Plymuff's Pilgrimage to S6

[HoylandOwl]

2 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Obviously.  File under, 'It's a swizz!'   🤬

Just pause for a moment and think how we'd have been feeling now if things had gone on to end differently - if that utter disgrace had caused us to actually drop points and a place in the table. It really doesn't bear thinking about.  

As much as really, they only clipped that shot onto the roof of the net. They didn't do much more. But there's no doubt, the 'chalking off' of the goal, invigorated them as we were all over them like a rash before that.

[lyn_owl]

2 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

Keith Hackett has his say on the ‘goal’ that wasn’t.

Even if it is mentioned by the PGMOL to the ref. We won’t hear anything of it. It’ll be kept in house. 

I think SWFC should hold off with the "Instant Replay" in future, until all goals are confirmed

[HoylandOwl]

 

2 minutes ago, lyn_owl said:

I think SWFC should hold off with the "Instant Replay" in future, until all goals are confirmed

The thing is, there was no reason for it to be chalked off, for 30 seconds. Which to me, is long enough for the goal to be shown on screen. 

Also, I think the scoreboard is externally controlled. Hence the mistakes that happen from time to time.

[Beaconowl]

21 minutes ago, lyn_owl said:

I think SWFC should hold off with the "Instant Replay" in future, until all goals are confirmed

Lyn knows 👍 (unless the goal is against us that is)

[JBO]

Didn't a similar thing happen in the play off game against Brighton?

A Forestieri goal got ruled out?

I think it was the right decision in the end but talk them was it was disallowed after the officials saw the goal on the big screen 

 

 

 

 

[Kaveman]

52 minutes ago, JBO said:

Didn't a similar thing happen in the play off game against Brighton?

A Forestieri goal got ruled out?

I think it was the right decision in the end but talk them was it was disallowed after the officials saw the goal on the big screen 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, there was a through ball that brushed Hooper on the way through I think. You would think they'd learn and not put the replays on until after it has kicked off again.

[Reesh]

1 minute ago, Kaveman said:

Yeah, there was a through ball that brushed Hooper on the way through I think. You would think they'd learn and not put the replays on until after it has kicked off again.

Hardly the same. And how long do you wait, it was almost a minute.

[Kaveman]

Like I say, I'd wait until it kicks off. There's no rush for the replay, we never used to have them. If there's a chance the officials will use them against us, even though they shouldn't, then why give them the opportunity?

[Owling_Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Kaveman said:

Like I say, I'd wait until it kicks off. There's no rush for the replay, we never used to have them. If there's a chance the officials will use them against us, even though they shouldn't, then why give them the opportunity?

Absolutely!  A complete no brainer now.  

[Owling_Wolf]

1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

 

The thing is, there was no reason for it to be chalked off, for 30 seconds. Which to me, is long enough for the goal to be shown on screen. 

Also, I think the scoreboard is externally controlled. Hence the mistakes that happen from time to time.

It can't be allowed again, mate. Not unless / until there's one wrongly awarded against us!  

[Skamp]

1 hour ago, Owling_Wolf said:

It can't be allowed again, mate. Not unless / until there's one wrongly awarded against us!  

Like they'd use owt in our favour. 

[Owling_Wolf]

2 minutes ago, Skamp said:

Like they'd use owt in our favour. 

But, but... they all love us, surely?   👼

[Skamp]

Any of the Plymouth fans spoken out yet of their fearful, near death experience on Saturday? 

[Owling_Wolf]

On 04/02/2023 at 16:45, Andyben said:

Cheating **** 

Correct! 

[M42Owl]

On the disallowed goal: I was on the North, towards the kop and, although Gregory jumped to avoid the ball hitting him, it passed between him and the keeper. In no way was Gregory impeding the keeper’s view, and it’s a hard push to say he prevented a dive. A clear goal for me.

But my celebration was muted as I saw the linesman stood still. I thought that he was sure LG was beyond the last defender, but unsure whether he was interfering with play. So I think he did what he should do, and got the ref to decide. Can’t say I noticed either looking at the replay on the screen. 
 

Something else happened in the match that I don’t think hasn’t happened for some time. We scored from a throw-in. Usually, our throw-ins result in rapid loss of possession, but wow, we scored from one. When was the last time? 
 

Has there been any word on why Famewo didn’t play? He’s going to be needed until James comes back.

[Tank_Owl2,0]

Am I imagining this, but wasn’t there a ruling that the attacking team should get the benefit of the doubt when it’s marginal/ unclear, with the idea it will mean there might be more goals? I mean since the initiation of VAR that seems to have taken a knock.

Anyway, if there was ever a case, yesterday was one.

