Ivan Toney facing 232 betting breach charges

[Tylluan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63653384

[Otto_Man]

Fairly obvious why he didn't make the England squad now then 😄

[SouthamptonOwl]

He should have tried for sponsorship. 

"Ivan Toney charged with Bet365 betting breaches" would have helped pay his lawyers fees

😁

Edited November 16, 2022 by SouthamptonOwl

[HoylandOwl]

Bradley Wood who played in Lincoln’s FA Cup run to the quarter finals, got banned for SIX years for his betting antics….. 

And it was far less that 200+ breaches. 
So. If Toney is guilty then of his breaches….. What’s that ban going to be?

[Andyben]

None. Different game up  there.

Like I said a while ago, it's OK for the owner of Brentford to make his money betting on football and for betting sponsorship of teams, but not for Toney to stick a grand on Auxerre v Rennes.

Corrupt bastards 

[HoylandOwl]

1 minute ago, holmesfield_owl said:

It depends for me if any of the charges relate to games he was playing in and can influence. Not sure why someone on decent money needs to be trying to make money betting anyway unless there's an addiction issue.

Doesn't matter if it was related to games he was playing in, well, it's pretty clear that footballers can't bet on football.... Ok, SHOULDN'T as per the FA's rules and regs.

[HoylandOwl]

18 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said:

I know the rules, if they were all bets on say Chinese league matches then it's not an issue for me, if it involves clubs he's playing for or the league he's in then that different 

The issue there is, there are so many players that know each other and the rules reflect that. 
Say…. A Chelsea player got into bother for betting on a game in China for example… on the face of it, as you say, it’s on another continent etc there’s no connection. Well…. Oscar was at Chelsea… 

There are opportunities that can be used. And I think it’s better to totally rule it out. 

[HoylandOwl]

Yes. Or they were!

[Winco]

How the fuck have they found out he’s had a flutter? 

[Skamp]

Except some are that thick that they text their mate to put a bet on for them and leave a trail. 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

1 hour ago, Skamp said:

Except some are that thick that they text their mate to put a bet on for them and leave a trail. 

It hasn't held back Paul Merson 

[HoylandOwl]

More charges chucked on….

 

[Beaconowl]

Idiot, if true 

[lobster]

Given the proliferation of Gambling money thrown at premier Leauge clubs - Pot Kettle black comes to mind

[Andyben]

How did the Brentford owner make his money

[HoylandOwl]

He’s pleaded guilty to 262 betting charges against him!

If he doesn’t get a long ban, the jobs fucked. 

[Owling_Wolf]

What a waste of talent this is likely to be.   

🙄

[Tylluan]

33 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

He’s pleaded guilty to 262 betting charges against him!

If he doesn’t get a long ban, the jobs fucked. 

Thing is there doesn't seem to be a sliding scale of sorts. 

Joey Barton got 18 months for over 1200 bets but, last year, two Boston Utd players only picked up 5 months for 757 bets. Most recently Chris Maguire got a paltry 6 weeks for 52 bets. 

If you take the Maguire precedent then Toney will pick up roughly 6 months. If it starts soon then it carries through the close season (the rule is all football activity) and he could be back playing in September. 

[owl71]

Is anyone running a book on how long a ban he gets?  Toney could bet on himself to get a long ban, as a kind of emotional insurance policy.  

[Ozzie]

Wants to start it as soon as possible so some of the time is spent during the Summer when no football is being played. Taking piss. 

He'll be having a little cry next and get away with it. 

 

Happens to Wednesday and the game is over for them

[HoylandOwl]

40 minutes ago, Ozzie said:

Wants to start it as soon as possible so some of the time is spent during the Summer when no football is being played. Taking piss. 

He'll be having a little cry next and get away with it. 

Happens to Wednesday and the game is over for them

Happens to Wednesday and we’d be liquidated

[Skamp]

Oh, fuck it.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Skamp

[Andyben]

He was betting on Brentford matches, allegedly. Think this could be a big problem.
 

 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

He does have a point about the leaking of information, but also how the FA hand out justice in a way that kangaroo courts would find embarrassing.

