owl4ever1867 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 In response to this racism that has cropped up.... I don't care what colour you are, if you're good enough, you'll be picked, if not, work harder to be picked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Get in! Am disgusted with the targetted thuggery by Germany. Always the creative players getting hit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Fuck off box head ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Oh f*ck off. Oh well, "You've won it once. Now go and win it again." A. Ramsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 Absolutely fantastic performance. We out Germany’ed Germany. Especially near the end, holding the ball, bit of shithousery, which they were doing early on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Waiting for John Terry to put on a dress for the trophy presentation 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Well done lionesses but I’m not running round the garden minus my underpants all the same 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Earp's catching of high crosses under pressure was excellent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The only good news is the sound of glory seekers coming out the woodwork is silencing the music Can we officially retire Its Coming Home once and for all. Putting Sweet Caroline in the same box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: Well done lionesses but I’m not running round the garden minus my underpants all the same 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 See the young un summed it up for me. I am more than delighted for them, beating Germany is always good even more so winning the entire thing. But its not the same feeling as if the men had won last summer. If you are feeling that level of joy I am pleased it does feel that way for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I’d support England if they were playing tiddlywinks or Jenga against any other country. We’ll done lionesses it’s a proud moment 👍 Will it lead to anymore investment into grassroots will it eck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, HappyOwl said: I’d support England if they were playing tiddlywinks or Jenga against any other country. We’ll done lionesses it’s a proud moment 👍 Will it lead to anymore investment into grassroots will it eck Thing is investment in grassroots football is as relevant to the lads as much as lasses. Made the point the other day that if more money does come into the game then clearly part should go to the top players but absolutely what they need to prevent is thinking mirroring the mens game is the right way to go. Sadly the sharks will.try and push it that way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1banana2banana Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Sick of the constant media comparisons to the mens game. ‘biggest attendance at a womens OR mens final’ ‘did what the men couldn’t do’ why can’t people just enjoy it if they do and ignore it if not. I couldn’t care less about womens football just in the same way I couldn’t care less about Sunday league football. It’s a low standard but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, 1banana2banana said: Sick of the constant media comparisons to the mens game. ‘biggest attendance at a womens OR mens final’ ‘did what the men couldn’t do’ why can’t people just enjoy it if they do and ignore it if not. I couldn’t care less about womens football just in the same way I couldn’t care less about Sunday league football. It’s a low standard but each to their own. That attendance thing I don't mind, it's the biggest Euro final attendance ever. The latter, while true, isn't a relative competition/subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Surely there was only a bigger attendance today than last year's final due to no segregation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, JBO said: Surely there was only a bigger attendance today than last year's final due to no segregation And 20k restricted by covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I'd forgot that😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, JBO said: Surely there was only a bigger attendance today than last year's final due to no segregation I think the unofficial attendance might have been more last year. Just reading all the opinion pieces, new era and all that. Like they said after the Olympics and 10 years later the story is about no lasting legacy. Sadly I think it will be all words and less action on this as well. They will rightly enjoy their moment, but let's be honest the Premier League starts in 5 days and most of the sports media will switch attention to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 hours ago, HappyOwl said: Well done lionesses but I’m not running round the garden minus my underpants all the same 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 That's what you tell us. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: The only good news is the sound of glory seekers coming out the woodwork is silencing the music Can we officially retire Its Coming Home once and for all. Putting Sweet Caroline in the same box. I've already told my mate's lad that it's now up to his generation to come up with a replacement for 'It's coming home...". And as for the other one... Right down there with 'Swing low, sweet chariot" as a sporting anthem. The kids at games seem to love it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: See the young un summed it up for me. I am more than delighted for them, beating Germany is always good even more so winning the entire thing. But its not the same feeling as if the men had won last summer. If you are feeling that level of joy I am pleased it does feel that way for you. But the men didn't win it, did they? These did. So wtf has it got to do with the men? You're on a thread about a womens' team, talking about a mens' team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I never really liked the mawkish sentimentality of “Football’s Coming Home”, even before it became hackneyed. For me the 4th best England song of the 90s behind Vindaloo, World in Motion and England’s Irie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, JBO said: Surely there was only a bigger attendance today than last year's final due to no segregation No nasty knobheads, to put it another way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Maybe the girls should record their own song for the next Women’s World Cup. That would save us from yet another helping of the same old bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: But the men didn't win it, did they? These did. So wtf has it got to do with the men? You're on a thread about a womens' team, talking about a mens' team. Aren't we all supposed to be gender neutral these days. My point was simply being honest, as a long standing football fan I simply can't get as excited about the women winning a trophy than as if it had been the men. Or put it another way, when England men lost last summer I was fucked off for a week. If the lasses had lost on penalties my disappointment would have lasted until I got up and put the kettle on. Perhaps in time I will invest a bit more emotionally in the womens team. Tbh I think most of my available capacity goes on SWFC. I am glad you enjoyed the tournament, perhaps you feel the demons of not winning a trophy are lifted after 56 years. I am firmly in the group of that doesn’t feel the case. And that is not dismissing their achievement, because it is fantastic and well deserved. But we can retire Its Coming Home nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M42Owl Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 There’s been lots said about how refreshing this competition has been, and linked this to the women’s game in general. It can’t be argued that the lack of dissent, feigning injury, blatant time wasting etc has been great for the games. Add on the vast improvements in the players’ level of skill and technique over the last 4/5 years and there’s a great “product” on show. There’s still some crappy goalkeeping but by and large it’s better. Overall, the product is not just watchable, but it’s entertaining. Women (and many men) will now be calling for more equality throughout the game. In terms of access, at grass roots, there should be no question of equality, and there never should have been. But at the top, it has to be earned. And some of the England players can now expect mega deals for sponsorship. But players will also start pushing for higher pay from their clubs, arguing that Russo should get what Rashford gets, and a bog standard WPL player should get much nearer what a bog standard EPL player gets. And this is where it could all start to go wrong. Is there the depth of talent to create a competition (WPL) that will generate sponsorship and TV deals to match the mens’ game? Will crowd numbers increase when ticket prices trend towards that of the men’s game? Will TV audiences fall when they see the quality of the bottom half of the league? But at the very top, I think we could have some mega stars on mega bucks and some teams (we know which ones - I think it’s a shame that women’s football can’t develop independent of the men’s clubs, but that a different discussion) that suck in all the new income. Matches will then become more like the men’s game as winning becomes more imperative, as teams try to bridge the gap to the top few so as to access that top income level. A few years ago, we rarely saw a tackle worthy of the name, but in this competition, although rare, we’ve seen cynical fouls, a head high tackle (somehow the red card was overturned to yellow), players haranguing the ref, petulance on the pitch and on the sub’s bench, and falling over at a mere nudge. Sadly, these traits will become more common as the money grows. I may be a cynic, but as the game grows, as it attracts more money, it will tend away from all those positives at the top of this post and it’ll lose it unique attraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Listening to every single England player interviewed after the game you got a sense of how much pride they had just wearing the shirt and a love for the pure sport rather than owt else. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Listening to every single England player interviewed after the game you got a sense of how much pride they had just wearing the shirt and a love for the pure sport rather than owt else. Absolutely this. admittedly I’ve not watched all the games, but the ones I have watched I’ve really enjoyed. It’s been infectious, refreshing and overall, brilliant for the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) I supported England throughout this tournament. It brought a very rare feel good factor back to a society that needed it. I had forgotten what it was like to support a team overflowing with team spirit.A goalkeeper commanding the six yard box. A reliable defence. Using good shithousery techniques when required .A coach who knew how, who and when to substitute. All important assets for making a successful team. If