HappyOwl Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 That tackle by Famewo though 😍😍😍😍 the more I see it the better it gets he’s miles behind him when he sets off Dawson no where near getting back and he slides in 🙌🙌🙌🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Snap said: Didn't he put his finger up to Dawson to tell him you owe me one? Didn’t see that he’s right though if he did 🙌🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Tylluan said: We need to get him on at least another year as he's already been looked at by other clubs Am pretty sure that's why he's only on a one year contract. I can't imagine that was our idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Andyben said: Is Vasquez on a yoof loan? He's 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Am pretty sure that's why he's only on a one year contract. I can't imagine that was our idea. Him getting a good move isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it will encourage more players in the same situation to come here. If we are going to be sustainable, then this is the sort of thing we need to be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boracic Lint said: Him getting a good move isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it will encourage more players in the same situation to come here. If we are going to be sustainable, then this is the sort of thing we need to be doing. Only compared with him not coming here in the first place but I know what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boracic Lint Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Only compared with him not coming here in the first place but I know what you mean. We need young players who come here for the opportunity to progress, not old players who are only here because we're the only mugs going to pay them what they're getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) The clubs looking at Bernard are Championship clubs and none of them are currently in contention for promotion. As good as he's looking in our team he's not PL standard. There's footballing reasons why Man Utd sent him out to Hull and Portsmouth and no other higher club took him when he was released. Edited November 5, 2023 by Tylluan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 He isn’t 24 until October so believe if he did move at the end of his contract then we’d be due some sort of fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, Gamblor said: He isn’t 24 until October so believe if he did move at the end of his contract then we’d be due some sort of fee. Difference between Bernard and someone like Urhoghide is Bernard signed as a first team squad member. He runs his contract down then he walks for nothing. Urhoghide signed initially as an u21 so we could claim academy association to get Celtic to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: Difference between Bernard and someone like Urhoghide is Bernard signed as a first team squad member. He runs his contract down then he walks for nothing. Urhoghide signed initially as an u21 so we could claim academy association to get Celtic to pay. But is that free transfer only if he goes abroad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 No. Can only pre-sign for non English team from Jan, sign for anyone for free in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Gamblor said: But is that free transfer only if he goes abroad? Sorry mate I don't think you're getting it. We got fees for Shaw and Urhoghide (and the two lads who recently went to Brentford B) because they were 'developed' by us through our academy system and the u21s. We've had no input into Bernard's development as he came to us as a full first teamer. If he'd turned down a Man Utd contract to become a free agent then we'd have owed them about a million but they released him so they didn't collect anything. If a player has spent time in a club youth development system and turns down the offer of a contract to become a free agent then the parent club is entitled to recoup some of the coaching and development costs. The amount depends on time spent and academy category. That's why we got around £300k for Shaw but only around half of that for Urhoghide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 He'll stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Shaw, Urghogide, Hayden White, George Hirst... never exactly pulled up many trees after they left. I wouldn't sweat it just yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 05/11/2023 at 13:27, Snap said: Didn't he put his finger up to Dawson to tell him you owe me one? He'll need Dingle fingers if Dawson stays No1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Andyben said: He'll stay Not if we go down, he won't. (That's not me forecasting that we will, btw.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Bannans Red Card overturned !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 FFS just when you think the season can't get any worse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Bannans Red Card overturned !! Bloody hell! That's amazed me!! Thought they'd give us a deduction for asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Bannans Red Card overturned !! Was never a red. but still amazed it got overturned joke though as it probably cost us at least a point, they were there for the taking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 We're being cheated by inept/corrupt officials far too often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Was never a red. but still amazed it got overturned joke though as it probably cost us at least a point, they were there for the taking That’s the bit that always gets me about this. It cost us at least a point but nothing happens about that. I’m not saying you should replay the game but some sort of acknowledgement would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 So there's an error, which arguably could be said to have cost us the game. Yet the ref will go unpunished, and carry on this weekend like all is well and he can just basically say 'soz lads' and it'll be over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 We have the same number of points as we did at kick off so I'm not sure how it has cost us points What we saw after the red card has no bearing whatsoever on what we would have seen if it hadn't been given We might have got something, we might have still lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: So there's an error, which arguably could be said to have cost us the game. Yet the ref will go unpunished, and carry on this weekend like all is well and he can just basically say 'soz lads' and it'll be over with. This, it is so frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, JBO said: We have the same number of points as we did at kick off so I'm not sure how it has cost us points What we saw after the red card has no bearing whatsoever on what we would have seen if it hadn't been given We might have got something, we might have still lost You know what I'm saying, a decision like that which is now said to be wrong, has the potential to limit our chances of picking up any points from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: So there's an error, which arguably could be said to have cost us the game. Yet the ref will go unpunished, and carry on this weekend like all is well and he can just basically say 'soz lads' and it'll be over with. Correct, apart from the highlighted part... There is ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF THAT HAPPENING. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: You know what I'm saying, a decision like that which is now said to be wrong, has the potential to limit our chances of picking up any points from the game. Yes. But it also might not have done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, JBO said: Yes. But it also might not have done True but the team with the extra man have an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Bannans Red Card overturned !! Sorry guys misread the press release !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: True but the team with the extra man have an advantage. Of course but football is the single most unpredictable sport yet people continually fall over themselves to say something would definitely have happened if something else hadn't Pure conjecture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, JBO said: Of course but football is the single most unpredictable sport yet people continually fall over themselves to say something would definitely have happened if something else hadn't Pure conjecture Agreed but indisputably the bad decision handed Bristol an unfair advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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