Teddy Nickelarse

To be fair anyone on here could and should have seen that reaction coming too.

Pretty much as expected except perhaps Dawson. Suspect offered terms to reflect likely experienced back up keeper. Bonus that we've been able to cut Delgado loose. One or two might decline terms offered but the list is a solid core of proven championship players and trusted by Röhl. Scope to add some extra quality now that the pruning has been done. So far, so good.

We know though that there are necessarily going to be a raft of changes anyway. It's about balance too. Keeping injury prone players is a huge risk certainly( exceptions like Luongo/Ipswich are rare) and this makes cutting the likes of Byers loose ostensibly prudent..... and indeed raises questions over Windass. It surely makes sense though to retain a core of solid, proven performers at this level, to help smooth the evolutionary process. Too much too soon is as fraught with risk as overly clinging to the past.

Yep. Most reaching end of terms will leave. Makes absolute sense though to keep good players with good attitudes to help, as you say, integrate the many newcomers that will be incoming anyway.

For Danny to decide how to employ him; in the team, the squad, off the bench or whatever. We're heading for a circular argument though. Agree to differ on what he offers.

Don't agree but what I've learned is that once opinions on players has been formed no persuasion to the contrary is ever effective. Agree to differ.

Of course - but not revolving solely around Bannan

I don't require confirmation. Some evidently do especially the anti DC brigade. Just thought I'd add a bit of a positive that's all. Just something I heard from a good source. Any confirmation would likely be in the form of extended contract announcement or merely him returning from his break and getting stuck into next season's preparations

I expect him to be offered terms. I don’t for one nano second expect Danny to base the whole team around him.

I think it fair to say that our opinions on Bannan are irreconcilably different. I agree with the bit in bold and have stated that whilst I expect contracts to be offered to Bannan, Palmer, Vaulks and Windass the length of term and remuneration must be appropriate. The way the wage bill has contracted in the last couple of years suggests that lessons have been learned. They may decline terms offered. I suspect that Danny is pragmatic as well as being a very talented manager/coach and that we'll see that evidenced when the retained list is announced. On a tangent I think that we'll soon hear confirmation that DR will be the one leading us forward.

Took a few goes but think they've finally managed to get it right with this.

It will evolve dramatically over the next two summers with tweaks in January. With the raft of new players that we already know will need to come in we'll need solid players like Bannan, Vaulks, Palmer etc to help with the evolution though they may not be automatic first choices. I suspect that Röhl values them more than you do which is why I am co fident that they'll be offered fresh terms - commensurate with their ages and value. We'll know soon enough.

Personally thank that this is simplistic - apologies. Just with players that we pretty much know will be leaving at the end of their agreements there'll be a need to recruit 9 or 10 - a big task already. In reality there may be a couple more with contracted players- on big wages - not getting much game time under Röhl who he'd likely prefer to move on. Offering fresh terms to players that Röhl clearly values would IMO just indicate a prudent evolution.

My guesses - Likely that Bakinson, Fletcher, Hendrick, Dawson, Brennan, Momo, Pederson, Gregory and Byers will be the definite leavers with their contracts/loans expiring. Smith might attract interest and be allowed to leave. Maybe even Ihekwei too. James might be easier to move on as I doubt that his wages will be as big an obstacle as the other two. Iorfa, Palmer, Bannan, Windass, Vaulks and Bernard I reckon will be offered new deals though how many agree to stay on the terms offered will be interesting. Proven solid Championship performers. As with Luongo a couple if season's ago I expect that there will be deadlines to facilitate finding replacements where required. I think the club has a one year option on Paterson, whether it's taken up may depend on how high the wages obligation is. It's going to be a busy summer!

He'll be in charge of us next season.

Still funny though.

Certainly cut from the same cloth.

🤣 Apologies if posted elsewhere.

Got the same. I don't do abuse or trolling but challenging his one eyed stance with regards to DC is a hyper sensitive area for him. What really got me angry though was him allowing the 5 minute anti-DC rant on FH then ridiculing opposing viewpoints, respectfully made, with constant interruptions and belittling.

Staton makes me want to puke.

Good stuff. Thanks.

Yep.

The fun in getting to the PL is just that - the getting there. Once there invariably the funs stops for the majority.

Today, especially, I'm not focussing on our fanbase negatives. I do believe that we do need to alter the balance of how our financial resources are employed however and hope that the embryonic plans mentioned by Tylluan come to fruition. More generally I hope that DR and DC can settle on a way forward expediently and we have a summer of non turbulence.

We do and its being driven and orchestrated by a nucleus of DC haters (not too strong a word). That aside I think that DR, especially, is clear in his mind that we have to improve our operation significantly aside from just the first team personnel.