KrolMong Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Quite a few boxing pundits are hoping that Dubois retires Miller. I do think that Dubois is a bit of hype job who will always lose when he fights people who are even gatekeepers to world level. But Miller is a full weight idiot and a fairly shit boxer too, so I am hoping for a nasty KO. The rest of the card is full of decent matchups. Wilder v Parker is a good test for Wilder, Joshua v Wallin will be a good test for AJ because Wallin is a horrible opponent to match up against. The Bivol and Opetaia fights should be routine wins for the two champs. Miller v Dubois will be fun while it lasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 As for Usyk v Fury. Fury sees him as a threat, and uses the verbal jabs as motivation. This is actually what Fury does in the lead up to any tough fight. This means that Fury will be motivated which means he will prepare properly. On paper it is Fury’s to lose… But, Usyk is physically, mentally and technically a monster. Every single asset that elite boxers have, he has. So, can he come up with a plan to work around Fury’s size and skill set? I said the other day that Usyk is very capable of dropping Fury, but I am not convinced that Fury can drop an elusive Usyk who also has a granite chin - but, if he puts his body on him and can manoeuvre him at his own speed, then Usyk will have a very hard night. Regardless. It genuinely is a 50:50 fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Thoroughly enjoyed Joseph Parker give Wilder a lesson on how to box properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 23 hours ago, Kiwi Owl said: Thoroughly enjoyed Joseph Parker give Wilder a lesson on how to box properly. Really enjoyed that night of boxing, was thrilled to see Dubois shut Miller up, that was a great finish by him. Bivol totally outclassed Arther, showed what a top Champion he is. The fight that really surprised me was Parker vs Wilder, Parker was simply outstanding from minute 1, had a game plan & executed it perfectly, Wilder was looking for that right hand from the moment he got in the ring, for me at 38, he's had his time, he's earnt his money, go & enjoy retirement, he doesn't want to be remembered for going onto long & losing to an absolute no body. Joshua looked good, best I've seen him box since the 2nd Ruiz fight, Otto Walin didn't really get going or produce much, I weren't impressed with him at all, was expecting more from him considering how far he took Fury in that fight. I can't see Joshua vs Wilder now, I can imagine Joshua will fight the winner of Fury vs Usyk or the big Croatian (can't remember his name) & also I'd imagine Zang is also in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Fury v Usyk off. The cut that Fury has got looks horrific, but, the boxing fraternity have suggested it might not go ahead for two weeks now, as Fury has been taking a pasting in sparring. Unless Usyk fights Hrgovic, it’s also the end of the undisputed dream as the IBF were stripping winner on the 18th. It looks like if Fury doesn’t fight before the end of May he will lose the WBC and Usyk will be given mandatory. I’ve read somewhere that it’s the 12th Tyson Fury fight that has either been postponed or he’s pulled out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Looks like that cut Rocky gets from his corner cos he can't see out of his eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Buatsi v Azeez will be some feyt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 13 hours ago, Tylluan said: Looks like that cut Rocky gets from his corner cos he can't see out of his eye It's been said for last coupla months Fury would pull out - low & behold here it is. Been reading that he's being knocked about for fun in sparring so it doesn't surprise me that this was the result & my gut tells me that we won't see Fury vs Usyk. It's a massive shame that the demons haunting Tyson curtails his career as I think we seem to talk about is out the ring activities more than we do in the ring.....you've only got to watch the Fury Documentary on Netflix to see that when boxing is taken away from him, we won't see him around for much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Rescheduled for May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 AJ vs Ngannou tonight. Fight expected to start around 11pm. What are peoples thoughts on tonight? Personally think AJ will win it on points & will be far more convincing than the Fury points win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 That’s Ngannou finished as a boxer. AJ destroyed him and I mean destroyed him. Ngannou as soon as he took the right hand, he became a novice. Reacting to flinches, crossing arms, square on. Obliterated him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 13 hours ago, KrolMong said: That’s Ngannou finished as a boxer. AJ destroyed him and I mean destroyed him. Ngannou as soon as he took the right hand, he became a novice. Reacting to flinches, crossing arms, square on. Obliterated him. Joshua absolutely nailed him, that was 1 of the cleanest shots I think I've witnessed whilst watching live, it was unreal Ngannou was living off the Fury fight, soon as Joshua hit him the first time & he landed on his arse you could see in his eyes he was done. He has made an absolute fortune in these last 2 fights which has probably set him up for life, walk away now before he seriously gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 That wasn't a fight on Friday, it was an absolute example that you don't fuck about with a professional boxer who's looking to get back to what he was. Not like Fury who took it as a cash cow fight. (And by all accounts did well on that score, but not so much on the 'judges' scorecard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 14 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: That wasn't a fight on Friday, it was an absolute example that you don't fuck about with a professional boxer who's looking to get back to what he was. Not like Fury who took it as a cash cow fight. (And by all accounts did well on that score, but not so much on the 'judges' scorecard) Tyson (apparently) got nearly £50m for a nights work against Ngannou. Johua made £50m also. Ngannou made £10m vs Fury & then £20m vs Joshua. Absolutely obscene money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 That was a step up in class and Dalton wasn't fazed, some fucking