mkowlthesexynewversion Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 The man from Uxbridge he say no Be fucking off back to Del Monte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Really? Hang the GE loss on Sunak or Mordaunt, make a few mill on the talk circuit, replace the loser in due course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Tell you what's embarrassing. Captain Crasheroonie Snoozefest squirming like a squirmy thing every time he's asked what Labour's policy on tax and spending would be. It appears to be 'not what the Tories are doing' and that's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 Sunak to get it then after Mordaunt withdraws after getting under 100 backers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 20/10/2022 at 18:35, Andyben said: Horseshit. Sorry https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2668/nasa-led-study-solves-a-methane-puzzle/ Not difficult to find credible sources on the methane/fracking link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Sunak to get it then after Mordaunt withdraws after getting under 100 backers. Truss being replaced by Sunak is welcome as far as I’m concerned. It’s the Tories accepting that they’re probably going to lose the next general election, but at least trying not to wreck the economy in the mean time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollongong Owl Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 That Lectern's on telly more often than Jermaine Jenas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Suella Braverman returns as Home Secretary six days after resigning for “making a mistake”. How are comedians supposed to make a living? You couldn’t write this stuff. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Well of course some mistakes can be made on purpose. Thought of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 23 hours ago, owl71 said: Suella Braverman returns as Home Secretary six days after resigning for “making a mistake”. How are comedians supposed to make a living? You couldn’t write this stuff. 🤣 Makes a complete mockery of everything he said yesterday outside No10. Pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Well it’s nice to see Sunak obviously believes the same “horseshit” as myself about the link between fracking and methane levels. Every single thing Truss tried to change has been put back the way it was before. 🤣 She’s like some mad Auntie who embarrassed herself at a birthday party after one Sherry too many, and now everyone’s carrying on where they left off, and trying to pretend it didn’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 22 hours ago, owl71 said: Well it’s nice to see Sunak obviously believes the same “horseshit” as myself about the link between fracking and methane levels. A politically popular decision. The public have been so deeply brainwashed over the last 10-15 years, nobody dare go against the agreed narrative. They can frack in my back garden any time they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 How on earth can Suella Braverman still be in a job? Anybody outside the government and in a normal job gets fired for what she's done.... 1 rule for them another for everybody else... The fact she's now admitted to SIX emails being sent from her government email to her personal one so she can send it to anybody is quite frankly a stackable offense..... I didn't realise this but : Suella Bravermans husband was Richie Rich best man at his wedding..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 emails. How dare she. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Her real name is Sue-Ellen If she's pissing off the left then she's doing something right in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Andyben said: 6 emails. How dare she. It’d only take one for your mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, Skamp said: If she's pissing off the left then she's doing something right in my book. Mental and a sign of how fucked the country is. It’s like Brexit, everyone that voted to leave are now worse off for it but it doesn’t matter because they’re on the winning side and it pissed off remainers. Stupid beyond belief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Mental and a sign of how fucked the country is. It’s like Brexit, everyone that voted to leave are now worse off for it but it doesn’t matter because they’re on the winning side and it pissed off remainers. Stupid beyond belief 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Mental and a sign of how fucked the country is. It’s like Brexit, everyone that voted to leave are now worse off for it but it doesn’t matter because they’re on the winning side and it pissed off remainers. Stupid beyond belief What part of brexit is to blame for current economic climate in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, Andyben said: What part of brexit is to blame for current economic climate in the UK. Restrictions on trade, of course that’s not exclusively to blame but if Brexit is not playing any part then how do you explain that we’re the worst performing of all G7 countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Are we? On what basis. Edited November 2, 2022 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 https://fullfact.org/economy/january-2022-gdp-growth-g7/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 https://www.icaew.com/insights/viewpoints-on-the-news/2022/apr-2022/chart-of-the-week-g7-economic-growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Something a little more recent for you… https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/30/uk-is-only-g7-country-with-smaller-economy-than-before-covid-19 Samuel Tombs, the chief UK economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, said the figures suggested that the damage inflicted by Covid-19 and Brexit on to the economy’s ability to grow was even larger than previously thought. and The recent turmoil in British financial markets has also highlighted the UK’s large current account deficit. The amount by which the value of imports exceeds that of exports has worsened since the financial crisis of 2008 and the Brexit vote despite steep falls in the value of the pound that make exports cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Meanwhile, a somewhat more balanced view than that of the left leaning, anti-British pile of poo that is the Guardian. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/10/liz-truss-uk-britain-economy-brexit/671778/ Edit. Don't get me wrong, it's notball sweetness and honey. Edited November 2, 2022 by Skamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Not the same thing that though is it. Also Economic growth figures for the UK and other countries are not entirely comparable due to the way in which the UK calculates the output of its health and education sectors and bearing in mind the size of the UK health sector (5th largest direct employer in the world) it skews things further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, Skamp said: Meanwhile, a somewhat more balanced view than that of the left leaning, anti-British pile of poo that is the Guardian. