NomadOwl Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Darren Moore speaks on why he left Wednesday Sky got it in for us this season. My only surprise is it wasn’t released Friday night before the game. It’s getting boring now. Sooner Wednesday start winning, sooner we can move on from it. But cranks up the pressure for Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmesfield_owl Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Absolutely no interest in whatever he has to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 He's wank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 That's a PR job cos there's another role on the horizon. That's why it's all nicey nicey about the club and chairman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Some of you lot can’t see the wood for the trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 14 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Some of you lot can’t see the wood for the trees Well I can see a plank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Well I can see a plank 1 minute ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Well I can see a plank Stood in the mirror mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Well if its a media PR stunt he has not moved on with his interview technique. "at the time" was a bit too regular and when did he become a member of the Royal Family using "we" So he denies its about the money, well he would. Let's be honest the disparity was that Moore thought it would take 2 to 3 seasons to build in this division. I suspect had very different ideas on the type of player. DC clearly had other thoughts or a particular lurking influence got his way somewhat Ultimately if there was such a divergence of opinion then it was right he left the Club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Probably knew his limits and would be sacked before Christmas. Got us up, just., by the skin of our teeth from being well ahead with games in hand. Lucky not to have been sacked in March/ April. The media love a bit of stirring against us just adds to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 He denies it's about the money but he doesnt say he didnt ask for a large increase for himself and his staff as DC said. Not forgetting his staff all left with him at the same time which in my opinion points to money being the main gripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 We've heard both versions now. Great. In the past. Roll on Saturday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, Billysboy said: He denies it's about the money but he doesnt say he didnt ask for a large increase for himself and his staff as DC said. Not forgetting his staff all left with him at the same time which in my opinion points to money being the main gripe. I thought exactly the same, it's cleverly written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 As with all these things the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 The stir not applying critical thinking to interview. Bored of all the negativity at the moment we need 3 points in bag very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 "of his choise, that he felt could take the club forward." never trust a man who can't spell choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 10 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Some of you lot can’t see the wood for the trees Ooh I'll pretend to be controversial cos me and my dad don't like Chansiri..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 19 minutes ago, Reesh said: Ooh I'll pretend to be controversial cos me and my dad don't like Chansiri..... Where on earth did you get that impression from? I thought he’d been very subtle about the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 30 minutes ago, Reesh said: Ooh I'll pretend to be controversial cos me and my dad don't like Chansiri..... Actually (I always hear DC now when I say that word 😂) my post was in response to the predictable response on here which was to immediately for Moore. As for my dad he’s too ill to have much of an opinion on us nowadays. Can’t get to the games now as his Oxygen won’t last the afternoon and it’s too demanding of him. Me, I just want us to be well run, the best we can possibly be and hope that that gives us a chance of a return to the top tier before he dies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Reesh said: "of his choise, that he felt could take the club forward." never trust a man who can't spell choice There was an article in the star which said demblades "...lent money from MacQuarie Bank ". Fucking atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 8 minutes ago, Andyben said: There was an article in the star which said demblades "...lent money from MacQuarie Bank ". Fucking atrocious Meh what do you know about corporate finance Andy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 New story from stir - DC wanted to discuss with DM not agent. The chairman asked me what I was looking for from the football club,” Moore said. “And my reply was that I just wanted a contract that shows that you value me… The chairman was asking for a figure, but I said to him ‘I just know that I want to be the manager of your football club.’ He kept asking for a number... I never wanted to leave the football club, I’ve made that clear.” “The Star was told that as per conversations with the League Managers Association, Moore was among the three lowest paid managers in the Championship when he arrived at Hillsborough from Doncaster Rovers and saw his salary cut further once relegation to League One was confirmed. It’s claimed a salary of four times his previous contract was requested as a starting point of negotiations only – a figure again as per LMA indications that would still have had him amongst the lowest-paid managers in the Championship and somewhere in the region of the average second tier salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Good on DC for trying to negotiate with DM directly not the scourge of modern football an agent. Actually I think DC has a degree of cynicism towards managers, are they really any different to the groundstaff, in the ticket office etc. They would fuck off aka Bruce if a better offer turns up The moneyball theory is you focus on the players not the coaches And perhaps DC also saw what we all did, that DM was tactically distinctly average, and was outsmarted by a Ferguson twice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 How much salary increase should you give to someone you were almost certainly