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A proper ale house second half led by Callum Paterson. He was outstanding.

We were very fortunate in that we absolutely should have been 5-0 down before we scored our first, but, the effort was there even if the quality wasn’t. And when we got the first, you could feel we would get a second, Norwich were creaking physically.

Massive point.

First goal. Bambo knocks a simple 10 yard pass, 5 yards short. From the throw, he then gets caught not watching and they score. Immediately after, Famewo knocks a simple 10 yard pass to Bannan 2 yards short. They should score. Then, Beadle knocks a simple 10 yards pass 3 yards wide of his target. They score again. Later, Ihiekwe knocks a pass across his back four 10 yards behind his target and out for a throw in on the edge of our box.

Every single pass, most people on here would make them. It is inexcusable for professional footballers to be unable to complete them. And I mean inexcusable. None of the players were facing a press when they gave it away.

Deserved it today. Better side, went a bit longer today and picked up the seconds. I thought, despite the miss, Windass was decent, Bannan and Palmer did well. But, Gassama gets MOM today, although I thought Bambo and Smith were good too.

Aside from them hitting the bar, they’ve not created a lot. And we’ve had decent possession all day. 

7 points from a possible 15 will do it.

Wasn’t a pen for the foul on Gassama. Outside.

We’ve been the better side, horror miss from Windass. Clear plan to target their left side both with the ball and on the press.

Need a goal.

It’s one of the worst misses you will ever see. 

Have a listen.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like the players have downed tools a little bit due to uncertainty over there own futures.

If we go down, I don’t see any scenario at all where Danny Röhl is coach next year.

1. Chansiri will look to blame the coaching staff for this given that, in his eyes, he’s had 35 games to save us.

2. I can’t see that Rohl will want the fun of League One, and his stock will be high enough to get a second division club in the UK or in Germany. He’s largely going to come out of this blameless unless he doesn’t pick up another win this season.

There are several things we need to do away from home…

1. No more 3-4-3.

2. Ugbo has to play down the middle and not wide.

3. One of the back three has to be Liam Palmer if Bernard isn’t fit.

4. If Vaulks is fit, the base of our midfield has to be Palmer and Vaulks. You can then mix the three ahead of them, but Poveda has to be always playing. I’d even be tempted to go with a 3-4-2-1 and have Bannan and Poveda behind Ugbo. 

5. Gassama and Musaba are late subs away from home when we get penned in. But you can’t start either of them. We don’t have the ball which means they are passengers.

6. I want to see evidence of set piece work from the training ground. Röhl has not addressed it, no plan for defending corners and no plan to attacking them. You put the ball in the right area in our box, and you will get a chance.

I can accept teams just being better than us. I can accept opposition players being largely better than ours. I can even accept being rolled over because we’ve tried to have a go.

What I can’t accept is teams doing the basic running bits better than us, I can’t accept us not attempting to put a body on someone, I can’t accept us winning the ball back and not one player wanting to make a forward run. I can’t accept players not being WILLING to get back into defensive shape. I am not willing to accept players jogging instead of sprinting to get back behind the ball. And I can’t accept a coach literally not doing a minutes work on trying to both defend and attack set pieces.

That was a side a today who is thinking of its future away from S6.

When you are in trouble, you have to work hard. We did not today against a very average Boro side with half a team missing.

There were some truly abysmal displays today. Vaulks, Bannan, Johnson, Ugbo, Musaba, Famewo.

Dire. That was as half hearted as I have ever seen.

They’ve been the better side by quite a distance. If their final ball was better we’d be 4 down now. There is a horrifying lack of urgency when we get the ball, and we clearly aren’t working on defending set pieces.

Its an awful display against a very average side.

Interestingly enough, Adam Azeem and Ben Shalom are doing their level best to avoid Dalton. Him and Harlem Eubank had a head to head last night and Shalom made a comment about Smith’s age and experience.

Azeem potentially is a superstar, but, the avoidance of smith at this stage is not helping his cause.

17 hours ago, Skamp said:

Get in piggy bastards. Funny how wildboar hasn't run full length of the pitch to boot a ball off a cone into the crowd.

I sat and watched it. It was an absolutely travesty that Fulham didn’t score 10. They absolutely battered the pigs, Silva was proper pissed off post game. All three pig goals were completely against the run of play.

My argument against Chansiri requesting that I cover some of his losses is that those losses are standard football debt, but it was his job to mitigate them which he didn’t do. So, he needs to accept that and write it off.

I’m valuing the ground and training ground at 15 million combined. And that is purely for the land it sits on (and I am being generous). I know that I can literally do nothing with both other than flog the land and move elsewhere. So, that becomes my cost.

