HoylandOwl Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 For his comments on government policy. AND... Ian Wright has refused to appear too as per his tweet which I've shared for those who can see it below. I've not watched MOTD this season at all, so it's no loss either way to me, but it's interesting to see this play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 And now Dan Walker has commented on twitter too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 50p says MOTD will be on tomorrow as normal. That said. It is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Skamp said: 50p says MOTD will be on tomorrow as normal. That said. It is a mess. But the ones hand wringing about this were undoubtedly the ones screaming that Jeremy Clarkson should be sacked from ITV / Amazon for his Meghan jibe Definition of free speech these days is " I agree with it unless my view is different" Folk are basically hypocrits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Well if Jermaine Jenas, Micah Richards, Danny Murphy and Ian Wright aren't on I may actually watch it In fact just show the games, none of the chat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Steve Bannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said: Step forward Alex Scott presenting tomorrow night, nailed on Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Be him off MOTD 2 Chapman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skamp said: Be him off MOTD 2 Chapman? Gerrim off! Leslie Ash beater! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceups Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Has Jenas said he’s not doing it too? I thought he was a screamer to step in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Nobody will present it or provide punditry as the programme will simply concentrate on the football. Could be interesting if no-one gives a shit and like the new format. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just read that the commentators are not taking part either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, holmesfield_owl said: That's what's been announced. I've said for ages more highlights, less inane waffle There won't be any more highlights. It will just be a shorter show. The deal only allows so many minutes of highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 To be honest we could do without most of the pundits as they are all from the school of the bleedin obvious , some are so clueless they have to be prompted by Lineker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Haven’t watched MOTD for years but if it’s half an hour of highlights without all the chat I might actually give it a go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Just read that the commentators are not taking part either. As long as its the wimmin ones 🤐 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: But the ones hand wringing about this were undoubtedly the ones screaming that Jeremy Clarkson should be sacked from ITV / Amazon for his Meghan jibe Definition of free speech these days is " I agree with it unless my view is different" Folk are basically hypocrits Exactly. It was ok for Lineker to rattle on about Qatar and their awful human rights issues during the World Cup though wasn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Just read that the commentators are not taking part either. There'll be commentary. The BBC will be using 5live and World Service radio commentary and fill the gaps with ripping it from other broadcasting providers. If you've got the broadcast rites then you can take from any other licenced outlet, including club's own feeds, provided you do a deal to broadcast their feed. Could set a precedent. With the Premier League contract coming up for renewal it could prove more cost effective for the BBC to show an Amazon or BeIN produced highlights show without BBC presenters. Lineker, Shearer, Wright, Murphy, Richards, et-al are all outside contractors so just don't renew the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 In the words of Evelyn Hall I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Sorted 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I read earlier that they've now approached Noddy to present it, as Big Ears has had to 'step back'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 They've approached Ghana's equivalent to appear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The PL have also now refused players and coaches to interview with the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 They should allow some of the young YouTube vloggers to stand in. Picture that hyperactive CodsVlogs kid having a go at it. Be far more entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The reputation of the BBC has slowly but surely eroded over the last 5 years. I have always accepted that that are at the behest of the monarchy, but it’s become more and more apparent that there is a political influence on what is supposed to be a completely impartial organization - especially with the current government. I have access to BBC News and Sky News in Poland, and I binned off the BBC during COVID times. On Lineker, he’s going to come out of this smelling of roses. A mutual consent dismissal that will earn him millions in a pay off, and a direct line to Sky, BT, Amazon etc for triple the money. I also see the BBC losing any form of highlights package in the upcoming rounds of renegotiations, which will mean you all get to enjoy even more repeats of Mrs Browns Boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: You’ve got to be taking the piss right? What Clarkson said was hate filled whereas Lineker has objected to llanguage from Suella Braverman by stating it isn’t dismiliar to that used in 1930’s Germany. I’m. It bothered whether you agree with Lineker or not but the 2 aren’t the same and this is not a free speech argument Thanks for confirming the strawthem argument that you wholeheartedly agree with free speech albeit with the caveat you have to agree with what the person says 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 So Clarkson said "he dreams of the day she is paraded naked on the streets and people throw shit at her" Created so much angst amongst the same people who wanted Thatcher burned at the stake It's the fucking hypocrisy of people that gets me 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachyderm Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Skamp said: Nobody will present it or provide punditry as the programme will simply concentrate on the