in the last few years but hoping the Rohl factor can get the "no wins" hoodoo off our backs.

[MAL]

Watched them against Boro, they were shocking.

You know the rest...

[EastCraigsOwl]

Would be nice to at least gain a first league point against a non-Yorkshire team this season.

[mkowl]

1 hour ago, 80s Owl said:

It's not been a particularly happy hunting ground Vicarage Rd in the last few years but hoping the Rohl factor can get the "no wins" hoodoo off our backs.

Nor for me - went to Watford, saw Boris Johnson campaigning, call from Mrs MK to say young un had probably bust his wrist playing football, train back, never saw the game 

[Andyben]

Sounds like a perfect day 

[Reesh]

15 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Sounds like a perfect day 

Was for us when he fucked off 😄

[Teddy Nickelarse]

Just listening to pre-Watford press conference. Who knows how successful  he will turn out to be but he doesn't  half talk some sense. Very impressive. Well worth a listen.

 

[Teddy Nickelarse]

2 additional coaches tomorrow possibly. Before talking of new coaches,  when asked, he took time to thank the existing/academy staff for their help this week. Classy

[Andyben]

I fuckin hope they've sorted the work permits before tomorrow

[Teddy Nickelarse]

DR indicated that both new men should be in by tomorrow ready to be involved at the weekend.

[Andyben]

...not the new coaches Permits

[Reesh]

Just now, Andyben said:

...not the new coaches Permits

This really pissed you off didn't it 😄

[Teddy Nickelarse]

6 minutes ago, Andyben said:

...not the new coaches Permits

Yes I know.

[Andyben]

4 minutes ago, Reesh said:

This really pissed you off didn't it 😄

fuckin joke isn't it

[M42Owl]

My first memory of watching us at Vicarage Road was when Graham Taylor was in charge. In a style similar to that which I think Xisco wanted for us, Watford ripped us apart on the counterattack. Speed down the wings with John Barnes left and ? Callaghan right with Wilf Rostrum overlapping and, I think, Blisset and Jenkins (fast, big, powerful) up front. Four nil at half time.

I remember thinking at HT, that if we get a quick goal we might still get something out of the game. And straight from the kick off, the defence opened up and Ticker Taylor ran through on goal.

He missed. The hoped for comeback petered out. FT 4-0. But I have a weird affection for the game as it was my first hearing, at a match, of “always look on the bright side of life”.

[Andyben]

27 minutes ago, Reesh said:

This really pissed you off didn't it 😄

apparently if we don't sort it before the match we're fucked

[Reesh]

15 minutes ago, M42Owl said:

My first memory of watching us at Vicarage Road was when Graham Taylor was in charge. In a style similar to that which I think Xisco wanted for us, Watford ripped us apart on the counterattack. Speed down the wings with John Barnes left and ? Callaghan right with Wilf Rostrum overlapping and, I think, Blisset and Jenkins (fast, big, powerful) up front. Four nil at half time.

I remember thinking at HT, that if we get a quick goal we might still get something out of the game. And straight from the kick off, the defence opened up and Ticker Taylor ran through on goal.

He missed. The hoped for comeback petered out. FT 4-0. But I have a weird affection for the game as it was my first hearing, at a match, of “always look on the bright side of life”.

Wilf Rostron even?

[Owling_Wolf]

1 hour ago, M42Owl said:

My first memory of watching us at Vicarage Road was when Graham Taylor was in charge. In a style similar to that which I think Xisco wanted for us, Watford ripped us apart on the counterattack. Speed down the wings with John Barnes left and ? Callaghan right with Wilf Rostrum overlapping and, I think, Blisset and Jenkins (fast, big, powerful) up front. Four nil at half time.

I remember thinking at HT, that if we get a quick goal we might still get something out of the game. And straight from the kick off, the defence opened up and Ticker Taylor ran through on goal.

He missed. The hoped for comeback petered out. FT 4-0. But I have a weird affection for the game as it was my first hearing, at a match, of “always look on the bright side of life”.

I wasn't at that but remember one of the mates saying afterwards that he tried to get out before or at half time and couldn't. He definitely wasn't happy!  

[Owling_Wolf]

1 hour ago, M42Owl said:

My first memory of watching us at Vicarage Road was when Graham Taylor was in charge. In a style similar to that which I think Xisco wanted for us, Watford ripped us apart on the counterattack. Speed down the wings with John Barnes left and ? Callaghan right with Wilf Rostrum overlapping and, I think, Blisset and Jenkins (fast, big, powerful) up front. Four nil at half time.

