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I think that is MK Dons 6th go in the play offs and yet to reach the final. I am not expecting much sympathy to that stat on here 🤔 It does not seem to have captured the imagination of the locals that's for sure

Hi Danny I lived in Hull for many years. Its a strange place, they prefer rugby league, the women are looser than a B Diaby back pass, you say ja a lot they say ner. You only have to read the posts of Greno to appreciate the intellectual void there is and he is President of Mensa.

Great stuff from Dunsbyowl. A much more sensible informative Wednesdayite to follow on X (We also share the exact same birthday and that our first game was v Bolton in 74)

Interesting point but he did say that pre season and perhaps it was the January signings that made the difference and Rohl. As much as we under achieved with Xisco, I think we did overachieve somewhat with Rohl. And without improvement thereto I am not sure Rohl could maintain it longer term. My pre season estimate was about 18th to 20th - subject to signings - which is sort of where we ended up. But not quite the roller coaster way we got there.

i mean the chap replacing him is hardly seen as dynamic But Moyes suffers from the fact that if you are never going to finish above 7th in your league then the fans want some decent style football to watch in exchange for the money they part with

I genuinely question a lot of clubs - lets be honest Wednesday have been guilty more than many in this regard over the years - but even if they have spent a lot on wages etc I suspect its still less than the top 6. The expectations placed on these managers seems a tad harsh at times And as we know there is little guarantee the next one coming in will do better

A good leaver A decent player - just not one that fitted into the system Rohl ended up playing

Agree - I think for them to engage and hear other opinions is part of their education process

There are 2 aspects to that 1) Broadly speaking I would agree that it is not for the fans to seek a new owner 2) But the actions of the 1867 Group and its many cohorts on social media etc by demonstrating, seeking to disrupt the matches was with the pro active agenda of trying to force Chansiri to do that The point I raise is simply that IF you do 2) then you cannot absolve or defer the responsibility of 1) to others To me its a very simple equation.

See all of us are Wednesday fans and want the best for the team. I guess we simply have different views on how that could be achieved. The 1867 Group seek to make Chansiri the scapegoat, others you should never bite the hand that feeds you. Us fence sitters can acknowledge both. You certainly don't demand to remove the owner without coming up with a solution for a new owner and replacement funding. Equally you can understand a lot of the criticism of the historic approach adopted. In May 2024 we are no further ahead in terms of league position and the more subjective element of how we compare to others in terms of infrastructure / organisation. What we actually need is for Chansiri to work quietly in the background, no statements or announcements required please. This Club is best served when that arises

MK Dons away Then offer to get Reesh a ticket Make the rest of this thread seem like a vicars tea party

Thanks for doing it and bringing back memories from that time. As mentioned over this thread, it was in hindsight peak Wednesday. Perhaps we were seeing how the bigger clubs were starting to pull away, the influence of more foreign players and without deep pockets it was hard to sustain the competitive edge. That is with a lot of hindsight because the mood would have been slight disappointment at only finishing 7th ! But with good expectations for the following season. (I was probably moaning tbh)

His wife is South African, off to get some tyres

The moral of that is treat people how you would like to be treated. If you moan about getting online abuse, then don't use abusive terms online about others. It's not a one way option. The solution I have found is manage your social media input. I am little more than a reader on X, I haven't joined SWFC groups on Facebook. Being banned from Stalk was actually a blessing - don't spend 2 hours arguing with idiots.

That all does seem a positive step.

Fair to say when you play from the back and it works its a joy. In a parallel universe the right to left switch goes straight to their player who unopposed scores, we spend many hours cursing Pep We started getting the balance right. In the end yesterday was solely about the result, the performance was adequate, but the flaws were there in some of our passing, defending from set plays. Their offside goal may have been tight with VAR. But it was a cracking goal, the 2nd wasn't bad either.

I don't think many of us have unrealistic expectations in that regard. But equally don't think we should be languishing where we are, relieved at avoiding tier 3 again. I would hope our natural position for now is more nudging around top mid half, having a shout at the play offs. This division is tough as hell, next year possibly stronger still. And you can't achieve that aim on a wing and a prayer. Having taken a sabbatical from going to home games, it was great to see v WBA a full stadium, some good football and a connection between fans, the players and the coach. There was a buzz, let that be built on is all most of us ask

I didn't say that though, I said a valid criticism was a lack of planning (in the past). There are signs that Chansiri is understanding there is a better way to run a football club. I think all I want is continuing evidence this summer of that happening, no dramas, we simply talk about how shit / great the signings are based on no evidence

I don't disagree, I would actually suggest the Club would be even better served by investing 500k in decent non football side personnel as much as anything. Because these are the building blocks needed to stop the club lurching around like a trawler in a storm. 24 years and counting with barely a sniff of the Premier League. Not on Chansiri by a long way but something has to change

Because its erm true. Or would you rather have the nonsense of last summer and coming in under prepared. The criticisms of Chansiri by the 1867 Group are largely unfair, deluded. But suggesting Chansiri can't learn from his past mistakes is just as deluded What this Club needs to progress is a summer where the owner backs and supports the incumbent head coach, not much to ask is it

Thing is most of us grasp how football works and that the transfer window closing presumably at the end of August is the only time you can assess. I mean the January window was pivotal in our survival even if it was dismissed by many.

The one valid criticism of Chansiri is the lack of planning. I mean he has a point in that football has far too many variables to plan with any guarantees, but if you have the solid base then you are better placed to absorb the shocks. He really must look around the football league and see relative success at Clubs that have the organisation in place. Perhaps also witness that the Clubs that are basket cases ie Huddersfield and Brum went down. Chansiri used a get out of jail card. The question of how we proceed is now firmly in his court. He may not be able to promise £Ms for transfers, but what he can do is appreciate Rohl is a rising star, he knows what is needed behind the scenes and the one request is he listens and supports this guy. Fail to plan, plan to fail. It's in his court to ensure we have a solid close season, no melodramas.

I don't think the team will be built around him, even Bannan would accept that can't arise as he gets older. But as an option and a player that can unlock defences he could be utilised well We certainly need more strength in that area of the pitch.

Tbf you have done a JJ and come strong at the end of the season to earn a contract for next.

I suspect Rohl wants him to stay though. How we fit him in will be interesting, will we change system moving forward, if Rohl gets the players in he would like.