owl71 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I’m still saying the same thing I was saying pre-game. Im not worried at all about where the goals are coming from. There are easily enough goals in this team to win the division. The defence was always likely to take a bit of time to settle. Stockdale had the most clean sheets in the division last season. I don’t think it’ll take him that long to sort out the communication with his defence. The biggest worry, as other posters have mentioned, is Iorfa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Iorfa has gone. Get rid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Chelters said: Iorfa would be better as the centre of the three as he can cover round the back of the other two, which is probably where he does his best defensive work. Yes agree with this but won't happen as Hennigan will get exposed for lack of pace. I've thought his best games for us was as a right back, but I wouldn't have him anywhere near a right wing back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Re injuries and time wasting. Interesting experiment took place in the French and Belgian 2nd Divisions, just before lockdown, where independent medical teams were the only ones allowed on the pitch. They'd act as a quick triage and stretcher the player off for club medics to attend to the player once he was off the pitch. If the triage thought there was nothing wrong and the player continued without going off to his own physio then he was booked for time wasting. Water bottles weren't allowed to be thrown on and players stepping off for a drink and a chat weren't allowed back on til ref said so. Mass player huddles were also stopped. It worked and injury related time added on virtually disappeared. It also failed because the top divisions refused to trial it and playing after lockdown resulted in a more liberal approach to water and injury breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mark said: Yes agree with this but won't happen as Hennigan will get exposed for lack of pace. I've thought his best games for us was as a right back, but I wouldn't have him anywhere near a right wing back Who is Hennigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Reesh said: Who is Hennigan 😂😂 As soon as I sent that I thought someone might mention it👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Reesh said: Iorfa has gone. Get rid This, far too many injuries in too short a time has caught up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I nipped for a piss when their keeper went down, when I got back, the scoreboard suggested Palmer had come on which I presumed was for Iorfa which I was pretty pleased about...which should tell you how shit Iorfa was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Iorfa as central in a 3 would scare the crap out of me. He showed yesterday he can’t stay with a man, his first touch is very often than not awful too. I said during the game yesterday if he’s going to play in a back three he’d be better deployed wide. His pace is an asset on both sides of the half way line. But the decision making once he gets into those positions seems to have eluded him. It’s a shame, but it seems that we missed a trick turning Watford away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Iorfa as central in a 3 would scare the crap out of me. He showed yesterday he can’t stay with a man, his first touch is very often than not awful too. I said during the game yesterday if he’s going to play in a back three he’d be better deployed wide. His pace is an asset on both sides of the half way line. But the decision making once he gets into those positions seems to have eluded him. It’s a shame, but it seems that we missed a trick turning Watford away Yes you could well be right. Tbf to him BEFORE his injury he was excellent for us, give him a bit more time as he was out for ages. As said on different thread, for me his best games have been as a right back, not many going to out run/muscle him. I think he'd work as 1 of 2 CHs but that looks unlikely. Moore has signed 2 out and out defenders. Fine. But he's asking them to play out from the back. Not strong points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Portsmouth were there for the taking in the first half but all we did was play nice neat triangles on the flanks then pass it across the back . We created nothing apart from the goal and one other chance deflected for a corner . Moore has to take responsibiliy for the defencive issuses . Wigan scored similar goals and Moore complained of defencive lapses but has obviously done nothing to remedy it . . But we were caught in possession too much , gave the ball away far to often & passed the ball to a clearly marked player when there was another player in space . There seemed to be no sense of urgency till they went in front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Not wishing to pile in the Stockdale debate, but what the fuck was that quick clearance he did second half straight to no one but them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 5 hours ago, bricat said: A goalkeeper's size/appearance is not indicative of his agility or ability. One of the best I have seen, Neville Southall, always looked like he'd done a shift on the dustbins in Llandudno. Mark Crossley too didn't win slimmer of the year either. Tommy Lawrence, bri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Pre-season, Darren Moore mentioned that he wanted us to be able to adapt to multiple formations. In the second half Danny Cowley made sure Pompey pressed up on our wing backs, which eventually got them the freedom of the left side. This should have been dealt with by switching to a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. Johnson went missing from his defensive duties and so often, they had 2 on one. Reece James should have been the substitution when they equalised to stop the spaces from opening up (think he was on the subs bench). Had Pompey not sat back to try and grind a 3-2 win, they would have probably won that game as they would definitely have scored one or two more. Defensively we were all over the shop second half, after Portsmouth stopped trying to play through the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Tommy Lawrence, bri? Adam Blacklaw too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Kiwi Owl said: Pre-season, Darren Moore mentioned that he wanted us to be able to adapt to multiple formations. In the second half Danny Cowley made sure Pompey pressed up on our wing backs, which eventually got them the freedom of the left side. This should have been dealt with by switching to a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. Johnson went missing from his defensive duties and so often, they had 2 on one. Reece James should have been the substitution when they equalised to stop the spaces from opening up (think he was on the subs bench). Had Pompey not sat back to try and grind a 3-2 win, they would have probably won that game as they would definitely have scored one or two more. Defensively we were all over the shop second half, after Portsmouth stopped trying to play through the middle. James was on the bench, and he and Vaulks got up, were ready to come on, but yet DM decided to not bring them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: James was on the bench, and he and Vaulks got up, were ready to come on, but yet DM decided to not bring them on. Did he forget you can have five subs now? Cowley used four and Moore only made two. I think DM gets too engrossed in the game to make the right decisions, sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 14 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: James was on the bench, and he and Vaulks got up, were ready to come on, but yet DM decided to not bring them on. Did we score in the meantime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Otto_Man Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 21 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Did we score in the meantime? We did, but he loves to fuck about with it, Smith was stood there for about 5 mins and the ball went out of play at least twice before he was brought on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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