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Ok how do you benchmark answer 1 if not on previous ownership of SWFC? Do you benchmark it against the other 91 clubs? Because undoubtably we are better run than lots and not as good as lots and equal to lots. Then you have to set context and I revert back to historical ownership. Otherwise we remain in the realm of a subjectivity to answer this question 🙂 2) actually its only because people shout the negatives more than the positives from these events. This is shown in the inaccuracy of comments made post these events and they way people hear them. Previous owner didn’t care and treated us like mushrooms. Maybe that is indeed the best approach. Also we get lots of good social media content from within the club now. Again maybe the days of Green Un, fanzines and Praise Grumble hid the level of unhappiness, or prevented the loudest from repeating their point every hour on X, Facebook, Stalk etc… 3) I agree - but they’re no guarantees in football. I am frustrated with this season but also can see us trying to play a more exciting system. I was happyish at Cardiff and first half yesterday I was like if we do this in championship no problem! But that quickly unravelled 2nd half. Do you honestly think Moore would of been manager with full support of the supports come May 2024?

1) In the sense that the problems facing the club are not the ability to pay our bills - an issue we faced for a decade play before. But how do we progress and stay within the rules? Weve had the highest crowd since the 90’s and we’ve had the highest finish in leagues since relegated. We’ve smashed records because of the investment by the owner. Indeed we can actually buy a player if we want to. 2) Engagement - NEVER have I seen fans at this club engage with the owner as much!! Christ he’d happily sit with any critics for hours! Please tell me who did that before. Now in todays world of social media everything is amplified! Please point me a time when you could arrange a face to face with owner?? 3) I only know that I said 10 games and we have 2 week break coming up. 3 points last Saturday and we’d have gone 19th. We’re not yet cut adrift but a point or 3 against Leeds is needed mainly for fan sanity. Evidence enough MK?

XM on result I'm a little bit disappointed about the result again. It's incredible. We need to change our attitude in some moments. If we don't it is impossible. XM on result We shot 25 times but when you don't score, this is football. If you give them chance to shoot - we have to reflect and everybody is thinking about how we change this situation. It's impossible to lose this game. Another individual mistake led to it. XM on the performance They shoot maybe five times at most? And score. We shoot 25 times and we are the team from the Championship, they are League Two. XM on disappointments It's not only today. First half was some good moments but the last two minutes before their goal, I don't know what happened. We have to think about responsibilities. XM reflects After half-time we tried to give important minutes (to players). I don't find a solution about this situation. We need to have a reflection about what happened in some moments of the game. If you tell me the final score, you wouldn't believe it. XM on chances We had chances to kill the game but (not taking them) it killed us. I think this was a very good performance but in the last third you need something special. XM on progress It's my responsibility: everything. The players have experience and have responsibility. I try to give my best always. After we will see what happens, at Leeds. It's a big challenge. It's a better team than us but 100 per cent we go there to get the points: because we need them and because the players are working very hard every day. XM on Fletcher He is one of the important players but we need more. It's not only him. Everyone needs to give more. We have a responsibility for our fans. It's not only him. XM on Bambo Diaby and George Byers It was my decision because I think we have 5/6 defenders and I tried to freshen the squad up. https://x.com/alexmiller91/status/1696646939264078073?s=46&t=F9qeWpIivndeKQlDWX1sFg

We’ve put out a good team tonight. First half was decent to be fair - but against poor opposition. They stepped it up in second and laid off the gas .. we had chances to be fair but so did they in second. Am struggling to see overall how Munoz going to turn this around tonight .. I’ll sleep on it because I said I’d wait till after international break, but we need an almighty performance Saturday to pull off a draw I think. P.s. did we turn Nathan Jones down or he us?

DC is given dogs abuse for retaining Carlos season 2! Carlos delivered more points, 4 less goals (?) higher league finish and (some) fans hate that season!

I’d play the team that started today with James starting over Delgado.

