Chelters

The devil might be in the detail there. I believe he still owns the ground and that loans were owed to the parent company. The word ‘personally’ seems very deliberate there. Still great that they’ve got it done though, good luck to them.

Impatient f****rs. Wait 4 and a bit months and we’ll get to this.

Not really a football town in truth so only a smattering of them. They have the advantage of being above what would be considered their natural level, so are a bit more pragmatic about it all.

Living where I do, at least I have the consolation that the local EFL team haven’t even scored yet.

In the same way that a fine, vintage single malt whisky is the dregs of a barrel of gone off beer.

We’re going to get tonked aren’t we.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he was looking for an excuse to cut the spending, and has jumped at the chance to use the protests as that excuse.

Saturday 2 October 1993 FA Carling Premiership Manchester United (home) With the Owls still struggling at the wrong end of the table, and only one win so far, the last team they wanted to see at Hillsborough were the reigning champions. Having said that, over the previous couple of seasons the visitors had been given a bit of a rough ride in two high scoring affairs. In 1991-92 two goals from Nigel Jemson had given Wednesday a 3-2 win, then a season later Wednesday lost a 3-0 lead in a 3-3 Boxing Day thriller. The visitors’ squad list was no doubt impressive, with players such as Peter Schmeichel, Eric Cantona, Paul Ince, Ryan Giggs etc etc. We all disliked them at the time but 30 years on there is no doubt they were one of the best teams ever to grace the Premiership. Wednesday were able to welcome back Carlton Palmer, and he took his place in the back four alongside Des Walker, with Andy Pearce dropping to the bench. This was on the back of the news that Nigel Pearson’s injury was confirmed as a fracture, albeit a relatively minor one. With backup defenders Watts, Linighan and Stewart all out the options at the back were definitely a bit thin. This was to turn into another high-scoring game, although the first half was to end scoreless. Ince had the first chance for the visitors, saved by Woods. Hyde then scooped a shot over for the Owls, and Gary Pallister came close to scoring an own goal with a header from a corner. United had the last, and maybe best, chance of the half when Lee Sharpe failed to finish after some excellent work by Giggs. Speaking of Giggs, he had overtaken Sharpe as being the ‘new George Best’, and he was certainly showing a lot of promise in the early stages of his career. But this game was to feature a moment in his career that still gets rerun now and he would probably rather forget, as the master embarrassed the apprentice when Chris Waddle went past the youngster not once but twice, the second time dumping Giggs unceremoniously on his arse. I’m sure we’ve all seen the clip on YouTube. Into the second half, and Wednesday quickly took the lead. A quick free kick was played to Chris Bart-Williams and he fired it past Schmeichel for the opening goal. The lead only lasted a few minutes as the visitors came back strongly, Sharpe charging down the left and crossing for Mark Hughes to finish calmly past Woods. Midway through the second half two quick goals from United saw the game go away from the Owls. A fine run and pass from Cantona put Hughes through for his second, then a few minutes later Giggs got his goal as he finished from another Cantona through ball. Wednesday kept going and deservedly got one back with 4 minutes to go when Mark Bright glanced home a header from Waddle’s free kick. There was to be no late equaliser though, and Wednesday were left to reflect on another defeat in a game where they certainly had not disgraced themselves. But with just 7 points to their name from the first 10 games, the Owls were down in 19th place, with only Oldham, Southampton and Swindon beneath them. Final score Wednesday 2-3 Man Utd Wednesday : Woods, Nilsson, King, Palmer, Walker, Waddle, Sinton, Hyde, Sheridan, Bright, Bart-Williams. Unused subs : Pearce, Jones, Pressman United : Schmeichel, Parker, Irwin, Bruce, Pallister, Giggs (Kanchelskis 85), Sharpe, Ince, Keane, Cantona, Hughes. Unused subs : McClair, Sealey Attendance 34,548

Sadly the only impact of a boycott may be that good people lose their jobs sooner.

It wouldn’t be that difficult to package the stadium up as part of the sale. Let’s not forget he hasn’t even finished paying for it yet (which he would have to do if he liquidated the club). I don’t think he’s interested in being the owner of the stadium, it only happened because of the FFP issue.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that, I think they have stoked the fire - on social media more than in the ground - and it’s led to a reaction from Chansiri that could have been avoided. I would be happy to speak to him. I know my onions on corporate transactions and accounting but he needs to want to listen first.

After having had a bit of time to reflect on all that happened yesterday, I think we have to accept that Chansiri has probably reached the point of no return. It’s of course his own fault in the way he has the club, but the actions of 1867 have brought things to a head in a way that could cause serious damage. Both are at fault. We have to start by changing the manager as that’s the only thing that can change things on the pitch. Chansiri could sell tomorrow but with Xisco on charge we would still be fucked. Then Chansiri has to make positive moves to try and move on. Engage an agent to sell the club properly (which he has done before and could be doing now for all we know). Then try and rise above all the nonsense and just don’t react. Stay quiet and let the people at the club run the club. If he can also bring himself to engage with some sensible, knowledgeable fans to try and repair some damage that would also help. Right now he is hurting. In his mind he has pumped money into the club, firstly to try and get promotion then just to keep things going. And now ungrateful (in his mind) fans are giving him stick. Some of which I think we can all agree has been unacceptable. And remember it will only take one person crossing the line to set him off. For his part, Chansiri needs to understand how much this is hurting the fans at the moment, and own his mistakes. A bit of humility would go a long way. In any conflict it’s always better to try and understand the motivations and psychology of your adversary. A bit of that is needed here on both sides.

I honestly think Neil Thompson would get more out of them than this.

This isn’t shaping up to be the greatest of seasons is it

Yeah true, but maybe they weren’t the right people (and I know that sounds arrogant) As for the email, looks fake but if it is real I would have to say it’s poor from Chansiri but also any email to him today is just going to wind him up.

It’s scary actually. There are some out there who genuinely think he is pulling money out of the club.

Personally I would say with someone like DC you try and engage in a considered and organised fashion. But I realise that might not satisfy the need for some to get their point across a bit more quickly and forcefully. I don’t mind a bit of protest but ‘Chansiri out’ has never made sense to me when he is the only source of funding.

That’s a complicated question. But the most likely answer is that we simply don’t have the income to support the level of wages needed for a Championship club. So something or someone needs to make up the difference. And probably best not antagonise it. Don’t get me wrong Chansiri is also at fault here but you cannot deny that, if these empty vessels making all the noise had not waded in, this would not be happening.

I hope you’re right, but even so it probably means we can resign ourselves to some tough times ahead.

So it’s a coincidence that he’s run out of money at the same time as the protests?

To be honest I probably have the credentials and am basically impossible to offend, would be like water off a duck’s back.

This needs the more sensible end of the fan base to engage with DC and let him know that most of us, if not exactly backing him, recognise that things should be done properly and respect the investment he has made. It might get things back on track.

And let’s be clear, DC not putting any more funding in probably means that in the not too distant future the players, staff and HMRC will not be paid. The club is not self sustainable.

This is exactly what those of us who thought the protests were misguided were talking about. It’s like my kids deciding they don’t like the way I run things and asking me to move out.

I think you’re getting mixed up with the Birmingham game the same season when Bullen ended up in goal and Jerome acted the dick after scoring past him.