I remember thinking at HT, that if we get a quick goal we might still get something out of the game. And straight from the kick off, the defence opened up and Ticker Taylor ran through on goal.

He missed. The hoped for comeback petered out. FT 4-0. But I have a weird affection for the game as it was my first hearing, at a match, of “always look on the bright side of life”.

Wilf Rostrum's last stand?   😋

[Reesh]

37 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

I wasn't at that but remember one of the mates saying afterwards that he tried to get out before or at half time and couldn't. He definitely wasn't happy!  

Which one of the 7 dwarves was he?

[Reesh]

Decent piece by the Star here about Windass....

 

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/darren-to-xisco-to-danny-josh-windass-talks-managerial-changes-at-sheffield-wednesday-4378532

[mkowl]

4 hours ago, Reesh said:

Was for us when he fucked off 😄

Who needs enemies eh

[M42Owl]

3 hours ago, Reesh said:

Wilf Rostron even?

Such a long time ago, at least I didn’t mix him up with Wilf Smith. Easily done at my age.

[Reesh]

25 minutes ago, mkowl said:

Who needs enemies eh

Was a tap in pal....

[Beaconowl]

2 hours ago, Reesh said:

Decent piece by the Star here about Windass....

 

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/darren-to-xisco-to-danny-josh-windass-talks-managerial-changes-at-sheffield-wednesday-4378532

That is a good read and very encouraging 

[80s Owl]

6 hours ago, M42Owl said:

My first memory of watching us at Vicarage Road was when Graham Taylor was in charge. In a style similar to that which I think Xisco wanted for us, Watford ripped us apart on the counterattack. Speed down the wings with John Barnes left and ? Callaghan right with Wilf Rostrum overlapping and, I think, Blisset and Jenkins (fast, big, powerful) up front. Four nil at half time.

I remember thinking at HT, that if we get a quick goal we might still get something out of the game. And straight from the kick off, the defence opened up and Ticker Taylor ran through on goal.

He missed. The hoped for comeback petered out. FT 4-0. But I have a weird affection for the game as it was my first hearing, at a match, of “always look on the bright side of life”.

Nigel.

[Owling_Wolf]

23 hours ago, Reesh said:

Which one of the 7 dwarves was he?

More like an ogre that day!  

[Andyben]

Gwan den

Name the team / formation tomorrow....

[mkowl]

1 hour ago, Andyben said:

Gwan den

Name the team / formation tomorrow....

I think I will comment about 2.01 pm 

[HappyOwl]

I know their are loads of opinions on the ticket priority points system but I’m a bit pissed off that this one sold out the day before I could get tickets 

I missed hull away as I was in holiday been to cardiff Swansea and Leeds and going to Plymouth but missing out tomorrow 😡😡

Yes I probably could have bought tickets off people that were selling on but that defeats the reason for TPP

Anyway will watch from home 🙌🙌🙌 and still looking forward to it might start on the cans from 9 o clock just to make the experience of travelling 😂😂😂

UTO 

[HarrySpeakup]

Win by 2 or more goals and we are off the bottom

 

[EBRA]

8 hours ago, HappyOwl said:

I know their are loads of opinions on the ticket priority points system but I’m a bit pissed off that this one sold out the day before I could get tickets 

I missed hull away as I was in holiday been to cardiff Swansea and Leeds and going to Plymouth but missing out tomorrow 😡😡

Yes I probably could have bought tickets off people that were selling on but that defeats the reason for TPP

Anyway will watch from home 🙌🙌🙌 and still looking forward to it might start on the cans from 9 o clock just to make the experience of travelling 😂😂😂

UTO 

Tickets came available from office late last night and this morning .. 

 

[M42Owl]

9 hours ago, HappyOwl said:

I know their are loads of opinions on the ticket priority points system but I’m a bit pissed off that this one sold out the day before I could get tickets 

I missed hull away as I was in holiday been to cardiff Swansea and Leeds and going to Plymouth but missing out tomorrow 😡😡

Yes I probably could have bought tickets off people that were selling on but that defeats the reason for TPP

Anyway will watch from home 🙌🙌🙌 and still looking forward to it might start on the cans from 9 o clock just to make the experience of travelling 😂😂😂

UTO 

I’m in a similar position. Been to Cardiff, Swansea, WBA, off to Plymouth. Wondering whether I’ll get a Bristol City ticket with hotel already booked. But I’m reluctant to help someone else’s points harvesting. And the more I see posts like this, the more I think one minor tweak to the TPP process would solve the problem.