To be honest I thought we played ok today - we deserved a point for sure. BUT - that team played 442, and was essentially Moore’s league 1 team with a few additions. Did the players get their way or did Xisco relent and try something new? Had he started with this formation and approach I think we’d have a few points on the board. Need to see peno back - didn’t get the right view from within ground. Gutted with outcome. Chansiri out chants have now started - loud - yes (one section only didn’t really filter throughout ) Universal - no Delgado abuse is gaining due to some wayward passes but he’s got something about him. What will happen in the coming weeks are arguments and fights in the ground I suspect if we don’t start to get some results soon.

Leeds reciprocal offer arrangement is crafty PR. They have a solid season ticket base and high demand for limited number of seats. Their prices are more expensive than ours if you consider our range average (guess) Their dependencies on away fans is lower than ours due to parachute payments It costs over 1000 for a season ticket at Ipswich in one section of their ground. Their top offer never quoted. I think it’s £82 on match day. Ipswich spend profile means they have an eye on FFP - they also have huge momentum at moment. Leed’s offer is compounding the wealth gap even more with championship clubs and painting championship owners as the bad people - not that system is geared against championship owners! Now I think most we can charge Leeds fans is £45 when they come - had we done a deal and matched at £35 that’s estimated 33k less in our coffers when the 3,300 Leeds fans pitch up to us -if we can sort the Lep out and open it up to more Leeds than could mean 50k more to us as a Cub. No the eyes watered when I bought Leeds ticket and even I was annoyed we couldn’t do a deal, could of been an PR win for DC - but he’ll still be hated so also what’s the point of a one off win - he’s got P&L to protect from FFP auditors! But the fact is due to train strikes it’s no different, indeed cheaper to watch us at Leeds than Cardiff tmw all in, and had the trains been on Leeds would have been cheaper than Cardiff away.

Next generation argument … fact is we’ve had solid average attendances under DC versus about 25 before he became owner. indeed you have to go back to the late 90’s to beat 2 of the season under DC stewardship overall season average. Season ticket for the next generation were £75 in Jan

No I agree… The writing up of it only creates more issues for club at time we need to be pulling together Anti Chansiri mob are using this as proof DC lied - when their glaring spin in the write up.

New story from stir - DC wanted to discuss with DM not agent. The chairman asked me what I was looking for from the football club,” Moore said. “And my reply was that I just wanted a contract that shows that you value me… The chairman was asking for a figure, but I said to him ‘I just know that I want to be the manager of your football club.’ He kept asking for a number... I never wanted to leave the football club, I’ve made that clear.” “The Star was told that as per conversations with the League Managers Association, Moore was among the three lowest paid managers in the Championship when he arrived at Hillsborough from Doncaster Rovers and saw his salary cut further once relegation to League One was confirmed. It’s claimed a salary of four times his previous contract was requested as a starting point of negotiations only – a figure again as per LMA indications that would still have had him amongst the lowest-paid managers in the Championship and somewhere in the region of the average second tier salary.

The stir not applying critical thinking to interview. Bored of all the negativity at the moment we need 3 points in bag very soon!

Fact is we are struggling to sell out at Cardiff (think is just about done now) Fact is I think it’s going to go to general sale for Leeds due to price and I don’t think we get 2,900 going! (We struggled at £42 last time) Fact is most championship ground have the ability to sell 2000 minimum to away fans - Plymouth the lowest at 1,500 (can go up to 1,850 ) We will not sell out at Plymouth - Wednesday night October. Point hording and sell on is an issue - BUT you can build your points by making the effort and COL crisis will put people off. Excuses will roll in: train strike its not local quickly followed for Leeds that it’s too expensive (principles) The real reason - were all miserable because it’s a tough start - boo bloody hoo Holding 50 back seems an ok compromise to be honest given the volume of tickets available at minimum allocations in the league! I guess am saying this season if performance stay middle of the table TPP isn’t preventing people from going games as we will not sell out as quickly! Yes I’ve got points that put me in the top tier - I’ve missed 2 away games in 3 seasons - one being Hull this year.

