Hirstys 12th Pint Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Momentarily thought about coming in from the garden then thought twice. Did not even bother with the highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamblor Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Did not even bother with the highlights. Having watched the game, I’m not sure there were any. We have Foden, Bellingham, Saka and Kane. Those four start for pretty much every club out there and need to start every game for England, with the first two being as central as possible. They also all (now) play for clubs who play against all out defence regularly, which England did yesterday. Bellingham being pushed out to the wing to accommodate Henderson is unbelievable, as was bringing Bellingham off. He’s been Real’s best player this season and deserves better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) I wouldn't have played Kane yesterday, never mind Henderson. Foden, Rashford and Grealish for Henderson Maddison and Kane respectively Edited September 10 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 hours ago, Otto_Man said: Herman Maguire getting some hammer for apparently marking one of his team mates when Ukraine scored. Not seen it mind Tbh, Rice was culpable for blame, he let Zinchenko go behind him. But no, those more focussed on blaming Maguire for everything decided that it was his fault. Maguire wasn’t bad yesterday. He was better than Guehi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Maguire s England's best centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I don't gave a problem with Maguire at Centre Half. We are hardly blessed at the moment and I would probably pick him. Henderson on the other hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Maguire got really exposed at man u. Too much space in frint of him when defending, push up and exposed for pace,sit back and get slagged. If Ten Bob is playing Amrabat and Casemiro in front of him it should help, as may Onana playing 20yds higher than De Gea His strength is 18yd line defending and bringing ball out to play forward, not across the back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Maguire has never let England down, and I think he’s an international defender, but he’s not going to be a regular in any top 6 side. Any team that press high, and leave people one on one, he gets destroyed. And any team that keeps possession, it means he’s got to play on the halfway line, and he struggles. @Andyben is right, he’s very very good at defending the 18 yard line. But the issue that England have is that he won’t come out, which brings his midfield players back in. Stones is FAR more adept at that type of play, and Lewis Dunk does it at Brighton. Maguire needs to leave, a lot of the players don’t trust him with the ball and he’s behind 3 others, in what is a pretty poor Man Utd side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) For the second part, @KrolMong, that's lies at Southgate feet. With Rice in his role he can drop to cover HM if he goes forward and quite easily rotate with Stones fr longer periods (HM doesn't have enough to move up to a 6). England have a forward 5 that can shift positions laterally and at times rotate vertically and really break up oppponests lines and defensive structures...IF Kane is replaced by Maddison, Grealish in a false 9, and Foden and Bellingham play as 10s (either of whom can fill the false 9 or play a very advanced central 10) with Rashford and Sakha as the wide strikers. Its crazy the options to change and mix it up during matches with those five up front But would you drop Kane? Edited September 10 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 8 hours ago, Andyben said: I wouldn't have played Kane yesterday, never mind Henderson. Foden, Rashford and Grealish for Henderson Maddison and Kane respectively Thought I read Grealish was one of two that dropped out of the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 A sad indictment of international football, but i had no more than a passing check of the scores, including the England game over the weekend. About as much interest as I had in the rugby World Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 10 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Thought I read Grealish was one of two that dropped out of the squad. He had, injured at the start of last week I believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 10/09/2023 at 15:43, HoylandOwl said: Tbh, Rice was culpable for blame, he let Zinchenko go behind him. But no, those more focussed on blaming Maguire for everything decided that it was his fault. Maguire wasn’t bad yesterday. He was better than Guehi. I think Rice is massively overrated. West Ham are doing better since he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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