I have the value at less than 30 million.

Chansiris debts are irrelevant here. And we have no outside debt.

Hillsborough is worth 7/8ths of nothing, and the training ground burns money to actually get worse. If you look at it, we generate about 24 million in revenue to make 4 million loss, and is very little value in the playing squad or the academy.

So, if we are a Championship club, I’m going in with a lock stock bid of 50 million, DC can recoup some of his losses.. If we are a league one club, I’m taking 20 million off that.

My understanding was that Birmingham were bought for about 15 million, but that also picked up a lot of debt and a ground in a mess but, and outstanding training set up and academy.

Hudderfield were picked up for less than 30 million including debt write off.

We are worth very little. Think back, what did Milan buy us for? It was way less than 20 million right? That value will not have increased much.

What does everyone think a fair price is for us? So, imagine you have a half a billion knocking about. What are you offering for Wednesday?

20 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Musaba is so good at times, and then so frustrating others. He reminds me of JJ so much in that respect. 

I like Musaba, I think he’ll be a better player than Gassama long term but I think both will be very good players.

Musaba is very good at running into open space. It’s not just about receiving the ball and beating someone, he wants to get behind people. With both Gassama and Musaba, the biggest weakness is the final decision. That’s what has to improve and will come with more experience in this league.

Oddly, I thought we improved when Johnson and Valentin got up the pitch, but, both players final decisions were really bad. I thought Valentin was very close to man of the match today. Vaulks pipped him just.

In fairness, I don’t think there were any bad displays with the exception of Malik Wilks who was atrocious again.

But… every goal we concede is avoidable. And whilst we create a lot. We miss a lot. Outside of Ugbo and maybe Cadamarteri, we dont have a hang your hat poacher. And goals are not coming from other areas, beyond the odd one or two from a Musaba or Gassama.

Quite an incredible stat this is that not one central defender has found the net this season. The centre of our midfield has amassed a total of 5 goals this season. Those two stats alone are atrocious.

1 minute ago, TheExile said:

That equaliser was like so many we’ve seen in this situation over the years. Completely out of nowhere 

We were not marking from set pieces earlier. But this time we let their best header of a ball stand 7 yards out completely unmarked. Abysmal. 

Our season in a nutshell.

5 or 6 absolute sitters missed. Absolutely embarrassing defending leading to an equaliser, and teams around us winning games against the form book.

Absolute win at all costs on Monday now. 13 points from 7 needed to stay up.

Awful goal to concede. Free header from five yards. We’ve created and missed the better chances but we’ve been poor today. Just not kept the ball.

If we were to move, it would need to be out Meadowhall way or south east of the city.

9 hours ago, mkowl said:

I am aware of one, though not given that info from anyone linked to a protest group 

The problem is Chansiri wants investors to make an heads of term offer without any access to information beyond the statutory accounts. Can they do that, ordinarily there would be recourse to a bit more information, clearly not full due diligence level as that would arise post the offer being made 

But there would be a bit more than accounts that are 8 months out of date and for a different league 

Credibility works both ways and I am not sure Chansiri is perceived as a person you could do a deal with if he won't give info to even make an offer 

That is very much true. Chansiri has wanted a formal offer without allowing those suitors access to information. And it’s more than one party that has faced this too.

Chansiri’s stance is actually that when he gets an offer he likes, he will open up the books. No one has got to that stage. No one also knows if he is willing to negotiate after any prospective owner does there own due diligence.

He’s also fairly steadfast on what he thinks the value of the club is in its current state.

It was a really poor game. And oddly enough, the longer the game went on, the more Poland fancied it. That was echoed by the support as well.

When the plan A, ale house to Moore (who I though was good) stopped working, and Poland brought on Bart Salamon and hooked Bednarek, the game shifted.

They both looked like two playoff chasing Championship teams.

Poland have a couple of very good players. Przemek Frankowski (the right wing back and the reason why Matty Cash can’t get a kick now). Zalewski, the left wing back is good too. But beyond that, and the obvious names like Kiwior, Zielinski and Lewy, it’s not a great squad.

He’s got potential to get to the top table. But it’s a horrible division to be in. Just look at the British fighters in there, you’ve got Catterall and Taylor. And those on the top table now are not just great, but elite.

It would be good to see him in with someone like Ohara Davies or Sandor Martin next. Decent step up in class.

He’s not remotely ready for a world title shot. He’s not fought any of the current top 15, and he’s only in the top 15 in one of the orgs. But, he will start climbing the ladder and he will step up the opposition.

It might take him 6 fights to get a mandatory position and he needs to start fighting ranked fighters.