AB - I think it’s the same bird ”31 Jan 2022 — The allegations against Greenwood were posted on social media earlier in the day by Harriet Robson, who is believed to be his ex-girlfriend.” 14 Jul 2023 — MASON Greenwood has welcomed his first child with his girlfriend Harriet Robson.

Mason Greenwood situation is strange when you have to balance out side world reaction, the publicly available evidence and that of the fact that he’s engaged to, and now had a child with the same girlfriend who published the videos in the first place?

Show of proof. Milan learned after Mammadov. So Chansiri never came to the fan base he went and bought a few players before sealing the deal. Sheard, Cloud 9 and Alonso all came to us fans to paint the Owners in a bad light because they never really had the funds! Shaw wants us great - buy us! People giving DC a hard time will double down - they also criticised his for the recent short sponsor - at least we got the funds!

Bells, Moore came with an offer and wasn’t willing to negotiate it.. Chansiri says he was willing to. [that’s the only info we have in the public domain -currently not disputed] Am not sure it’s a sacking or you can blame Chansiri fully for not having scoobies post such an event? Then what is obvious given the constraints of operation and the huge amount of rumours doing the rounds as to why - we failed to appoint quickly. We were behind the curve by finishing on the 29th May!! Playoff teams always are. DM was the reason for that screw up! So we were behind the curve, a manager hunt created more issues and then setting up the backroom took a little more time. Is it short term thinking to allow him to sort a backroom out before recruitment? Am not sure it’s being labelled correctly - if DC sacks him this side of Xmas maybe that is short termism.. but not sure we can claim it now with any accuracy as being “throw it all together last minute”

Had hoped for a little sanity on here having been looking at Stalk and some of the Facebook groups … MK doing a good job replicating the knee jerk reactions here 🙂 Most of us understand there is a process in place here, new players gelling with old. new players need to get on pitch as well and a brand new high press style that clearly not working yet. We have to at minimum as a fan base hold nerve to the first international break! The anti Chansiri lot are loving it.. but remember they jumped at the Barnsley defeat to rain doom down on us all. P.S. It’s that non of us are not close to panic, it just applying common sense to all the variables at play here!

Stats show us trying - 17 shots greater possession. Mates at the game telling me were awful - I.E all over shop Listening to I follow said similar tbf Were a brand new team and formation gelling I don’t think any of us are expecting us to hit the ground running due to slow start though We’ve fought till end and got an equaliser We’ve smashed them on penos with the new keeper saving 2!! PNE, Hull, Sunderland and the mighty Southampton all beaten by lower opposition

Oh agree!! Also Dawson got a yellow for time wasting - Stockdale tactics are fucked in this now era ! As a team and supporters we’ve got to gear up for minimum extra 15 mins per game now.

Like most of you I’ve come away last night not feeling too down hearted. We lost to 2 well taken goals and against a team whose likely to lose a few before the window shuts and whose value is light years ahead of ours. Also consider we lost Byers in middle before kick off and 10 of 11 played a totally different system for 1 whole season if not 2 then yes am fine with the defeat. One scary factor was the 6 + 9 minutes extra time on the field. Now that serious value for you tickets prices but going to be costly for those 5:30 train back to Sheffield away days lol.

Our future local American owner !

Yes an owner who is ambitious, as demanded play off push as a minimum requirement of any manager - but accept it’s not as easy as that as well. Cuts his cloth accordingly as he attempts to walk the tightrope of P&S and player wage demands / expectations. Seemingly learning from his mistakes and currently just asks of his fan base to criticise him Face to face and not make our club a laughing stock on social media. Welcome to season 23/24!! UTO!

PNE game Cat E i see So £33 on Kop.

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