body shot that to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Reesh said: That was a step up in class and Dalton wasn't fazed, some fucking body shot that to end it. That was an absolute beaut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said: That was an absolute beaut! Sublime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 He’s ready for a world title shot. That was a guy it took Regis Prograis 11 rounds to get rid of. It wasn’t even a particularly risky shot that put the guy away. Interesting that Eddie Hearn didn’t seem particularly happy about Dalton calling out Azim. He’s probably right. It would be nice for him to pick up a European title, but at this stage of his career he needs to aim higher. Azim is not ranked in the top 15 by any world title body, he’s less of a name than Zepeda on the other side of the pond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 27 minutes ago, owl71 said: Azim is not ranked in the top 15 by any world title body, he’s less of a name than Zepeda on the other side of the pond. Do they do it alphabetically? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Other points to consider… With Haney, Lopez, Garcia and Prograis, there is a hell of a lot of talent in that division. If he waits for an easy route to a world title he’ll be waiting a long time. Dalton is 27. That is still young enough to challenge for a world title, lose and learn from it. Very few fighters who lose their first fight after 30 come back better. In fact I’m struggling to think of any. Even a close defeat against any of the four guys mentioned above would leave him making a lot more money for future fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 He’s not remotely ready for a world title shot. He’s not fought any of the current top 15, and he’s only in the top 15 in one of the orgs. But, he will start climbing the ladder and he will step up the opposition. It might take him 6 fights to get a mandatory position and he needs to start fighting ranked fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, KrolMong said: He’s not remotely ready for a world title shot. He’s not fought any of the current top 15, and he’s only in the top 15 in one of the orgs. But, he will start climbing the ladder and he will step up the opposition. It might take him 6 fights to get a mandatory position and he needs to start fighting ranked fighters. He can only beat what Eddie puts in front of him but he looked good last night, he took a couple of rounds to take stock of Zepeda then he systematically took him apart which ended with a brutal, planned, body shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 He’s got potential to get to the top table. But it’s a horrible division to be in. Just look at the British fighters in there, you’ve got Catterall and Taylor. And those on the top table now are not just great, but elite. It would be good to see him in with someone like Ohara Davies or Sandor Martin next. Decent step up in class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, KrolMong said: He’s got potential to get to the top table. But it’s a horrible division to be in. Just look at the British fighters in there, you’ve got Catterall and Taylor. And those on the top table now are not just great, but elite. It would be good to see him in with someone like Ohara Davies or Sandor Martin next. Decent step up in class. Yeah it is a fucking ridiculous division and commentary said the same as you, there's some elite level fighters in it, not just world class but a level above that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Sandor Martin is a decent shout as a stepping stone to a world title. He’s been in with world class opposition, and he’s highly ranked by the WBC. Ohara Davies is 32 and just got knocked out by a 41 year old Venezuelan. Dalton would gain nothing by beating him, well other than more experience. He can’t wait forever. He will never get a world title shot against anybody he’s a strong favourite against, the division is just too good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Interestingly enough, Adam Azeem and Ben Shalom are doing their level best to avoid Dalton. Him and Harlem Eubank had a head to head last night and Shalom made a comment about Smith’s age and experience. Azeem potentially is a superstar, but, the avoidance of smith at this stage is not helping his cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Superb fight between Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney last night. Garcia’s post fight interview was entertaining as well 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 It was a cracker. I feared for Garcia due to his unhinged behaviour this past 5 months and the wild stuff that’s happened this fight week, and the fact that he blew the weight. But, he was really good last night, hurt Haney multiple times. I genuinely think that the ref could have counted more knock downs, should have taken at least 2 points off Haney and had good reason to pull Haney out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 So… this is the big one. Fury v Usyk. I have flip flopped between the two of them. At the minute, I think Fury does it because he looks in top shape and very very motivated. But, Usyk is an absolute elite fighter, a much better boxer than Fury. I am currently under the old phrase that a good big un beats a good little un. I’m actually watching it with a couple of Ukrainian lads from one of my football teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 If Fury stays technical and dances behind the jab then he wins. Usyk will be elusive to start with but Fury should eventually find the range if he doesn't get frustrated and starts a brawl first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 @Tylluan I'll go with Fury by 8 rounds. Knockout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said: @Tylluan I'll go with Fury by 8 rounds. Knockout. What a boxing match of 2 halves..... Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) Uysk 2-1 Edited May 18 by Skamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Wow wow wow wow!! Undisputed Champion Uysk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 3 minutes ago, Skamp said: Uysk 2-1 Personally thought it was a draw Skamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 14 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: Personally thought it was a draw Skamp Scrap that...... I'm wrong. Usyk won that in round 9.