The other thing for me is the angle of the picture from cameras that provide the big screen highlights really don’t help our case because you can’t judge the perspective, ie whether Gregory is in the eyeline of their keeper, certainly compared to the video of the lad on the kop where it’s clearer that he isn’t really. The fact Gregory is in an offside position is irrelevant as has been shown time again with the new offside interpretations.

Transparency of the referee’s reviews of these kinds of decisions would at least show how things are reviewed and what can be learnt.

Edited February 5, 2023 by Tank_Owl2,0

[Tank_Owl2,0]

22 minutes ago, M42Owl said:

On the disallowed goal: I was on the North, towards the kop and, although Gregory jumped to avoid the ball hitting him, it passed between him and the keeper. In no way was Gregory impeding the keeper’s view, and it’s a hard push to say he prevented a dive. A clear goal for me.

But my celebration was muted as I saw the linesman stood still. I thought that he was sure LG was beyond the last defender, but unsure whether he was interfering with play. So I think he did what he should do, and got the ref to decide. Can’t say I noticed either looking at the replay on the screen. 
 

Something else happened in the match that I don’t think hasn’t happened for some time. We scored from a throw-in. Usually, our throw-ins result in rapid loss of possession, but wow, we scored from one. When was the last time? 
 

Has there been any word on why Famewo didn’t play? He’s going to be needed until James comes back.

DM said Famewo was rested bc he’s trained and played to the max since his return and was sore, so they were giving him a chance to recover.

I don’t know what it was but I sensed something when he was asked about Famewo on Friday. I was still surprised he wasn’t playing and Paterson was also in the RWB slot, but DM proved right on both.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

I think Famewo will play Tuesday night 

Be interesting if any of the starting XI Saturday start that match. Certainly wouldn't be putting any of the midfield in. 

[owl4ever1867]

1 hour ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

I think Famewo will play Tuesday night 

Be interesting if any of the starting XI Saturday start that match. Certainly wouldn't be putting any of the midfield in. 

I'll be stunned if Bannan starts.

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

15 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

I think Famewo will play Tuesday night 

Be interesting if any of the starting XI Saturday start that match. Certainly wouldn't be putting any of the midfield in. 

First names on the team sheet for Tuesday night should be the outfield players that were on the bench on Saturday - including Brown. 

Dawson

Palmer Flint Famewo

Hunt Brown

Dennis FDB Bakinson

Wilks Gregory

 

 

[Owling_Wolf]

56 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

First names on the team sheet for Tuesday night should be the outfield players that were on the bench on Saturday - including Brown. 

Dawson

Palmer Flint Famewo

Hunt Brown

Dennis FDB Bakinson

Wilks Gregory

 

 

Not Dawson.  

[HarrySpeakup]

17 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

Am I imagining this, but wasn’t there a ruling that the attacking team should get the benefit of the doubt when it’s marginal/ unclear, with the idea it will mean there might be more goals? I mean since the initiation of VAR that seems to have taken a knock.

and the rule about a player going off at the nearest point on the touchline when being subsituted

everyone now just wanders over to the dugouts from wherever they are on the pitch

Edited February 6, 2023 by HarrySpeakup

[EastCraigsOwl]

2 hours ago, HarrySpeakup said:

and the rule about a player going off at the nearest point on the touchline when being subsituted

everyone now just wanders over to the dugouts from wherever they are on the pitch

Funnily enough, I think it was a Tottenham player yesterday who got shunted towards the nearest pitch edge when he was getting subbed late on.

I thought, "not seen that for a while".

[KrolMong]

5 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

First names on the team sheet for Tuesday night should be the outfield players that were on the bench on Saturday - including Brown. 

Dawson

Palmer Flint Famewo

Hunt Brown

Dennis FDB Bakinson

Wilks Gregory

 

 

I would not disagree with that team. Perhaps give Stockdale a game. If I could find a way of resting Palmer and Flint, I would. We want Palmer, Flint and Iorfa fit for Saturday.

[Andyben]

I'd rather win this match so play the best team possible in this game and every one after

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

12 minutes ago, Andyben said:

I'd rather win this match so play the best team possible in this game and every one after

I actually think having played them a lot, putting out our B side is no bad thing to keep em guessing.

And Rooney will try and cripple someone no doubt 

[Tylluan]

Been sent footage of a bit of handbags taking place what looks like to the side of the Lepp by the river. Can't tell if it's pre or post game but there doesn't look many there. 

One Muppet kicks his leg out and his intended victim catches it and makes him hop about a bit. 

 

[Owling_Wolf]

21 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

Been sent footage of a bit of handbags taking place what looks like to the side of the Lepp by the river. Can't tell if it's pre or post game but there doesn't look many there. 

One Muppet kicks his leg out and his intended victim catches it and makes him hop about a bit. 

 

That should be set to the music from the chase scenes at the end of the Benny Hill Show.  

