HoylandOwl Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Thought I'd start a thread to keep things in one place... So.... First up, the season opener for our young Owls is tomorrow (Tues 15th) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Be interesting to see the line up to see if anyone has been kept out to keep training with the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 21s team to face Millwall today. XI: Charles, Siqueira, Maltby, Adetoro, Reed, Shipston, Glover, Buchan, Fusire (c), Onukwuli, Cadamarteri SUBS: Hall, Flannery, Wilson, Cook, Moses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Really impressed he's made Fusire captain, a reward for his work with the 1st team I'd expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Abdul Abdulmalik with a rocket for Millwall. 1-0. It’s the first real effort that they’ve had - fine strike. (As per Joe Crann on Twitter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1-1 Dunno who scored as I'm using the Millwall twitter feed as BaldycuntCrann has blocked for pointing out he's an inept bald ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 1-1. Tremendous finish on the edge of the box from Cadamarteri - took that one so well. Great strike. #SWFC Then.... A minute ago.. 2-1 to Millwall. Big mistake at the back and #SWFC get punished. They don’t deserve to be behind, but here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Finished 2-2. Cadamarteri bagging the equaliser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Now hopefully get Bailey fully fit and loan him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 The younger Cadamateri got an hat trick in a 7-1 hammering of Donny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelinblue Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 15/08/2023 at 16:16, Reesh said: Now hopefully get Bailey fully fit and loan him out. Yep, get him in the shop window asap so we can get a few peanuts in if he shows any promise, you know the drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Angelinblue said: Yep, get him in the shop window asap so we can get a few peanuts in if he shows any promise, you know the drill. Time of the month? Or are you constantly an irritating thick **** all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelinblue Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I don't think it's me that's an attention seeking troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Angelinblue said: I don't think it's me that's an attention seeking troll Yeah it appears to be. Now kindly fuck you boring **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 The 21's drew 3-3 against Cardiff today/ Here's how #swfc Under-21s lined up away at Cardiff earlier today. XI | Charles, Siqueira, Wilson, Adetoro, Reed, Shipston, Glover, Buchan, Fusire, Onukwuli, Cadamarteri Subs | Hall, Maltby, Flannery, Cook, Moses Gui Siqueira scored first for the Owls and Bailey Cadamarteri bagged a brace. Cardiffs match report for the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 That's 4 in 2 for Bailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/live/e9oQQFbZaz0?feature=share Our goals are 26th, 28th and 90th mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Home to Watford today at 2pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Reesh said: Home to Watford today at 2pm Were winning 3-1 but not sure on final score. Cadamarteri scored one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Were winning 3-1 but not sure on final score. Cadamarteri scored one of them. Thank you. Ended 3-1, Cadamateri, Shipston and Fusire. Gassama and Heneghan played for us, per the Star Edited August 25, 2023 by Reesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Seems we have a few decent prospects but also a handy team this season. Phuti hasn’t been able to play either has he. Would be great to see some attacking prospects come through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/stronger-than-ever-sheffield-wednesday-starlet-bailey-cadamarteri-relishing-the-challenge-4271158 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Another draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 The young Owls play Charlton this afternoon... And it's live on YouTube via SWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 XI: Jackson, Phuthi, Brennan, Heneghan, Flannery, Wilks, Wilson, Glover, Fusire (c), Cook, Cadamarteri SUBS: Adetoro, Reed, Siqueira, Onukwuli, Shipston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: The young Owls play Charlton this afternoon... And it's live on YouTube via SWFC Was planning to go to that. Unhappily, due to some necessary re-jigging of my diary last night and today, I'm being forced to go to a nice 'country-ish' pub for the afternoon. Damn! I'll make the effort to follow the score, though. 🍺 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 It’s still 0-0… 65 gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 Charlton lead 1-0 77 gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 Flurry of chances for us in the final couple of minutes, right into injury time. Charlton break and score a second in the 95th min. 2-0 to the visitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 Game over. Full time. Wednesday 0 - 2 Charlton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 Match report from swfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) Did Heneghan play? The official report has trialist in his position Edited September 8, 2023 by Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 18 hours ago, Tylluan said: Did Heneghan play? The official report has trialist in his position Yes he did. the full 90. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 I'm surprised clubs haven't been in for Ben yet, for the same reason we signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: I'm surprised clubs haven't been in for Ben yet, for the same reason we signed him. I'm wondering if he's signed a week to week contract. I'm just thinking about how the insurance would stand if he's not attached to the club somehow yet playing u21 league games. You can use weekly contracts within the 21s set up as they're normally used when bringing trialists in. May also be the reason why he was listed as 'trialist' in the last line up. He stays at the club that way then if we have a defensive crisis around November then we have a ready made replacement until January who's fully fit and been training around the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 That shit is far far too clever for Wenzdi @Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Genuine question, probably for @Tylluan to answer... why do we very rarely see any of the youngsters truly integrated into the first team. You see it at lots of clubs but hardly with us. Eg Bailey... if he is that highly rated why not stick him in if we struggle for goals... the old if your good enough your old enough adage.. is it they aren't actually good enough or just various managers don't fancy them? We didn't do it with Hirst and maybe his career would have gone a different path if we had of... just something thats been bugging me more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Canterburyowl said: Genuine question, probably for @Tylluan to answer... why do we very rarely see any of the youngsters truly integrated into the first team. You see it at lots of clubs but hardly with us. Eg Bailey... if he is that highly rated why not stick him in if we struggle for goals... the old if your good enough your old enough adage.. is it they aren't actually good enough or just various managers don't fancy them? We didn't do it with Hirst and maybe his career would have gone a different path if we had of... just something thats been bugging me more and more. That is on the past managers, I believe Xisco will offer more chances to them. Bailey is just coming back from a double hernia operation and the rigours of men's football for a just turned 18 year old would do more harm than good at this stage in his recovery. Hirst was fucking raw when he broke through and him leaving was always about money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 @Canterburyowl Basically what @Reesh has said. With Hirst take a step back and look at his progression. It's taken till he's 24 for him to come through enough to hold down a regular position in a 1st team environment similar to ours. He was shocking on loan at Rotherham, a bit part player at Portsmouth (injuries got him a regular start) and no one took a gamble taking him from Leicester when they were trying to get rid. I think Hirst had to do a lot of quick growing up when his Leicester contract ended. Ipswich were very unsure at first, even though they'd had him in loan. If Hirst had come through somewhere like Cambridge then he'd probably have been playing 1st team at 18. If he'd been at Man Utd's academy he'd probably have been let go at 21. Cadamarteri isn't ready for full on first team pitch time yet. As @Reesh has said, he's just coming back from injury. If he's fit enough I'd like to see him go on loan in January but it has to be the right club and environment. He could save us a lot of money next season. For players like Bailey I wish the old Combination League format was still around. Regarding the rest of the academy. They simply weren't good enough. Jos's experiment, when he came in, showed that and you only have to look at where certain players are now. Take two players who came through at the same time. Brennan stayed and never really got a look in. Liam Shaw left, struggled on loan in Scotland and is now wandering round League 1 on loan. It'll be interesting to see where both end up when their contracts run out. I've been a strong detractor of our academy set up and I still hate it but it is getting better. Shipston, Maltby, Glover, Almi-Adetoro, Phuthi, Fusire, Cadamarteri and Charles all have a chance of making it. Whether it's with us, who knows. Then you've got Moses, Rodrigues, Thornton, Da Costa all showing a lot of promise. Then there's Caelan Cadamarteri who's only 13 but already been offered a scholarship contract that kicks in when he's 16. But these kids all have agents and sometimes it might not be the right agent for the player at that time. I refer you back to Hirst. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 It’s a shame the all Hirst thing fell to bits. If he had listened to the right folk he COULD have had a go here as we all know. Imagine the adulation if he’d have even been half the player his dad was… But. He’ll be back today. Waiting to accept the boos, and all the shit. Which again. Could have been VERY different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 He'd have been released when Moore got us relegated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: It’s a shame the all Hirst thing fell to bits. If he had listened to the right folk he COULD have had a go here as we all know. Imagine the adulation if he’d have even been half the player his dad was… But. He’ll be back today. Waiting to accept the boos, and all the shit. Which again. Could have been VERY different. In all honesty I don't think he would have made it here and it's not just him. We've had some horrendous injury problems up front and no manager has called up the kids. We've played half fit forwards and players out of position instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 But why? Also @Tylluan do you think Shaw and Urgohide's careers would have had more chance of being a success had they stayed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 16/09/2023 at 14:08, Tylluan said: In all honesty I don't think he would have made it here and it's not just him. We've had some horrendous injury problems up front and no manager has called up the kids. We've played half fit forwards and players out of position instead. That's why I said COULD. Not WOULD. But, there's an argument even if he got a chance, he'd forever be in his Dad's shadow and always not be able to live up to the hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Another 2 for Bailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Balti Pies? Banning orders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Andyben said: Dodgy MOTs Course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Reesh said: Course Winco? 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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