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/10/liz-truss-uk-britain-economy-brexit/671778/ The Atlantic is a very very left leaning publication. Owned by Mrs Zuckerberg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andyben said: Not the same thing that though is it. Also Economic growth figures for the UK and other countries are not entirely comparable due to the way in which the UK calculates the output of its health and education sectors and bearing in mind the size of the UK health sector (5th largest direct employer in the world) it skews things further Plus most of the supposed lack of growth (in comparison to the G7) is based on projections my the IMF from March this year. Not actual figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I'd rely more on the Guardian that the IMF to stick up for Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Zakkerly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 02/11/2022 at 20:52, Skamp said: Meanwhile, a somewhat more balanced view than that of the left leaning, anti-British pile of poo that is the Guardian. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/10/liz-truss-uk-britain-economy-brexit/671778/ Edit. Don't get me wrong, it's notball sweetness and honey. Yet pretending Brexit has nothing to do with the country’s current woes is equally self-serving. About half of the giant fiscal hole that now exists as a result of Truss’s tax-cutting madness is attributable to the permanently lower economic-growth forecast caused by Brexit. In other words, “Trussonomics” would have been less foolhardy inside the EU than out. Also true is that Brexit helped create today’s modern Conservative Party, which in turn created a prime minister who promised to do stupid things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Balanced, but hardly a ringing endorsement. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 From today's Telegraph.. Daily Mail... Err Guardian? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/06/brexit-blame-uk-economy-opportunity-eu?CMP=share_btn_tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Anyone think of an event in 2016 that would make that red line shoot up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Covid. Like the other countries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, Andyben said: Covid. Like the other countries In 2016? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 the line starts much earlier than that, and lets be honest, to have such a straight line from millions of dataset over a 10yr period, where no other jurisdiction has the same does look a bit weird, no? Do you think that by putting such a large arrow andf making it thicker than anywhere else may show a little 'artistic license' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Transpose the data in this article, NHS Budget increase year on year, and only reasonabel outcome is that the more funds the NHS receives, the worse it gets at looking after its patients https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Andyben said: the line starts much earlier than that, and lets be honest, to have such a straight line from millions of dataset over a 10yr period, where no other jurisdiction has the same does look a bit weird, no? Do you think that by putting such a large arrow andf making it thicker than anywhere else may show a little 'artistic license' Between 2016 and 2020 (Covid) the percentage of adults more than doubled. That’s Brexit for you 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 oh look, another graph showing the same upward trajectory UK population Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 So the population has increased by around 2 million The approximate numbers of adults who’s healthcare needs have not been met in the same period is up by around 6 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 So we should privatise the NHS because it's getting more money now than ever. @Neville Facking Bartosare you being serious or are you a bit thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I mean come on. Budget increased, more workers and second highest number of health staff per 1000 people of population (second only to Switzerland). Seems less about brexit and more about the inefficient nature of the NHS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The NHS spunk money left,right and centre, I find it an absolute embarrassment how much they waste. The Wife is in need of a major operation, we had it confirmed for 3rd November, got her onto the ward for 11am, come 4pm they had cancelled it, told her she's on the priority list and to be ready at 24 hours notice for incase a spot comes up. The NHS is and will always continue to be on its knees while ever those at the very top continue to waste money like they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: The NHS spunk money left,right and centre, I find it an absolute embarrassment how much they waste. The Wife is in need of a major operation, we had it confirmed for 3rd November, got her onto the ward for 11am, come 4pm they had cancelled it, told her she's on the priority list and to be ready at 24 hours notice for incase a spot comes up. [b]The NHS is and will always continue to be on its knees while ever those at the very top continue to waste money like they do.[/b] I'll agree with you on that. Hope your missus gets the much needed operation quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Is it not the population increasing but the age of the population is increasing, coupled with a lack of self motivation/realisation to look after yourself instead of relying on the state to do so. There is a acute lack of staff in certain areas of expertise and in certain areas of the country but I read somewhere that the fastest growing (and rapidly overburdening) waiting lists are in mental health and among the u30s. That's not down to Brexit. People (and families) directly impacted by waiting lists will always feel it worse. I'm waiting for one that should have happened 10 months ago and landed me in A&E while on holiday but I'll not have a go at the NHS. I'll have a go at the governments of the last 40 years who didn't heed the warning signs and projections and plan effectively. Who throw money as a sticking plaster and not look at proper, ground floor led reform. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Thinking about it I must be mistaken as since Brexit we’ve been ploughing 350 million a week into the NHS. Boris’ red bus told me so it must be true This advert is comedy gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) It's actually much more, even prepandemic And by 2023/24 it's over £40bn pa more then in 2016. Thats £800m per week Edited November 8, 2022 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Imagine gloating because people are ill and dying @Neville Facking Bartos Sick fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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