Reesh Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Into the dog bothering shitheads Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Reesh back on the match threads when we’ve more chance of winning….. 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 46 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Reesh back on the match threads when we’ve more chance of winning….. 😁 Still can't spell fred, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Head to head record v Huddersfield Town Wednesday wins 21 Huddersfield wins 25 Draws 17 Last time we played em at S6. March 17th 2021 Wednesday 1 - 1 Huddersfield Goals: Windass (36) - Paterson OG (72) Our team that day. Westwood, Palmer, Borner, Lees, Hutchinson (Urhoghide 61), Harris (Shaw 61), Pelupessy, Bannan, Reach, Windass (Kachunga 81), Rhodes (Paterson 61) Unused Subs: Wildsmith, Penney, Hunt, Marriott, Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Officials for Saturday REF: MATTHEW DONOHUE Assistants: Paul Hodskinson and Jonathan Hunt Fourth Official : Scott Oldham The last time Mr Donohue reffed us.... Our 4-2 defeat at Hull earlier this season. His last appearance in the middle at S6, was our 3-1 win early last season. This season, in 8 games, he's dished out 37 yellow cards. He's yet to show a red. In his last game, Ipswich v Hull in midweek.. He didn't show any cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Weston Park 'takeover' this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Head to head record v Huddersfield Town Wednesday wins 21 Huddersfield wins 25 Draws 17 Last time we played em at S6. March 17th 2021 Wednesday 1 - 1 Huddersfield Goals: Windass (36) - Paterson OG (72) Our team that day. Westwood, Palmer, Borner, Lees, Hutchinson (Urhoghide 61), Harris (Shaw 61), Pelupessy, Bannan, Reach, Windass (Kachunga 81), Rhodes (Paterson 61) Unused Subs: Wildsmith, Penney, Hunt, Marriott, Green I’m a little surprised we’ve played them so few times. Given they were historically a team that did reasonably well for a small town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I am guessing Moore will get a decent reception. Ironically if he had stayed Wednesday manager he might have found this was his last match and a lot of vitriol from the stands. They always say quit whilst you are ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 IF Xisco hadn't have gone, I think DM would have got a rendition of Darren Moore's barmy army... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Imo I can see us looking more organised and hopefully the players will respond to DC sacking xisco and put a shift in. 0-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Pre match interview? Sorry I mentioned in another thread but have I missed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) I need to stop drinking absolute sausage fingers Edited October 6, 2023 by HappyOwl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lee Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I maybe clutching at straws but I hope NT has had enough time to instill a change of approach. Let's not forget pro players at our level 'know their onions largely' the dressing room is key, always has been and always will be, the team ethic and message has to align between coaches etc and players, much like any other walk in life. I'm hopefully positive that NT can replicate some of what he achieved last time he was stand in. 2-0 Wednesday. UTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Don't know what to expect really. These players are not world beaters, there is an inherent limitation as I think both technically and physically they are below the average standard required in the Championship. But a bit of organisation and consistency with formation and tactics will be useful after the last 2 months. Repairing confidence levels is hard to judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 As long as NT doesn't go into a game against DM playing a pedestrian DM side playing DM tactics because it's 'tried and tested' against Accrington. DM knows the limitations of that team, he tried and failed for 2 years to mitigate them, so will know exactly what it takes to beat us. Tom Lees has already said they're going for an early goal. Just do something different, NT has had good results with the 4141 in the u21s, do that. Anything but 352 with Gregoryuas the target man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) I hear what you are saying about the limitations MK but we also saw some good performances and results with the team we had in L1 against clubs from higher leagues. People might say those teams were not at full strength but I’d argue neither were we in every case. So, maybe difficult over 46 games but with the right preparation and set up I think we can get results in this league. We all know the strikers needs help but I’d argue Smith, Gregory and Wilks can get goals, with people like Byers and Pato also capable. A 352 or 4141 could work depending on who’s fit and what NT know about how the opposition might set up. Id go with the following, in the hope we’ve been working on set plays. Vasquez Iorfa Icky Bernard (/Famewo if fit) Valentin Byers Vaulks Paterson James Smith Gregory (or maybe Wilks) Subs Delgado (bring on 2nd half if we need a goal but still not convinced on his end product), Palmer, Bakinson (I might swap him for Vaulks) Gassama, Musaba, Hendrick. Assuming BB & JW don’t make a surprise recovery. I’d have both in 11 if they do. Edited October 7, 2023 by Tank_Owl2,0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: I hear what you are saying about the limitations MK but we also saw some good performances and results with the team we had in L1 against clubs from higher leagues. People might say those teams were not at full strength but I’d argue neither were we in every case. The issue has never been ability, it's mentality. The issues this season are the ones from last. Pressure games, they fall apart. Go a goal down, they fall apart. Press and deny time on the ball, they fall apart. Lose a game, don't win for 3-4, but we haven't won one to break that cycle this season as we're playing a completely different level of opposition all of whom are a magnitude better at exploiting our weaknesses than last year and every game has more pressure than any game over the last 2 years. The one thing about all of the great results is that they were all a 'free hit'. Newcastle, Southampton, even Portsmouth in the playoffs. Nobody expected them to win, nobody thought they would. No pressure. I'd even argue that if Portsmouth had won by inly 1 or 2, we wouldn't have come nick for the second leg. Anyways, as soon as they get a win or 2, they'll be like a different team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Good luck Tommo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Boracic Lint said: The issue has never been ability, it's mentality. The issues this season are the ones from last. Pressure games, they fall apart. Go a goal down, they fall apart. Press and deny time on the ball, they fall apart. Lose a game, don't win for 3-4, but we haven't won one to break that cycle this season as we're playing a completely different level of opposition all of whom are a magnitude better at exploiting our weaknesses than last year and every game has more pressure than any game over the last 2 years. The one thing about all of the great results is that they were all a 'free hit'. Newcastle, Southampton, even Portsmouth in the playoffs. Nobody expected them to win, nobody thought they would. No pressure. I'd