HoylandOwl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Which its still as clear as mud if he is or isn't..... If he was to go back, I'm guessing for the most part, people would want him replacing (providing we can't snag him).... So who would you go for? Just interested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Flint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Absolutely no idea tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said: Absolutely no idea tbh. Just looking online. Tomos Kalas - Bristol City Luke McNally - Burnley Aden Flint - Stoke Bambo Diaby - Preston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Henegran or Ihiekwe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 If we're loaning from a higher academy then Luke Mbete if Man City recall him from Huddersfield, as is expected. Or Finlay Burns, who was at Swansea last season and is expected to go out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyn_owl Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Cardiff city have paid the first instalment of the Sala fee and are expecting the FA to lift the embargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just hope whatever the outcome we sort it fairly quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I just find it pays to be pragmatic. If he can manage to stay be good, it's a disappointment if he does leave, but it's not the end of the world as we know it. No one to blame, key is to.make sure we are working hard on the Plan B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Do we know how long MM has on his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Supercockle said: Do we know how long MM has on his contract? June 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tylluan said: June 2024 Thanks. I’d love us to go after him. I think he’ll have enjoyed his time here and promotion would put us in a decent position to temp him away IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, lyn_owl said: Cardiff city have paid the first instalment of the Sala fee and are expecting the FA to lift the embargo. Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Which means they can buy new players when lifted, doesn't mean they'll take McGuiness back. His return was probably because they couldn't buy their preferred players but when it became apparent that they couldn't even get him back then they've finally done the honourable thing to try lift the ban Edited January 11, 2023 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, Andyben said: Which means they can buy new players when lifted, doesn't mean they'll take McGuiness back. His return was probably because they couldn't buy their preferred players but when it became apparent that they couldn't even get him back then they've finally done the honourable thing to try lift the ban I’m hoping this is the case, which is very plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Out of interest how many instalments do they have on the Sala fee ? I presume at least 2 more and the next one presumably due in less than a year given the delay in paying this. Not a lot we can do about McGuinness in reality. Not good for him with the uncertainty, in terms of impacting how he plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Out of interest how many instalments do they have on the Sala fee ? I presume at least 2 more and the next one presumably due in less than a year given the delay in paying this. Not a lot we can do about McGuinness in reality. Not good for him with the uncertainty, in terms of impacting how he plays If I remember rightly it was about £14/15m they were paying for him at the time of signing. So if their instalment of £7m was plus interest, then maybe it is more than 2 instalments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said: I'd love to see some training ground photos the club OS do this to see if he is still actually within the club currently. Is that a sarcastic comment? If not. He was seen training yesterday… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: If I remember rightly it was about £14/15m they were paying for him at the time of signing. So if their instalment of £7m was plus interest, then maybe it is more than 2 instalments.. The first instalment was for £5.3 mill which went up to £7 with interest . I am a bit puzzled, surely Sala should have been insured by somebody . Nantes sold him so off their insurance but as Cardiff now saying that they didn't actually sign him he would not have been added to their insurance . Seems to be a fuck up all round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 He signed the paperwork to become a Cardiff player; that’s why they’ve been expected to pay the bill, or so an article I saw online said the other day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 The Sala embargo (uefa / fifa) lifted but isn't there an efl embargo related to this also to be lifted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, bricat said: The Sala embargo (uefa / fifa) lifted but isn't there an efl embargo related to this also to be lifted Think Alex Miller tweeted last night that Cardiff were no longer on the EFL website as a club operating under an embargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichOwl Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Seems EFL have now followed suit with UEFA and FIFA https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64236759 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 We can only hope that they’d prefer to go down the route of buying a player rather than recalling McGuinness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: I’m told McGuiness has made it clear to Cardiff that he wants to see the season out with us. Whether that has any bearing on their decision remains to be seen Let's hope that's true! Was reading that Cardiff signed him from Arsenal, I can see how & why he was at Arsenal tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 We’re apparently after another Cardiff player…. Is this a trade off? https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-consider-another-cardiff-city-defender-as-mark-mcguinness-future-looks-ominous-3984552 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 He’s back with the sheep shagging Welsh ***** then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Gutted. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-cardiff-city-mcguinness-25963643 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Let’s just sign him in the summer when we go up. that said he’s gonna be missed far too good for this level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I’d be proper fancying it if I was Wycombe on Saturday. If I was Ainsworth, I’d be telling the Wycombe players to put it on our defensive unit all afternoon. McGuinness is a massive loss, given that our other two ‘dominant’ center backs are also out. They’ll look at our team and really fancy it physically. A touch of pressure on Moore and DC to get a replacement in now with some massive games coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Not a lot you can do Disappointed but I think there will be a Plan B - just don't expect the Club / Moore to say a great deal about it until its basically announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, KrolMong said: I’d be proper fancying it if I was Wycombe on Saturday. If I was Ainsworth, I’d be telling the Wycombe players to put it on our defensive unit all afternoon. McGuinness is a massive loss, given that our other two ‘dominant’ center backs are also out. They’ll look at our team and really fancy it physically. A touch of pressure on Moore and DC to get a replacement in now with some massive games coming up. So basically the same as they would have done anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceups Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Let’s not underestimate Reece James’ roll in the solid defence or Palmer’s either to be fair. We will strengthen and Famewo looked decent in the short stint he had. Gutted to lose McGuinnes but we are far from a one man team. Let’s just hope DM and DC act fast to bring in a replacement too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: We’re apparently after another Cardiff player…. Is this a trade off? https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-consider-another-cardiff-city-defender-as-mark-mcguinness-future-looks-ominous-3984552 I have fitness concerns over Curtis Nelson. He was their first choice centre half for the last two seasons then he picked up a niggle in pre season that kept him out of the first six games. Since then he's been in and out of the squad but barely started or used off the bench. He did 90 mins against Swansea in October then didn't even make the bench for the next game against Rotherham. Similar thing happened in November. Full game against Hull, unused sub against the Pigs then out of the squad altogether for the next four games. There's a lot talk about the original pre season problem never fully going away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Tylluan said: I have fitness concerns over Curtis Nelson. He was their first choice centre half for the last two seasons then he picked up a niggle in pre season that kept him out of the first six games. Since then he's been in and out of the squad but barely started or used off the bench. He did 90 mins against Swansea in October then didn't even make the bench for the next game against Rotherham. Similar thing happened in November. Full game against Hull, unused sub against the Pigs then out of the squad altogether for the next four games. There's a lot talk about the original pre season problem never fully going away. Bizarre that it's possible they loan us a different defender. Why cant they just leave us with MMcG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Looking at the sidebar for the OO tweet and it mentions MMcG is now training with Cardiff but still awaiting paperwork to come through before he can be officially recalled. Have we let him go too early? could there be a chance that the embargo waint be lifted regarding this? Not looked at Stir and Examiner articles as the ads and endless loading does me bonce in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ozzie said: Looking at the sidebar for the OO tweet and it mentions MMcG is now training with Cardiff but still awaiting paperwork to come through before he can be officially recalled. Have we let him go too early? could there be a chance that the embargo waint be lifted regarding this? Not looked at Stir and Examiner articles as the ads and endless loading does me bonce in He's their player, he has been recalled. The End. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 We just say thank you very much for loaning him to us and then see what the future brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Reesh said: He's their player, he has been recalled. The End. not officially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Ozzie said: not officially Oh fuck off. Are you 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Ozzie said: not officially There’s about a 0% chance of him not being back in their squad now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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