Gleadless Owl Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 hours ago, KrolMong said: But, none of the forward players offered anything, and that includes the subs. Gregory scored with his only real chance and had little support from midfield. Delgado wasn't a threat, but I thought he showed a few glimpses of what he might be capable of once he adapts. Musaba offered nothing? Looks like he's got skill and pace and totally different to anything we've seen for years based on tonight. Fletcher looks more mobile and more physical than Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) Like most of you I’ve come away last night not feeling too down hearted. We lost to 2 well taken goals and against a team whose likely to lose a few before the window shuts and whose value is light years ahead of ours. Also consider we lost Byers in middle before kick off and 10 of 11 played a totally different system for 1 whole season if not 2 then yes am fine with the defeat. One scary factor was the 6 + 9 minutes extra time on the field. Now that serious value for you tickets prices but going to be costly for those 5:30 train back to Sheffield away days lol. Edited August 5, 2023 by EBRA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12933926/did-the-pgmol-directives-benefit-the-flow-of-the-opening-efl-match-of-the-season Interesting bit about not trying to use technology to influence a decision. Will be interesting to see how long all this lasts ref was under pressure last night in my opinion to perform in front of the cameras with the rest of the world watching. Plus the fact he has a bit of controversy attached to himself as well. 😳😳 https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37633248/bobby-madley-return-premier-league-referee-four-years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, EBRA said: Like most of you I’ve come away last night not feeling too down hearted. We lost to 2 well taken goals and against a team whose likely to lose a few before the window shuts and whose value is light years ahead of ours. Also consider we lost Byers in middle before kick off and 10 of 11 played a totally different system for 1 whole season if not 2 then yes am fine with the defeat. One scary factor was the 6 + 9 minutes extra time on the field. Now that serious value for you tickets prices but going to be costly for those 5:30 train back to Sheffield away days lol. I still couldn’t work out we’re those extra minutes came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Bummed a dog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 53 minutes ago, Andyben said: Bummed a dog He’s not Keith Lard 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 The first half additional time was a complete joke. No injuries, ok a few free kicks and yellow cards and Dawson may have extended goal kicks a bit, but I said 2 minutes max. I really do get why it was needed as it was becoming ridiculous, but you do not want to do stupid the other way either. Games seem to elapse 2 hours from kick off as a norm, be dragging out to 5.15 for a 3pm ko before long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 Well, as others have said, I thought we’d be absolutely smashed to bits after that first 20 mins. They were so good with the ball and the trio of Walker Peters, Tella and Ward Prowse were nothing short of fantastic without it too. In the second half we were much better and it happened as we seemed to step up the intensity in closing the ball down. I mean, give internationals like Ward Prowse all the time in the world, you’ll get hurt. We got a lot closer to him and the others and it showed. We deserved our goal and rattled them for a while.I thought that Smallbone for them was excellent too. Musaba looks like he’s going to be an exciting one, Delgado grew into the game, I thought Famewo did well and Pato too aside from the mix ups with his new teammate. If there’s anyone better than that in the Championahip against us this season then, we’re going to see something special. As I was very impressed with them. Only worry for me was the lack of chances created. BUT. We had one early doors lashed over, and Gregory scored. I do think Musaba will create some though. It’s work in progress and I think we progressed a little in the game last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 It is hard to judge, were Southampton brilliant in that first 20 minutes or did we make them look brilliant. Those players last year got the run around at times, so it was no surprise that the higher quality players for Southampton did it with ease. And I think plenty of other sides could easily do the same. We were fortunate that Martin's teams lack a killer instinct. If the midfield is not strengthened then we are never going to take control of games and be in position to create chances. Like many I was not disheartened but equally we cannot gloss over some notable lack of quality 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: It is hard to judge, were Southampton brilliant in that first 20 minutes or did we make them look brilliant. Those players last year got the run around at times, so it was no surprise that the higher quality players for Southampton did it with ease. And I think plenty of other sides could easily do the same. We were fortunate that Martin's teams lack a killer instinct. If the midfield is not strengthened then we are never going to take control of games and be in position to create chances. Like many I was not disheartened but equally we cannot gloss over some notable lack of quality The biggest takeaway is we need, more than ever, a proper bastard in there. Especially in this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: The biggest takeaway is we need, more than ever, a proper bastard in there. Especially in this system. This. Pato went through Ward Prowse toward the end of the first half and he didn't fancy it for the rest of the half after that. Which is what we should have been doing from the off. On reflection I think last night could have been the right game at the right time, that first 20 mins shows DC just how far off we are. The strength in depth in that Southampton squad was frightening, I think any one of those players walks straight into the starting 11 of any of the three sides that went up from this league last season. Also Walker-Peters - up until about three days ago he was their 2nd choice right back... frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBRA Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Winco said: I still couldn’t work out we’re those extra minutes came from. Oh agree!! Also Dawson got a yellow for time wasting - Stockdale tactics are fucked in this now era ! As a team and supporters we’ve got to gear up for minimum extra 15 mins per game now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, EBRA said: Oh agree!! Also Dawson got a yellow for time wasting - Stockdale tactics are fucked in this now era ! As a team and supporters we’ve got to gear up for minimum extra 15 mins per game now. That yellow was ridiculous. The subs were just walking onto the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Missed Byers. Missed Neymarv on left. Need to try Valentin ar RB Mistake moving Musaba out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 James ward prowse Your just a shit Barry Bannan 😂😂😂😂 Love football me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 Some talking points from a local journo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, Andyben said: Missed Byers. Missed Neymarv on left. Need to try Valentin ar RB Mistake moving Musaba out wide. Any side would miss Byers. Neymarv, crossing ability is a miss, but I can’t see Windass playing anywhere else under Xisco currently. Valentin I think will be the RB. Just not quite ready. Musaba I think can and will move between the positions. His impact almost instantly down the middle was exciting, but he had a run a little later from the right hand side taking a couple on and crossing which was cleared. But he showed what I want, a player who’s not afraid to run at a man and has pace. It’s been a while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Windass as a 10 gains a player to get past the 9(Gregory or Fletcher), but lose Bannans ability on the ball so we'd have to concentrate on wing play (out and in) And have a two of Vaulks and Byers in middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 I don’t like having one up top right now, and I agree he’s more effective or he been, floating around behind the top striker whoever that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 Must say.. I really enjoyed being back at Hillsborough last night, just getting back to the football. No negativity, just watching the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 What happened to the protest that the Twitter (sorry, X) lot were organising? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On Paterson, did well but played like he was "doing a job" due to injuries in squad. Got violated a few times and I thought was nailed on for a red or to be hooked at H/T. We simply can't have players fill in in this league and need specialists, so has to be one of Valentin or Delgado each game in that position. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 If we're sticking with 4-2-3-1 then there's a few players gonna be kicking their heels come match day. Smith & Wilks are gonna have splinters unless he mixes it up and plays two forwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 16 hours ago, Chelters said: What happened to the protest that the Twitter (sorry, X) lot were organising? Booooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 brother in law is a Saints fan, reckons at least 5 of their current squad will be gone by the end of the window. Just the luck of the fixture draw we got them when we did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 21 hours ago, Chelters said: What happened to the protest that the Twitter (sorry, X) lot were organising? When we were queuing to get in, some bloke underneath the south near the directors entrance chanted "Get out of our club" twice, then what just sounded like noise, but I presume was supposed to be Dejphon Chansiri and then another "get out of our club". All to the tune of "he's one of our own" which I found ironically amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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