Who needs morals when money is available

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

Hypocrisy

Amazing how the prospect of 700k a week can change your apparent moral stance 

[Andyben]

Smackem x Scouser 

Expect anything less?

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

Just like a lot of folk, either in sport or media the virtue signalling is all part of the career process. Good to see this week that the Natwest boss got her comeuppance

[HoylandOwl]

The Saudi’s aren’t going to change their stance on LGBTQ+ 

Players have the chance to ‘earn’ eye watering sums of money.

As MK titled this thread. Morals won’t matter.

They don’t in football anyway, across the board, even here on things like betting. So it’s not a shock. 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

15 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

The Saudi’s aren’t going to change their stance on LGBTQ+ 

Players have the chance to ‘earn’ eye watering sums of money.

As MK titled this thread. Morals won’t matter.

They don’t in football anyway, across the board, even here on things like betting. So it’s not a shock. 

That is why all the rainbow laces, kneeling before matches is all rhetoric. Been seen to be doing the right thing but the hypocrisy that surrounds all these messages is profound

My view is to treat is with the bullshit stick it deserves 

Like badge clutching - that player would fuck off for 3k a week extra 

[HoylandOwl]

2 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

That is why all the rainbow laces, kneeling before matches is all rhetoric. Been seen to be doing the right thing but the hypocrisy that surrounds all these messages is profound

My view is to treat is with the bullshit stick it deserves 

Like badge clutching - that player would fuck off for 3k a week extra 

I have no issues at all with things like players wearing Rainbow Laces etc, people should have the choice to be able to raise awareness of issues. 
But the authorities shouldn’t stamp their feet with other things when they’re very often hypocritical 

[Reesh]

7 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

I have no issues at all with things like players wearing Rainbow Laces etc, people should have the choice to be able to raise awareness of issues. 
But the authorities shouldn’t stamp their feet with other things when they’re very often hypocritical 

Alright Liberace don't have a hissy fit

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

23 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

I have no issues at all with things like players wearing Rainbow Laces etc, people should have the choice to be able to raise awareness of issues. 
But the authorities shouldn’t stamp their feet with other things when they’re very often hypocritical 

My only issue is that this awareness is now forced down out throats - whether in the stadium or watching on TV

The booing of the BLM stuff was not about the message but more football is hijacked for political messaging 

Some of us prefer to have sport as an escape from that sort of crap 

[lobster]

Money trumps morals every time - all ways has done .

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

46 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

That is why all the rainbow laces, kneeling before matches is all rhetoric. Been seen to be doing the right thing but the hypocrisy that surrounds all these messages is profound

My view is to treat is with the bullshit stick it deserves 

Like badge clutching - that player would fuck off for 3k a week extra 

Rhetoric is everywhere.  I'm just doing a large tender at work and the number of extra costs involved to tick environmental boxes and social responsibility is ridiculous.   You can bet when the contracts come to be signed be amazing how many of the 'initiatives' go by the wayside due to costs. 

[Owling_Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

Would anyone else be be any different? I’d get involved in beheadings for 700k a week 

Start with yer own then!   😋

[Skamp]

Gary Neville told you everything you need about all those happy to promote virtue signalling until it comes to hard cash.

Of course we'd all do it to set ourselves and our families up financially for life - just stop trying to be superior and trendy with the bullshit the rest of the time.

Someone mentioned the Nat West bank and Coutts earlier.  Now this something to be scary of.  Social engineering by large organisations who wish to favour curry with less than 25% of the population/ customer base (off the top of my head) is really, really scary.  Orwell was out by 40 years but he got it absolutely spot on.

Remember a couple of years back when the Humberside Police were criticised by arresting someone who posted his thoughts on Twitter and told him he needed to 're-think his opinions (or similar)?  It won't be long before it's in the statute books. 

 

[Beaconowl]

1 minute ago, Skamp said:

Gary Neville told you everything you need about all those happy to promote virtue signalling until it comes to hard cash.

Of course we'd all do it to set ourselves and our families up financially for life - just stop trying to be superior and trendy with the bullshit the rest of the time.

Someone mentioned the Nat West bank and Coutts earlier.  Now this something to be scary of.  Social engineering by large organisations who wish to favour curry with less than 25% of the population/ customer base (off the top of my head) is really, really scary.  Orwell was out by 40 years but he got it absolutely spot on.

Remember a couple of years back when the Humberside Police were criticised by arresting someone who posted his thoughts on Twitter and told him he needed to 're-think his opinions (or similar)?  It won't be long before it's in the statute books. 