[Reesh]

3 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

That should be set to the music from the chase scenes at the end of the Benny Hill Show.  

And all the combatants looked younger than you despite them looking like God's first attempt at man 

[Reesh]

Love this

 

[Skamp]

How the fuck can you make a video that boring to watch?

 

Re the first video. 

Edited February 6, 2023 by Skamp

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

3 hours ago, Tylluan said:

Been sent footage of a bit of handbags taking place what looks like to the side of the Lepp by the river. Can't tell if it's pre or post game but there doesn't look many there. 

One Muppet kicks his leg out and his intended victim catches it and makes him hop about a bit. 

 

Is that the Devon Pastie v Yorkshire Pudding Tic Toc ??  

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

13 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

Is that the Devon Pastie v Yorkshire Pudding Tic Toc ??  

At their age they should be as dull as fuck like me

[Tylluan]

52 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

Is that the Devon Pastie v Yorkshire Pudding Tic Toc ??  

It was lifted from Tic Toc so probably 

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

4 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

It was lifted from Tic Toc so probably 

Half Pint just sent it me.  Not embarrassing in the slightest.

Please delete if glorifying 'violence' !!

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by Hirstys 12th Pint

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

Are any of these Owlsonliners ?

Winco ?  Owling ? 

Or it it Bartos v MPB ?

 

[Kiwi Owl]

 

2 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

 

Half Pint just sent it me.  Not embarrassing in the slightest.

Please delete if glorifying 'violence' !!

 

Looks like Daily Mail reporters versus David Conn followers clashing over who gets the first 'Leppings Lane is dangerous' article 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

8 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

Are any of these Owlsonliners ?

Winco ?  Owling ? 

Or it it Bartos v MPB ?

 

I did walk past that spot on Saturday but can confirm it wasn't me. Though as the proud joint owner with my mate Paul of the Ecclesfield School "most pathetic fight ever" award it could have been. 

[Paul from Wisewood]

9 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

 

Half Pint just sent it me.  Not embarrassing in the slightest.

Please delete if glorifying 'violence' !!

 

What in fucking gods name is that!

As mi grandad would’ve said.. couldn’t knock the skin off a rice pudding 

want banning for the sheer embarrassment 

 

[Ozzie]

Made a point of tuning into Sky Sports for Ref Watch. 

Spent forever on City FFP and Casemiro, eventually went down the leagues and "We're running out of time but a quick word on the Plymouth v Wednesday"

Gregory was offside (he wasn't) as long as they get to the right decision (they didn't) it doesn't matter how long it takes. Totally ignored the presenters question of em using the their screen.

Dunno why they bother with Gallagher as he contradicts himself over every decision but always backs the officials.

[Reesh]

Gregory WAS offside though.

[Ozzie]

3 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Gregory WAS offside though.

He wasn't interfering or touched the ball so not offside.

[Skamp]

Good enough for Man Utd v Citeh

[Reesh]

1 hour ago, Ozzie said:

He wasn't interfering or touched the ball so not offside.

He was stood offside he was offside, I agree he didn't interfere with play but you said he wasn't offside but he was.

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

1 hour ago, Ozzie said:

He wasn't interfering or touched the ball so not offside.

It was an interesting one because at the ground - right side of the Kop - Gregory is further away from the keeper. The camera position foreshortens his proximity, the fan cam behind the goal is the best 

So old school that is offside but what we don't want is offside being given - like it used to be - if Gregory was 20 yards away from the direction the ball was travelling

Modern "interpretation" or called making up this bollocks as they go along its debatable 

So I am not annoyed that it was disallowed on technical grounds more how the ref and lino came to make their decision and the time taken

And like many others why VAR is detrimental to the spontaneity of football and serves a purpose purely for the armchair supporters 

 

[Ozzie]

Old Mother Riley as head of refereeing might explain why it's in such a mess. 

Saw at weekend that Howard Webb is taking over so fingers crossed more sense might be on the way...

[HarrySpeakup]

The keeper immediately started pointing and complaining but that’s what keepers do after every goal

Gregory did look a little sheepish and didn’t go crazy celebrating like all the other players - maybe he was worried that he was offside and/or interfering

[Owling_Wolf]

18 hours ago, Reesh said:

And all the combatants looked younger than you despite them looking like God's first attempt at man 

Kinnell, man, you're absolutely obsessed with age. 

[Winco]

15 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said:

Are any of these Owlsonliners ?

Winco ?  Owling ? 

Or it it Bartos v MPB ?

 

Didn’t go pal. Been busy as fuck with work.

I know a load was out from 12 got a msg but that looks like Plymouth on Plymouth to me.

[Reesh]

Sad news that the Argyle keeper will miss the rest of the season. He's the best keeper in the league for me.