even argue that if Portsmouth had won by inly 1 or 2, we wouldn't have come nick for the second leg. Anyways, as soon as they get a win or 2, they'll be like a different team. Yeah I’ll never forgot that comeback from 0-4 against Portsmouth… 🤣 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, owl71 said: Yeah I’ll never forgot that comeback from 0-4 against Portsmouth… 🤣 That's the thing, it was a 'miracle'. There was absolutely no pressure for a result going into that game. It was just all out attack with no consequences. Had they gone into that game with a closer score, we would have been more cagey, more defensive to try and get back in it without going further behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: That's the thing, it was a 'miracle'. There was absolutely no pressure for a result going into that game. It was just all out attack with no consequences. Had they gone into that game with a closer score, we would have been more cagey, more defensive to try and get back in it without going further behind. Portsmouth have recovered well from that humiliation to be fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Interesting line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, mkowl said: Interesting line up Delgado and Fletcher both dumped completely. The latter for good hopefully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Definitely 3-5-2 with that line up. Interesting that Cadamarteri and Phuthi are on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 DM must be the happiest man in Sheffield after that lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Yep that shows how much Tommo rates Fletcher. Suppose that proves he doesn’t need an eye test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Moore's shit himself after the Birmingham game and set up to contain. 5 at the back, a box 4 in midfield with 2 holding and 1 up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, holmesfield_owl said: Don't see why A squad that DM built, playing a formation that DM built against DM. You don't see why DM would be happy with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 That line up really is ‘back to basics’ isn’t it? Quietly confident about today now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 A left footed player on the left side.... Praise be Neil Thompson!! Dawson replaces Vasquez - interesting, as to be fair to Vazquez he's been the shining light on an awful season to date No Delgado or Fletcher, the latter can go back to Watford, fucking awful player. COME ON WEDNESDAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Shit team Shit Manager. Shit fans. Shit hole ground. 3-0 Wenzdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Luck boy there Dawson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bellsview said: Luck boy there Dawson! How many times have we read that over the years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Tell u what that's one of the poorest halfs of football I've ever seen at this level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 The effort and application is very much there. We are winning the midfield battle. But… we are suffering from a lack of attacking quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Mark said: Tell u what that's one of the poorest halfs of football I've ever seen at this level Since the last home game I revert to my earlier comment about inherent limitations within the players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 What sort of reception did DM get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Nothing wrong with that, Dawson made a pigs ear of that punch & they score.... I'd be fuming if it was the other way round... Lucky boy Dawson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: What sort of reception did DM get? Better than @Neville Facking Bartos apparently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 A couple of points from that. We were right to sack Xisco as he's too unlucky. If we'd played these last week he'd still be manager. They were by far the worst side we've played so far. If we'd played last season's promotion side all season so far, we'd still be bottom. So pedestrian with no pace whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I'm not looking it up but is that the first time this season an opponent didn't have a shot on target? Well done D.M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: Nothing wrong with that, Dawson made a pigs ear of that punch & they score.... I'd be fuming if it was the other way round... Lucky boy Dawson. It was an arm into his face so it was a foul, but that would have been typical At least Dawson goes for crosses not like Vasquez. Battling performance at least, just a lack of quality in the final 3rd, but looked more solid in the defensive 3rd and more competitive in the midfield 3rd So stopped the rot but how we can convert this to scoring goals and winning I think is going to be a tough gig for any new manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Wednesday and Huddersfield will be 2 of the bottom 4 this season. We edged it, but have zero cutting edge and attacking quality. We looked more organized but that was as much down to Huddersfield being equally bad with the ball. I’ll say this again, we don’t have the ability in the squad to win 15 games this season. Particularly with the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 06/10/2023 at 08:05, Winco said: Imo I can see us looking more organised and hopefully the players will respond to DC sacking xisco and put a shift in. 0-0 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Was good to see some enthusiasm from players who looked devoid of it under xisco. But a combo of a lack of quality and confidence will be difficult for any manager coming in when they have such a points gap to overcome. Felt like we needed a win today and perhaps we would have if we connected with that fk early second half. We just need something like that to go for us as plenty hasn’t. Moore didn’t show us what we were missing really. He lacked any real idea as to how to beat his own team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 If we don't have anyone to come in in Monday then I'd give Thompson til January and relax a bit on the search. If he can do that inside 2-3 training sessions and have that response from the players then let's see what he can do with the International break. I'm pleased that a couple of the 21s were on the bench. They could provide a temporary edge if he has the bottle to play them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tylluan said: If we don't have anyone to come in in Monday then I'd give Thompson til January and relax a bit on the search. If he can do that inside 2-3 training sessions and have that response from the players then let's see what he can do with the International break. I'm pleased that a couple of the 21s were on the bench. They could provide a temporary edge if he has the bottle to play them Could be a Stuart Gray type if the players like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Let's be right we won't play many (any?) worse sides this season needed three points was disappointing not to get them, but we created so little. We did look a team low on confidence, the Palmer mis control was clear evidence of that. I would have hooked Paterson at half time thought he was woeful. Bernard has been the one bright spot though looks a real player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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