football. Could be interesting if no-one gives a shit and like the new format. For some strange reason NBC tired this with the NFL many years ago and it was awful. I agree with Lineker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, pachyderm said: For some strange reason NBC tired this with the NFL many years ago and it was awful. I agree with Lineker... Fuck me. A Yank telling the Brits what to do on immigration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 It's not an argument about free speech, though is it. Not really. Its whether what he said broke the terms of his employment at the BBC, and it was found that he did. Clarkson said something awful but he said it in an article for which he is employed and which had been reveiwed and published by his employer, so he couldn't be sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 ...and Lineker had been warned before about his politicised comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pachyderm Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, Skamp said: Fuck me. A Yank telling the Brits what to do on immigration. Yeah, I am aware of the irony. I'm not telling you, or anyone, what to do about immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Is this the same Gary Lineker currently in a court case with HMRC over £5 million in unpaid taxes and Ni 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, lobster said: Is this the same Gary Lineker currently in a court case with HMRC over £5 million in unpaid taxes and Ni This is my problem with him, the champagne socialist Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pachyderm Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Andyben said: It's not an argument about free speech, though is it. Not really. Its whether what he said broke the terms of his employment at the BBC, and it was found that he did. Clarkson said something awful but he said it in an article for which he is employed and which had been reveiwed and published by his employer, so he couldn't be sacked Well he tweeted his thoughts on his own platform - his personal account on Twitter, - not on the BBC. That is a violation of his free speech, no? The calls for objectivity and impartiality (from the BBC) would be a little more credible had the current chairman of the BBC not himself previously donated £400,000 to the Conservative Party and had also facilitated a loan (of around £800,000) to the disgraced former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpworthOwl Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: You’ve got to be taking the piss right? What Clarkson said was hate filled whereas Lineker has objected to llanguage from Suella Braverman by stating it isn’t dismiliar to that used in 1930’s Germany. I’m. It bothered whether you agree with Lineker or not but the 2 aren’t the same and this is not a free speech argument Yes but Jezza,was right wasn't he 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, lobster said: Is this the same Gary Lineker currently in a court case with HMRC over £5 million in unpaid taxes and Ni The very same. And it all hinges on his employment status. HMRC and their lawyers must be pissing themselves laughing at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, pachyderm said: Well he tweeted his thoughts on his own platform - his personal account on Twitter, - not on the BBC. That is a violation of his free speech, no? The calls for objectivity and impartiality (from the BBC) would be a little more credible had the current chairman of the BBC not himself previously donated £400,000 to the Conservative Party and had also facilitated a loan (of around £800,000) to the disgraced former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, pachyderm said: Well he tweeted his thoughts on his own platform - his personal account on Twitter, - not on the BBC. That is a violation of his free speech, no? The calls for objectivity and impartiality (from the BBC) would be a little more credible had the current chairman of the BBC not himself previously donated £400,000 to the Conservative Party and had also facilitated a loan (of around £800,000) to the disgraced former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson. Well that's another thing, the links to the Tories. Was never deemed a problem then the Governera and trustees, high profile executives and broadcasters were supporting Labour, or becoming Labour peers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Has the superinjunction he took out to stop the papers publishjng details of his affairs whilst married and George was a baby in hospital with Leukaemia been lifted yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 That's always a problem for the whinging lefties, they don't like it when equality means actual equality and not just in their favour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, Neville Facking Bartos said: He’s not employed by the BBC, he provides services as a freelance presenter That is a question the courts are considering at the moment. Old jug-ears saying he's a contractor isn't definitive proof. Badgers of trade etc (with apologies to Alan Irvine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Freedom of speech doesn't free you from the consequences of what you choose to say... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64895316 Doubt if anyone will notice or give a shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 @Neville Facking Bartoslast published BBC salaries (I.e. Employees) has Lineker as a salaried employee, same list says Graham Norton isn't on list becuse he's paid via his own independent company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Lineker is like all critics of any Government - Very easy to Criticize but never come up with a workable solution . Just think of how many asylum seekers Gary could fund if he paid his taxes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, lobster said: Lineker is like all critics of any Government - Very easy to Criticize but never come up with a workable solution . Just think of how many asylum seekers Gary could fund if he paid his taxes Lobster knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The problem is that social media has done its usual and made it a dumb binary argument, let them all in v. keep them all out. Anyone with any sense can see that we should be sympathetic to refugees but also keep some control over who we let in. The debate is how much of the latter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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