HoylandOwl Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/big-interview-danny-wilsons-football-journey-the-highs-lows-with-barnsley-fc-sheffield-wednesday-and-sheffield-united-3893877 I reckon it'll be an interesting read, not only for the Wednesday bits, but if there's anything in there about that game at Bumhole lane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Read the book. Really enjoyed it. Stories about false promises made by chairmen to lure managers in, devious ways of sacking them etc., His bit when he took Pigs over is a chapter titled "Agent Wilson." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, bricat said: Read the book. Really enjoyed it. Stories about false promises made by chairmen to lure managers in, devious ways of sacking them etc., His bit when he took Pigs over is a chapter titled "Agent Wilson." Uncle Dave Richards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley Owl Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Wilson was an integral player for us. Struggled as a manager, his big signings Donnelly, De Bilde and Jonk were all terrible. Having said that the major problem for us at that time was Dave Richards. Must have been difficult working for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Morley Owl said: Wilson was an integral player for us. Struggled as a manager, his big signings Donnelly, De Bilde and Jonk were all terrible. Having said that the major problem for us at that time was Dave Richards. Must have been difficult working for him. Jonk terrible 😄 Edited November 1, 2022 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Should have been sacked sooner but Dithering Dave was being lined up at Chairman ( Yes )Man for the Premier League and thought the sacking might reflect badly on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Morley Owl said: Wilson was an integral player for us. Struggled as a manager, his big signings Donnelly, De Bilde and Jonk were all terrible. Having said that the major problem for us at that time was Dave Richards. Must have been difficult working for him. Donnelly wasn’t terrible as a player, while his injury record was, and it wasn’t all his fault if the stories are true. Jonk was the best passer of the ball I’ve seen us have, after Shez. No, of course he didn’t have the impact of our legendary number 8 (who ironically signed on this day in 1989), but he was still a very good player but in a bad lot managed team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Imagine going from playing with overmars and bergkamp, to sonner and booth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 hours ago, lobster said: Should have been sacked sooner but Dithering Dave was being lined up at Chairman ( Yes )Man for the Premier League and thought the sacking might reflect badly on him Let’s be reyt he should never have been appointed in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Imagine going from playing with overmars and bergkamp, to sonner and booth Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Let’s be reyt he should never have been appointed in the first place Yep. Big Ron should have still been in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Didn't we get turned down by Smith and Houllier before 'settling' on Wilson? Would either have been an upgrade on Ron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, Tylluan said: Didn't we get turned down by Smith and Houllier before 'settling' on Wilson? Would either have been an upgrade on Ron? Didn't Houllier all but agree to come to Wednesday but then Liverpool offered him better terms and a decent budget? Same with Smith but he ended up at Everton? 1 of the biggest mistake in SWFC history not appointing Big Ron after he led us to safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: Didn't we get turned down by Smith and Houllier before 'settling' on Wilson? Would either have been an upgrade on Ron? Walter Smith was very close to becoming a Wednesday manager. But Everton got tipped off about it and jumped in. All told to me by another Scottish manager who knew him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Walter Smith was very close to becoming a Wednesday manager. But Everton got tipped off about it and jumped in. All told to me by another Scottish manager who knew him It was well documented elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Service Station meeting wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: It was well documented elsewhere. True but it was interesting to hear from elsewhere and who knows if our history would be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gleadless Owl Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Big Dunc, Dacourt, Steve Watson, Materazzi, John Collins etc would have pissed all over Wilson's signings if we'd got Smith. Don't remember Everton being much better off than us financially at that point, but could be wrong. Still love Wilson as a player even though he managed those wank stains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 Wilson was a very good player and IIRC quite underrated at the time by some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 7 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Wilson was a very good player and IIRC quite underrated at the time by some... He also acted well in Friday Night Dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 hours ago, Tylluan said: Didn't we get turned down by Smith and Houllier before 'settling' on Wilson? Would either have been an upgrade on Ron? Think we also got turned down by Phillipe Troussier who was manager of South Africa at the time as well as Wim Jansen who had just left Celtic Wasn't Rons plan that he'd manage for a few more years with Nigel Pearson as his assistant to get him ready to take over as manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Kiwi Owl said: Think we also got turned down by Phillipe Troussier who was manager of South Africa at the time as well as Wim Jansen who had just left Celtic Wasn't Rons plan that he'd manage for a few more years with Nigel Pearson as his assistant to get him ready to take over as manager? Yeah think so, as IIRC he mentioned it in his book. Also, he’d agreed a deal to sign a French centre back. But after he got the tin tack, he went to sign for Chelsea. Can’t remember his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Presumably not Desailly 👀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 I've remembered who it was... I think.... Pretty sure it was this bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 There's a bit more of an excerpt from the book - HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Stopped reading at " an attacking midfielder with an eye for goal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Wilson has regrets over Di Canio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Richards did a deal with Terry Brown just to get rid of him. Brown had the favour returned when West Ham fielded an eligible player in a League Cup quarter final they beat Villa on penalties. Doug Ellis wanted West Ham thrown out but Richards, as PL chairman, 'arbitrated' between the teams and then adjudicated a replay. Luckily Villa won the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley Owl Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 The pathetic leadership of Dave Richards is why the decline started. Awful chairman who had his own agenda. Sold us down the river 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 There is more to the Di Canio story . I worked for a French Group with UK subsiduary based in Sheffield . We had an Exec seconded to us from France for a few years . His kids were in the same school as Di Canio's and they knew him quite well . At the start of Term in September Di Canio's kids not there , they had left . The story being Di Canio was not going to be in Sheffield for very long . Our Exec allways suspected Di Canio orchestrated the incident in order to get away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 The interesting follow on to that theory would be if when he moved to West Ham the family followed to London. Wilson was out of his depth dealing with this, football was changing. However he was not the main one culpable, we all know where the blame lies with the person who used SWFC to climb up the greasy pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 6 hours ago, lobster said: There is more to the Di Canio story . I worked for a French Group with UK subsiduary based in Sheffield . We had an Exec seconded to us from France for a few years . His kids were in the same school as Di Canio's and they knew him quite well . At the start of Term in September Di Canio's kids not there , they had left . The story being Di Canio was not going to be in Sheffield for very long . Our Exec allways suspected Di Canio orchestrated the incident in order to get away Morning Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 For someone who doesn’t really want to talk about it he has done an awful lot of writing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Morning Dave Dave who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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