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Wow. I’ll have to watch that again sober. Fury did not fight how I expected. He did not focus on the body. He didn’t do much holding. He tried to outbox Usyk in exchanges. For a while he had success, using his reach to have the last word with hooks and upper cuts. Usyk made the adjustments he needed to make, and proved his greatness tonight beyond any doubt. Had it 115-112 Usyk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 5 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said: Undisputed Champion Uysk Not for long. Usyk will be stripped of the IBF belt so Hrgovic and Dubois can fight for it in June, with Joshua lined up to fight the winner late September. Might be another two years before there's another undisputed opportunity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 4 hours ago, owl71 said: Wow. I’ll have to watch that again sober. Fury did not fight how I expected. He did not focus on the body. He didn’t do much holding. He tried to outbox Usyk in exchanges. For a while he had success, using his reach to have the last word with hooks and upper cuts. Usyk made the adjustments he needed to make, and proved his greatness tonight beyond any doubt. Had it 115-112 Usyk. Fury was too busy showboating instead of concentrating on the job on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 4 hours ago, owl71 said: Wow. I’ll have to watch that again sober. Fury did not fight how I expected. He did not focus on the body. He didn’t do much holding. He tried to outbox Usyk in exchanges. For a while he had success, using his reach to have the last word with hooks and upper cuts. Usyk made the adjustments he needed to make, and proved his greatness tonight beyond any doubt. Had it 115-112 Usyk. 33 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: Fury was too busy showboating instead of concentrating on the job on hand. This for me. He had Usyk in a lot of trouble in round 5 with the body shots, then stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 It wasn’t that Fury stopped targeting the body, but that Usyk adjusted his feet, closed the gap quicker, and stepped around his arms. You won’t have seen this, but Usyk got a bollocking in the corner after round 6 because he was walking Fury down in straight lines and it allowed to land the body shot to get Usyks hands down, and then double jab. This is indicative of how Usyk fights. He’s just elite in the second half of a fight because he makes the adjustments needed to get control. In the second half of round 7 and 8, he knew how to apply the right pressure and to avoid the fire from Fury. And, he also worked out that right hook was there for him, which is what led to the near stoppage in 9. But, incredible fight, two absolute elite heavies at the top of there game putting on a masterclass that had it all. I had Usyk winning by 2, but I felt with the knockdown he’d done enough to win. And he genuinely did take control of the second half of the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Yep. Now the dust has settled, and I’ve had the chance to watch it back, I concur with the above. Excellent fight, with both fighters showing intelligent boxing, and also heart and physical toughness. They’re both guys that have that intangible quality, which is the ability to figure out how to win. The ultimate difference was Usyk just has a bigger box of tricks than Fury. He’s a better inside fighter. He’s got a better defence, and faster reflexes. When it came down to figuring out how to win…he just had more to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 21/04/2024 at 11:01, KrolMong said: It was a cracker. I feared for Garcia due to his unhinged behaviour this past 5 months and the wild stuff that’s happened this fight week, and the fact that he blew the weight. But, he was really good last night, hurt Haney multiple times. I genuinely think that the ref could have counted more knock downs, should have taken at least 2 points off Haney and had good reason to pull Haney out of there. But late to this but I didn't realise that I know Ryan Garcia's manager, Lupe. He acted for a client of mine when he was living in LA and he mentioned being with Lupe and RG this week after the Fury fight. One of the most outrageous stories/events I've ever had to deal with happened a few years ago with Lupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Anybody watch the Taylor vs Catterall fight? What a cracking punch up that was, both boxers giving there all but yet again, the judges took centre stage.... Don't get me wrong Catterall won the fight but having 2 judges score it 117-111 is a joke, no way did Catterall win that by 6 clear rounds, the fight was a damn sight closer than that, I had Catterall winning by 2 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 2 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said: Anybody watch the Taylor vs Catterall fight? What a cracking punch up that was, both boxers giving there all but yet again, the judges took centre stage.... Don't get me wrong Catterall won the fight but having 2 judges score it 117-111 is a joke, no way did Catterall win that by 6 clear rounds, the fight was a damn sight closer than that, I had Catterall winning by 2 rounds. Yeah it was a good fight and the scorecard were a bit wide but I too had Catterall by 3/4 rounds, how Bob Arum spoke that shit after is beyond me and Bellew chats shit too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Hagler v Duran just starting on Sky Sports Arena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Usyk v Fury part II this December apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, Skamp said: Usyk v Fury part II this December apparently. 21st December - my Birthday - Happy Days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 This weekend..... Matchroom vs Queensbury Hearn vs Warren 5 on 5 Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 On 29/05/2024 at 17:39, owl4ever1867 said: This weekend..... Matchroom vs Queensbury Hearn vs Warren 5 on 5 Can't wait! Cracking card. I am away in Gdańsk this weekend and have found somewhere that is showing it. Slightly disappointed we are not getting Bivol v Beterbiev, but all 5 on 5 fights are very competitive. Really looking forward to the Ball, Hrgovic and Wilder fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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