dismissing a month or so earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footlikeatractionengine Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Presume he means Duncan and Darren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 48 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Twice? We lost twice away to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 DM confirms that 4x salary was initial starting point... Humble Pie all round for quite a few 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 11 minutes ago, Andyben said: DM confirms that 4x salary was initial starting point... Humble Pie all round for quite a few Yes but they'll have a multitude of relentlessly argued reasons for not eating it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 46 minutes ago, Footlikeatractionengine said: Presume he means Duncan and Darren. Yep that was the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Man who got team relegated from division complains about being one of lowest paid managers in Division, then getting pay cut when relagated. Cheers Daz, off you fuck into the OT wastelands with Stafford and the others 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Did he mention the bonus he would have got for keeping us up first time round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 14 minutes ago, Andyben said: Did he mention the bonus he would have got for keeping us up first time round? That doesn’t suit the narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 ...or the guarnteed pay rise if he had kept us up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 hours ago, Footlikeatractionengine said: Presume he means Duncan and Darren. Aha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Reesh said: We lost twice away to them Yes but the first one was massively affected by James getting himself sent off in the first half. That part wasn't due to tactics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 8 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Yes but the first one was massively affected by James getting himself sent off in the first half. That part wasn't due to tactics. Taking George Byers off was a tactical masterclass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, Reesh said: Taking George Byers off was a tactical masterclass True! 🙀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 He’s gone. And has been a few months. Move on. simples 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Can only imagine DM's backroom staff are ecstatic at going a couple of Months without a wage coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 5 hours ago, EBRA said: Moore was among the three lowest paid managers in the Championship when he arrived at Hillsborough from Doncaster Rovers and saw his salary cut further once relegation to League One was confirmed. What that doesn't tell you is his 50% increase on his Donny wages when he joined us and also that he was one of the highest paid L1 managers. 5 hours ago, EBRA said: figure again as per LMA indications that would still have had him amongst the lowest-paid managers in the Championship and somewhere in the region of the average second tier salary. So what's it to be? He would either have been one of the lowest paid or in the average Championship wage band? Not aimed at you @EBRA, just more at the 'reporting' from the Stir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/exclusive-darren-moore-delivers-clarification-after-sky-interview-to-draw-line-under-sheffield-wednesday-exit-4266655 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 42 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: He’s gone. And has been a few months. Move on. simples 31 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/exclusive-darren-moore-delivers-clarification-after-sky-interview-to-draw-line-under-sheffield-wednesday-exit-4266655 make you mind up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 3 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Yes but the first one was massively affected by James getting himself sent off in the first half. That part wasn't due to tactics. McCann was the manager for that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 No wonder he took Byers off. The bastard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tylluan said: So what's it to be? He would either have been one of the lowest paid or in the average Championship wage band? I think this could be poor terminology by the Star. The mean is susceptible to being skewed by very small, or very large values. You can be amongst the lowest paid and paid the mean value for the league, if those who are paid less than you are paid much less than the rest. I don’t know how the distribution of Championship manager salaries looks though so can only speculate. It’s easier to give an example if you look at being skewed by higher salaries. Let’s say that our mean player salary is £15k p/w and Bannan is the highest paid on £30k. If we suddenly signed Erling Haaland on £400k p/w, the new mean salary could be £40k, but all other players including the former highest paid player would now be “below average”. It could just be shit reporting though. Edited August 24 by Gamblor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 40 minutes ago, Andyben said: No wonder he took Byers off. The bastard We’re lucky more didn’t go missing if there was a McCann in charge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 ...may have done if his wife was in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Fuck the ****, we all knew the reason he was told to fuck off now it’s been confirmed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 17 hours ago, Tylluan said: What that doesn't tell you is his 50% increase on his Donny wages when he joined us and also that he was one of the highest paid L1 managers. So what's it to be? He would either have been one of the lowest paid or in the average Championship wage band? Not aimed at you @EBRA, just more at the 'reporting' from the Stir. No I agree… The writing up of it only creates more issues for club at time we need to be pulling together Anti Chansiri mob are using this as proof DC lied - when their glaring spin in the write up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 DC didn’t lie, seems that wasn’t the only issue mind. Moore is replaceable, he wasn’t the messiah but everything else at the club seems a mess right now and responsibility for that is on one person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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