 

@Skamp I have the same issues with these “champagne socialists”. They tell us all what we should be doing and then go and do the complete opposite themselves 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

46 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

Would anyone else be be any different? I’d get involved in beheadings for 700k a week 

Start with all the socialists and I would do it for 70k per week

Andyben would like to add in Alex Miller from The Stir 

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, Neville Facking Bartos said:

Only if the 700k continues to get paid to my nearest and dearest 

Ok, I promise...

[KrolMong]

He’s gone radio silent on the whole subject. I don’t know whether you saw, in the announcement picture, he’s wearing the rainbow armband and the club has made the picture black and white.

The reality is that morals go out of the window when cash is involved.

Now let me tell you what is coming very very soon out of Saudi football. All these astronomical transfer fees will disappear when the teams in that league decide that they won’t actually pay the transfer fees and there is absolutely nothing FIFA can do about it. That will also extend to players not being paid when injured or dropped.

What will come in time is a new football regime completely dominated by the Middle East, and all the football federations disappearing down the toilet. 

[Tylluan]

1 hour ago, Beaconowl said:

@Skamp I have the same issues with these “champagne socialists”. They tell us all what we should be doing and then go and do the complete opposite themselves 

I'm still waiting for Stormzy to stop using the N word and cough up the ten mil he promised at that BLM march. 

[Owling_Wolf]

3 hours ago, KrolMong said:

He’s gone radio silent on the whole subject. I don’t know whether you saw, in the announcement picture, he’s wearing the rainbow armband and the club has made the picture black and white.

The reality is that morals go out of the window when cash is involved.

Now let me tell you what is coming very very soon out of Saudi football. All these astronomical transfer fees will disappear when the teams in that league decide that they won’t actually pay the transfer fees and there is absolutely nothing FIFA can do about it. That will also extend to players not being paid when injured or dropped.

What will come in time is a new football regime completely dominated by the Middle East, and all the football federations disappearing down the toilet. 

You're a cheery lad.  👀

[Gamblor]

4 hours ago, KrolMong said:

All these astronomical transfer fees will disappear when the teams in that league decide that they won’t actually pay the transfer fees and there is absolutely nothing FIFA can do about it.

Saudi want the World Cup, there’s no way they’re doing the one thing to FIFA that they actually would respond to. 

[HoylandOwl]

4 hours ago, KrolMong said:

He’s gone radio silent on the whole subject. I don’t know whether you saw, in the announcement picture, he’s wearing the rainbow armband and the club has made the picture black and white.

The reality is that morals go out of the window when cash is involved.

Now let me tell you what is coming very very soon out of Saudi football. All these astronomical transfer fees will disappear when the teams in that league decide that they won’t actually pay the transfer fees and there is absolutely nothing FIFA can do about it. That will also extend to players not being paid when injured or dropped.

What will come in time is a new football regime completely dominated by the Middle East, and all the football federations disappearing down the toilet. 

It smacks of when the Chinese league started up and were spending ridiculous amounts on the likes of Oscar. 

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, Owling_Wolf said:

You're a cheery lad.  👀

Don't you take the terror shekels Fred..

[Owling_Wolf]

45 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Don't you take the terror shekels Fred..

Israel?  WTF?

Edited July 28, 2023 by Owling_Wolf

[Andyben]

No terrorists from The Homeland Fred....

[Owling_Wolf]

Bendy, old chap, you lost me some while back. 

[KrolMong]

14 hours ago, Gamblor said:

Saudi want the World Cup, there’s no way they’re doing the one thing to FIFA that they actually would respond to. 

It’s already started…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fifpro-warns-players-over-signing-30213891

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/saudi-arabian-clubs-found-guilty-of-not-paying-players-wages-397170

And we all know that FIFA are complicit in these matters when there are money opportunities.

[BraddersTim]

Average attendances in the Saudi League last season.

[owl71]

This current wave of liberalisation in Saudi Arabia is probably a good thing taken in isolation.  It’s better that they spend their oil money on sports washing than on promoting global jihad. The minor drawback is that it’s all happening on the whims of a 37 year old Crown Prince, who’s had lots of his own uncles and cousins locked up in the past, and who was made Prime Minister by his dad earlier this year.  How widely the population of the country support what he’s doing is anyone’s guess.  Given the past history of the country, some massive Salafist backlash and armed rebellion can’t be completely impossible.  There would be a certain irony if some of these greedy fuckers end up being paraded before the cameras in orange jump suits.

[EBRA]

Saudi world cup bid is what’s coming next - Qatar worked on many levels for FIFA, the public and not so public!

I don’t blame the players for taking the cash, there will be an argument of changing society from within. They become heroes to a young generation of Saudi and post their large contracts their liberal influence may have some impact. 
 

But the falsity in this argument is democracy in the Middle East (a western ideology) often leads to a nightmare geopolitically for the West and East.