 

[Winco]

10 minutes ago, BraddersTim said:

His full name is Ivan Benjamin Elijah Toney, making his initials I.B.E.T.

Class 

[Andyben]

8mth ban

[Greno]

Wonder if he had money on it 😁

[Andyben]

Was meant to be 24 months ban but he'd stuck £10k on us to Piss The League and the FA took pity on him 

[Tylluan]

Not being available until next January may have scuppered a lucrative move to Chelsea.

I say may have as he can start training again from mid September and Poch has to weigh up if he's worth the wait. 

[Andyben]

They could do with another forward 

[mkowlthesexynewversion]

The cynical question is why not start it in August - rather than now where he effectively gets 3 months (as do Brentford) with zero impact 

[HoylandOwl]

11 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

The cynical question is why not start it in August - rather than now where he effectively gets 3 months (as do Brentford) with zero impact 

Because then Brentford would do everything to sue the PL and cause a load of shit. 

[Andyben]

Brentford.

Owned by the bloke who set up StatOdds which is a tool for professional football gamblers.

 

[bricat]

Kay, Swan and Layne bet on one match.  Were all jailed and banned from playing for life. I know it was totally wrong but nowadays footballers on mega bucks get sod all punishment by comparison. 

[Skamp]

The difference being though that they bet against us? A game in which they were playing. 

[Andyben]

[bricat]

Agreed the Wednesday 3 bet against the club once , As some confirmed Toney bet on many Brentford games. 

[Ozzie]

15 hours ago, bricat said:

Agreed the Wednesday 3 bet against the club once , As some confirmed Toney bet on many Brentford games. 

Have a cry and you get away with it

[Lee]

22 hours ago, bricat said:

Agreed the Wednesday 3 bet against the club once , As some confirmed Toney bet on many Brentford games. 

And Tony Kay was MOM Bri.

The game wasn't 'thrown' those fellas said that going to Ipswich wasn't easy so to speak. They seem to have been exploited by the undercover stuff going on at the time. The manager had no suspicions at all from the three of them and I know that first hand. 

They were hung out, arguably unfairly given what's dished out now, that said it was a very different era back then!

 

[HappyOwl]

Biggest mistake he made was backing Arsenal to win the league 😉

[Skamp]

I don't think we have any right to joke about Arsenal's bottle job.

[HoylandOwl]

2 minutes ago, Skamp said:

I don't think we have any right to joke about Arsenal's bottle job.

Any way of battering Arsenal works for me. 

[KrolMong]

This is taking a dark turn. The FA have said that Toney bet against his own team to lose. So, there might be some match fixing charges coming which will lead to a much longer ban.

[Reesh]

"The full findings of the investigation into the Brentford striker’s gambling have been published and reveal that Toney bet on himself to score on 15 occasions before it was common knowledge that he would be playing in the games concerned"

[HoylandOwl]

He should be done for with the heaviest hand possible then

 

[Reesh]

3 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

He should be done for with the heaviest hand possible then

 

Why, read the case, rather than post ill informed shit.

[Delseeds]

13 minutes ago, Reesh said:

"The full findings of the investigation into the Brentford striker’s gambling have been published and reveal that Toney bet on himself to score on 15 occasions before it was common knowledge that he would be playing in the games concerned"

Surely he's finished after that... cant see a way back

[HoylandOwl]

2 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Why, read the case, rather than post ill informed shit.

He knows the rules mate, we all do.. He bet on football while being a pro footballer. It's not allowed. 

Until someone is taken to task for it to the fullest extend in the highest profile league we have, it'll keep happening. 

 

[Skamp]

I appreciate that gambling is an addiction and it may well be that he's struggling here but surely there's a red line you don't cross, especially as there's an element of 'insider knowledge and influence'.  Trying not be crass here, but there's enough out there to bet on other than football.

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, Delseeds said:

Surely he's finished after that... cant see a way back

He's first name in Brentford team sheet isn't he?

So he bets hell score at 3pm Saturday, at 6pm on Friday, what's the biggie as majority of mugs do the same.