No TPPs if a game (away game) is sold out. 
Points only available for games where everyone has an equal chance of getting a ticket.

It won’t be immediate, but it’ll soon end points harvesting.

Your “reward” for buying a ticket at a sold out match: you see the match live. 
Your “reward” for buying a ticket for e.g. midweek at Plymouth: you see the match live and get 10 points.

[Andyben]

I think we should grade away matches A-G like home games.

I'm sure everyone wil be happy with that.

[KrolMong]

I want to see the makings of a plan today. A week is not a lot of time to get a full set up in place, but to see an idea of how we will set up with and without the ball will be good, even if it doesn’t take hold immediately. I’d like to see us cause some problems today for more than a 5 minute spell - which is all we managed under Xisco. Whether we have the players to capitalise on that, the jury is out on, but, to cause problems will be a good start.

Rohl talks about keeping things simple, that makes a lot of sense and I think the players will respond to that.

That was Xisco’s issue. I didn’t see any formulation of anything in any game he was in charge of.

I am going to have a wild stab at the team…

Dawson

Iorfa, Ihiekwe, Bernard, James

Buckley, Vaulks, Bannan

Musaba, Smith, Windass

 

 

[Reesh]

Dawson

Iorfa-Bernard-Ihiekwe-James

Vaulks Bannan Byers

Musaba Gregory Wilks

[NomadOwl]

Dawson

Valentin - Bernard - Ihiekwe - James

Byers - Bannan

Windass

Musaba - Smith - Gassama

[Boracic Lint]

Think he'll put out a conservative side to start with, he seems like a diplomatic fella.

Would like to see what he does with the bench though, whether he makes early subs and who he brings on.

[HoylandOwl]

[mkowl]

19 hours ago, mkowl said:

I think I will comment about 2.01 pm 

Interesting !

[HappyOwl]

Can someone settle an argument for me please is Marvyn Johnson named in the squad for selection or not?

[mkowl]

Still no natural left side defender. No Johnson in the squad so not a lot has changed

Probably the slowest midfield 3 for a number of years 

Let's see how it goes 

[Reesh]

2 minutes ago, HappyOwl said:

Can someone settle an argument for me please is Marvyn Johnson named in the squad for selection or not?

No he's not registered as it stands.

[Tylluan]

2 minutes ago, HappyOwl said:

Can someone settle an argument for me please is Marvyn Johnson named in the squad for selection or not?

Think in one of DR's interviews he said Johnson was back training with the squad and being assessed fitness wise. 

But he also said something about players aptitude on field and off field. Don't know whether that was sort of aimed at Johnson or not.

[Teddy Nickelarse]

8 minutes ago, HappyOwl said:

Can someone settle an argument for me please is Marvyn Johnson named in the squad for selection or not?

I'd heard he'd been added a couple of weeks ago but seems it was false.

Interesting selection. Not a fan of Bambo but we'll see. No Ihekwei either. Bernard been away so not surprised and anyway Famewo  more natural left sided player.

Hendrick most have shown more in training than we've  seen in matches so far. 

Edited October 21, 2023 by Teddy Nickelarse

[mkowl]

Lets be honest if Xisco had selected this team we would be tutting loudly. 

The difference will be if there is a coherent plan and tactics on the pitch

But it may be you can't polish a turd 

[NomadOwl]

Guessing that’s Pato and Valentin as wing backs, Windass and Musaba up top? 
 

Also presuming Ihiekwe has a knock, would’ve preferred him between Famewo and Iorfa. Can see why Bernard’s been rested.  
 

Looks to me like a side set up to hit on the counter, playing it on the floor.
Hendrick is odd one for me but feel like we’ve not seen the best out of any of the new lads yet. 

Anyway I know fuck all, let’s just hope for an improvement. 
 

[KrolMong]

I think it’s a 4-3-3 with Pato up top and Windass and Musaba left and right.

[Owling_Wolf]

We were in a classic Wetherspoons in St. Albans. Next door to a blue wall plaque commemorating where the Duke of Somerset was slain during the 2nd battle of St. Albans: Wars of the Roses.  Pub was like a classic Viking Hall. Great beer, btw.  Superb. 
Just watch Wednesday spoil it!