Andyben Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Hi Trevor 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: DC has always held an 'open door' policy for fans with ideas to move the club forward and, judging by the write ups, he reiterates this at every supporters clubs forum he holds. The Trust originally had a couple of half decent ideas but dropped them for the 'community club' approach and went rabid when the club refused to hold Darby and Joan bingo in the 1867 lounge. Maybe it is time for OO to gain an audience. I'm sure we're being monitored by the club, as they trawl through social media, but that would show this site is balanced. Members on here have the passion but also the professional capacity to talk to the club on a sane level with no agenda other than what's best for all. We're probably the only fans group currently worth talking to that would give an honest and fair view of our experiences and expectations. You only have to look at the posts on each thread to know that. I'm sure an audience with MK, Hoyland, King Mong, yourself and even Reesh if he doesn't call DC a c@nt would gleen more than any of the other forums and meetings. I did email Liam Dooley a couple of days ago just saying that hope they do not take the hate filled ramblings of Stalk and Twitter as a true barometer and suggested a visit here for a more balanced level headed view. Edited July 15, 2023 by Hirstys 12th Pint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: I'm sure an audience with MK, Hoyland, King Mong, yourself and even Reesh if he doesn't call DC a c@nt would gleen more than any of the other forums and meetings. I did email Liam Dooley a couple of days ago just saying that hope they do not take the hate filled ramblings of Stalk and Twitter as a true barometer and suggested a visit here for a more balanced level headed view. I said to myself a bit back that I wouldn’t get deeply involved again. But if there’s a hunger for this, then I will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: I said to myself a bit back that I wouldn’t get deeply involved again. But if there’s a hunger for this, then I will. I think people who don’t want to go to those meetings are better suited to it than the ones that do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Tylluan said: DC has always held an 'open door' policy for fans with ideas to move the club forward and, judging by the write ups, he reiterates this at every supporters clubs forum he holds. The Trust originally had a couple of half decent ideas but dropped them for the 'community club' approach and went rabid when the club refused to hold Darby and Joan bingo in the 1867 lounge. Maybe it is time for OO to gain an audience. I'm sure we're being monitored by the club, as they trawl through social media, but that would show this site is balanced. Members on here have the passion but also the professional capacity to talk to the club on a sane level with no agenda other than what's best for all. We're probably the only fans group currently worth talking to that would give an honest and fair view of our experiences and expectations. You only have to look at the posts on each thread to know that. I look forward to the natty line of Swfc logo cardigans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I look forward to the natty line of Swfc logo cardigans Might have a copyright issue with the 'Cardi T' range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I look forward to the natty line of Swfc logo cardigans At my age I'd be up for that. As long as it was cable knit with those big buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: I'm sure an audience with MK, Hoyland, King Mong, yourself and even Reesh if he doesn't call DC a c@nt would gleen more than any of the other forums and meetings. I did email Liam Dooley a couple of days ago just saying that hope they do not take the hate filled ramblings of Stalk and Twitter as a true barometer and suggested a visit here for a more balanced level headed view. In that case, on the off chance he does look on here.. Chansiri out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: In that case, on the off chance he does look on here.. Chansiri out I’m starting an event on Facebook it’s called let’s get 30k against Stockport cos it’s probably going to be £10 a ticket so where are all the Mithering Fannie’s that complain about ticket prices 😡😡😡😡 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Just to randomly pick up on an earlier point, I genuinely don't believe that the quality of merchandise in the club shop has ever been better. It's not cheap, but it's far better quality than I ever remember it being before 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I am going to start another group called Chansiri Okey Cokey For those not sure if they want him in or out But we like to shake it all about Which is vital once you are middle aged 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: I'm sure an audience with MK, Hoyland, King Mong, yourself and even Reesh if he doesn't call DC a c@nt would gleen more than any of the other forums and meetings. I did email Liam Dooley a couple of days ago just saying that hope they do not take the hate filled ramblings of Stalk and Twitter as a true barometer and suggested a visit here for a more balanced level headed view. If this could be done remotely, I’d be interested in speaking with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, KrolMong said: If this could be done remotely, I’d be interested in speaking with him. Would he listen though KM? The amount of nob heads he grants audiences with he must think we’re all numpties. obviously your not but can you imagine what DC is thinking now about our fanbase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greno Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Winco said: Would he listen though KM? The amount of nob heads he grants audiences with he must think we’re all numpties. obviously your not but can you imagine what DC is thinking now about our fanbase! I guess he's not a Reverand and the Makers fan, but then again who is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyOwl Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Kin ell caused a reet shitstorm on Facebook I only asked if we’d sold out for Luton at home £10 a ticket and £40 for a family of 4. I will get mi coat 😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 That clown Jon McClure says he could run the club better, we'd have one half decent game and live off it for the next two decades. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Unless he's sold 250m albums this year he's not gonna get the chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Winco said: Would he listen though KM? The amount of nob heads he grants audiences with he must think we’re all numpties. obviously your not but can you imagine what DC is thinking now about our fanbase! I agree with you. When I was really vocal about “Allen Out” I had Ashley Carson contact me directly and invite me to SWFC - and to be fair I found him a really decent bloke and we became friends. I also met with Lee Strafford when he was Chairman. When I look back on all of that now I’m embarrassed and I also wonder why either of them gave me the time of day (never met with Dave Allen, he chose to (unsuccessfully) sue me instead). No supporters should ever become involved in the day to day running of the club, unless they put their money where their mouth is. When I met with Ashley Carson and Lee Strafford I was quite a prominent poster on this site (and Owlstalk) and I was very vocal about the club, and a very critical one at that - but I always tried to give a rationale and what I felt were valid reasons for my criticism and never did so just to curry favour or stir up trouble. Looking back it’s now very evident to me that my posts must have been taken seriously by the club and they must have felt I had some sort of influence over supporters opinions of the club. I didn’t and I don’t think I ever did, I just posted on what I observed and what I felt at the time - but to get to the point of my post, when I did meet with Ashley Carson and Lee Strafford, both explained what was happening at the club, why it was happening and the rationale behind it. Both meetings were about trying to get me to understand things, not for me to have any influence on how the club was run, and even though I wasn’t on the same page as them with everything, what they felt was best for the club was what mattered, not the opinion of some no mark owlsonline/Owlstalk poster like me. I still think Dave Allen and Lee Strafford did nothing to take the club forward and that my doubts about them were, in the end, substantiated, but unlike me they tried and, I believe, wanted the best for SWFC - but they had too much of a focus on what supporters like me were thinking and saying at the time, which made them take their eye off what really mattered, which was the club. I should have been told to feck off in no uncertain terms by both Ashley Carson and Lee Strafford, as at the end of the day I was nothing more than a customer, not a shareholder or director. That’s what Chansiri now needs to do. He’s getting bogged down with dealing with/trying to appease supporters, when what really matters is trying to get a squad of players together which can compete in the Championship this coming season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 God bless Dave Allen, he pinpointed the pricks in our fan base. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, Reesh said: God bless Dave Allen, he pinpointed the pricks in our fan base. Yet somehow he didn’t pinpoint you! 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I will always like the concept of the German football model, but it would only work if all Clubs signed up to the idea, which in the UK they never would. My own time looking at this, scarily now 13 years ago appreciated that finding a position where the fans had a sense of "ownership" to the Club but permitted the executive to run it day to day was nigh on impossible to find. In part this is because the business model of football is fucked. If Clubs had to break even and not permitted to be subsidised by an owner, then fan led ownership could work. However it never will so any owner putting in funds will want full control. Can't blame them for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bellsview said: Yet somehow he didn’t pinpoint you! 😂 That's cos I wasn't writing a tell all book pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 It’s just all a shit show is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: He was on the radio other shouting about how Adam Shaw wants to buy the club but DC won’t entertain it. No idea why he was questioned as to why Adam Shaw put out a statement recently stating that he fully supports DC and didn’t mention anything of a buy out. Bit of a cuntradiction Because he hasn't got th cash to buy that DC wants and Wednesday need. Amended final word for clarity Edited July 16, 2023 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: He was on the radio other shouting about how Adam Shaw wants to buy the club but DC won’t entertain it. No idea why he was questioned as to why Adam Shaw put out a statement recently stating that he fully supports DC and didn’t mention anything of a buy out. Bit of a contradiction Ha ha ha I've tried to bite my tongue regarding Mr McClure but he is showing himself up again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, Reesh said: Ha ha ha I've tried to bite my tongue regarding Mr McClure but he is showing himself up again. So. What you’re saying is you can bite your tongue because he’s making it easy for others to have a go at him/about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraddersTim Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Ha ha ha I've tried to bite my tongue regarding Mr McClure but he is showing himself up again. Dunno, his argument on Twatter with the Right Said Fred weirdos is funny as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, BraddersTim said: Dunno, his argument on Twatter with the Right Said Fred weirdos is funny as fuck I'm not even gonna ask...nor look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Not I guess he's calling people right wing fascists again... Pot kettle eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraddersTim Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Andyben said: Not I guess he's calling people right wing fascists again... Pot kettle eh I'm not taking sides in the debate, it's one where you grab the popcorn and just watch as it is so funny, but lets just say that the Freds don't come out of it very well, not least because one of them is choosing to have this daft argument on Twatter...on his daughters wedding day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 He, JM, is impossible to engage with in any reasonable way. He's like Owlstalk in that sense, you disagree on anything, even if you're 100% correct and it's a block, pile on, or whatever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80s Owl Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 21:24, Andyben said: He, JM, is impossible to engage with in any reasonable way. He's like Owlstalk in that sense, you disagree on anything, even if you're 100% correct and it's a block, pile on, or whatever He's a bully as well, seen many a screenshot of him (and his brother) PM'ing threats to people. I know a Twitter user who offered to knock him the fuck out and McClure said he was calling the police and tried to get the blokes wife involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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