only we had that here. Edited August 1, 2022 by bricat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 16 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Aren't we all supposed to be gender neutral these days. My point was simply being honest, as a long standing football fan I simply can't get as excited about the women winning a trophy than as if it had been the men. Or put it another way, when England men lost last summer I was fucked off for a week. If the lasses had lost on penalties my disappointment would have lasted until I got up and put the kettle on. Perhaps in time I will invest a bit more emotionally in the womens team. Tbh I think most of my available capacity goes on SWFC. I am glad you enjoyed the tournament, perhaps you feel the demons of not winning a trophy are lifted after 56 years. I am firmly in the group of that doesn’t feel the case. And that is not dismissing their achievement, because it is fantastic and well deserved. But we can retire Its Coming Home nonetheless Fair comments, mostly, IMO. Apart from being gender neutral, whether we're supposed to be or not. Not a desirable new trick for this old dog. I did thoroughly enjoy the tournament throughout: saw every single game of it. I was able to enjoy not just the refreshing football but also the variety of happy, singing, bright- coloured shirted visiting crowds, which were a pleasure to see and hear. A good reminder of earlier days like hosting Denmark here in 1996 and a Cretan holiday during a finals when our resort's 'bar street' seemed to host half of Holland, all in the famous shirts, of course. Well done to United (hiss!) & to Rotherham for their hosting in South Yorkshire this time: it looked good on T.V. Also the council for the fan park at Devonshire Green. I've already got withdrawal symptoms of the whole tournament. No, I don't feel like we've lifted the 56 years of "pain". Not the same team: a different, enjoyable one who've started their own record of success in memorable style. More!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 hours ago, Reesh said: Listening to every single England player interviewed after the game you got a sense of how much pride they had just wearing the shirt and a love for the pure sport rather than owt else. Agreed. I suspect that this group of players has 'made it' to where they are the hard* way, still, and that it's those qualities that you've recognised that have played a significant part in them getting to where they now are. * Not perhaps the real hard way that the ones before them faced when they played for the likes of Doncaster Belles and England, but a damned sight harder than probably the ones to come through from now on will face. It will be a real shame when that pride and love of team, of flag, of sport, disappears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 hours ago, M42Owl said: There’s been lots said about how refreshing this competition has been, and linked this to the women’s game in general. It can’t be argued that the lack of dissent, feigning injury, blatant time wasting etc has been great for the games. Add on the vast improvements in the players’ level of skill and technique over the last 4/5 years and there’s a great “product” on show. There’s still some crappy goalkeeping but by and large it’s better. Overall, the product is not just watchable, but it’s entertaining. Women (and many men) will now be calling for more equality throughout the game. In terms of access, at grass roots, there should be no question of equality, and there never should have been. But at the top, it has to be earned. And some of the England players can now expect mega deals for sponsorship. But players will also start pushing for higher pay from their clubs, arguing that Russo should get what Rashford gets, and a bog standard WPL player should get much nearer what a bog standard EPL player gets. And this is where it could all start to go wrong. Is there the depth of talent to create a competition (WPL) that will generate sponsorship and TV deals to match the mens’ game? Will crowd numbers increase when ticket prices trend towards that of the men’s game? Will TV audiences fall when they see the quality of the bottom half of the league? But at the very top, I think we could have some mega stars on mega bucks and some teams (we know which ones - I think it’s a shame that women’s football can’t develop independent of the men’s clubs, but that a different discussion) that suck in all the new income. Matches will then become more like the men’s game as winning becomes more imperative, as teams try to bridge the gap to the top few so as to access that top income level. A few years ago, we rarely saw a tackle worthy of the name, but in this competition, although rare, we’ve seen cynical fouls, a head high tackle (somehow the red card was overturned to yellow), players haranguing the ref, petulance on the pitch and on the sub’s bench, and falling over at a mere nudge. Sadly, these traits will become more common as the money grows. I may be a cynic, but as the game grows, as it attracts more money, it will tend away from all those positives at the top of this post and it’ll lose it unique attraction. So many points in this are worthy of discussion. For me, I'll leave it until I'm not so tired after a very warm hill walk. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 12 hours ago, bricat said: I supported England throughout this tournament. It brought a very rare feel good factor back to a society that needed it. I had forgotten what it was like to support a team overflowing with team spirit.A goalkeeper commanding the six yard box. A reliable defence. Using good shithousery techniques when required .A coach who knew how, who and when to substitute. All important assets for making a successful team. If only we had that here. I dunno if you saw Holland play or not, bri. Their teenage 'keeper, van Donselaar (?), was simply magnificent throughout. She only had one cap prior to this tournament but, when their no.1 had a tournament ending injury in their 1st game, she stepped up and was utterly outstanding throughout. Some of her full length tips around the post style saves were superb. She may just be what future young keepers aspire to be like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: I dunno if you saw Holland play or not, bri. Their teenage 'keeper, van Donselaar (?), was simply magnificent throughout. She only had one cap prior to this tournament but, when their no.1 had a tournament ending injury in their 1st game, she stepped up and was utterly outstanding throughout. Some of her full length tips around the post style saves were superb. She may just be what future young keepers aspire to be like. Oops: It's van Domselaar and she's 22. The rest stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Didn't see her mate but I respect your opinion and will look for further fixtures. I remember reading a coaching manual by Dave Sexton who said if his keeper hadn't got a sore throat after a game , he wanted to know why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Some good points Owling. I think in many ways it is refreshing, in others would I want mens football to be like it. For all not wanting blokes to be snorting coke firing flares out their arse, would I want to attend the equivalent of an Ed Sheeran concert either The gripes we have about the mens game is also what makes the mens game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Some good points Owling. I think in many ways it is refreshing, in others would I want mens football to be like it. For all not wanting blokes to be snorting coke firing flares out their arse, would I want to attend the equivalent of an Ed Sheeran concert either The gripes we have about the mens game is also what makes the mens game I see what you mean MK. But I could happily leave behind people firing flares out of their arse and smashing shit up ‘just because’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 23 hours ago, Reesh said: Listening to every single England player interviewed after the game you got a sense of how much pride they had just wearing the shirt and a love for the pure sport rather than owt else. A Pride of Lionesses! 🤩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: I see what you mean MK. But I could happily leave behind people firing flares out of their arse and smashing shit up ‘just because’. I happily could - but equally do I want to be sat in the equivalent of a pop concert. Fuck that its not Take That And football was never a family event however folk try and airbrush the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Still moaning... "German media cry foul over alleged handball by England women’s team | Women's Euro 2022 | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/01/german-media-cry-foul-over-alleged-handball-by-england-womens-team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 To bitter,biased German media. Jack Charlton never fouled the opponent resulting in your spawny equalizer from the subsequent free kick in 1966. What goes around comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I happily could - but equally do I want to be sat in the equivalent of a pop concert. Fuck that its not Take That And football was never a family event however folk try and airbrush the past I’m certainly not suggesting it needs to be a sanitised experience, but it doesn’t need to be full of dicks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I'll just leave this here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Mate, you can leave it there as long as you want, but it still won't be given. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Still moaning... "German media cry foul over alleged handball by England women’s team | Women's Euro 2022 | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/01/german-media-cry-foul-over-alleged-handball-by-england-womens-team Tbf if it had been the other way round then it wouldn't have been a little more noticeable in the English media Like the last 5 minutes game management was perfectly acceptable as we were winning, compare that to our reaction to the Pompey goalie having to check if his leg required amputation on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I'm still fucked off the German ***** wiped out half of my ancestors, life is a bitch Fritz. Two world wars, one world Cup And the euros..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Tbf if it had been the other way round then it wouldn't have been a little more noticeable in the English media Like the last 5 minutes game management was perfectly acceptable as we were winning, compare that to our reaction to the Pompey goalie having to check if his leg required amputation on Saturday His head! 👿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 00:22, bricat said: Didn't see her mate but I respect your opinion and will look for further fixtures. I remember reading a coaching manual by Dave Sexton who said if his keeper hadn't got a sore throat after a game , he wanted to know why. The 'Flying Dutchwoman'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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