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37 minutes ago, fOWLmouth said:

Quite interesting reading the comments between you both re. the use of the English language.Were you educated in this country or did you arrive in adulthood?I only ask because,very often, people who settle here seem to have a better grasp of the grammar than lazy twats like myself who couldn’t be arsed with school.

More to the point,how about Frickley Athletic or Pontefract Collieries?They are easy for me to get to.

A lot comes from how languages are structured. Because English is a mish mash of many languages and styles a lot if our grammar is intuitive, we don't know ow why we use phrases and words, it's just how it works.

Most other languages are much more structured, so when learning English, it's in a more structured way, so sometimes seems much more grammatically correct then a native speaker.

49 minutes ago, bazapeps said:

I know in terms of the 2 meetings that were held but the complete reluctance of him to provide perfectly reasonable information, thus making things a total waste of time. And various other occasions where he's simply refused to have a conversation at all. That and the information in his own statements where he's said he's never considered selling. Perhaps some part of it is down to valuation, I really don't know on that front though.

Re, your question about why I think he needs to sell up - not sure if that's a broad question or not. As I guess the reasons have been covered numerous times but perhaps the debate is whether there's a right to ask an owner to sell up or not. Can see both sides of that. Though in DC's own words he did say he'd sell when the fans dont want him (granted it would be impossible to ever ascertain the split of who would / wouldn't that)

How can you not consider selling but then have meetings about selling?

Also, provide information to whom?

Genuine buyers or yourselves/press?

For reasons to sell, does any one of those reasons justify him selling at a massive loss?

Thought it was 14 days after the last game, so would usually fall on the 3rd Saturday of May, but last season was near the end.

Just now, Alan Finney said:

TBH with you, after seeing some of his interviews after the game I thought it was a done deal the way he was speaking. If this is all true and he has signed or about to then you'd like to think it's what Rohl wants, but it is a murky area that, what the manager and club wants I mean. Usually aligned, but by no means always.

He even says that Chansiri has always said, as long as he has his legs, he has a contract.

Chansiri has a massive blind spot with Bannan, I don't think the manager matters where he's concerned.

1 minute ago, Alan Finney said:

According to a usually reliable poster on another SM site, Barry Bannan had agreed a new contract with the club prior the last game.

He obviously thinks he's too good for League One, so thinks he must be starting.

Must be what Röhl was on about when he was talking about having an idea and being able to implement that idea. There's no way he can play the 2 x 6s in the way he wants to play with Bannan here.

1 minute ago, Alan Finney said:

I've been trying to find out for a bit to be honest. I did look on Transfermarkt but it isn't disclosed on there either. I reckon he has another year, minimum ffs.

Joe Crann had him down for another year, but may have been an option for one.

2 minutes ago, Alan Finney said:

Maybe he was just temporary then like the bloke who came in after Downes left whose name now escapes me. Never heard any reports of Beadell leaving though.

Looks like he was brought in as a consultant.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kevin-beadell?trk=public_post_feed-actor-name

38 minutes ago, Alan Finney said:

I thought Beadell had filled that role. Has he left or is it a different position altogether that he occupies.

To be fair to Beadell, he's almost certainly the one who got Ugbo in.

He sorted the initial loan to Cardiff from Troyes in the summer.

Good question though. What happened to him?

Just now, Andyben said:

DC is in charge of the Club, DR just the team, Barry 

Don't think Barry believes that.

DC has pandered to him for too long while BB cries to the press at every opportunity. 

If DC has any balls about him or reads the media, Barry Bannan shouldn't be getting anything but a cheery wave as he heads out the door.

10 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

 

Today, especially, I'm not focussing on our fanbase negatives. I do believe that we do need to alter the balance of how our financial resources are employed however and hope that the embryonic plans mentioned by Tylluan come to fruition. More generally I hope that DR and DC can settle on a way forward expediently and we have a summer of non turbulence.

 

 

DC's default position is non turbulence. 

He only rocks up when it's going tits up.

29 signings for DM in League 1, mostly early.

The only time he turns up are to get the transfers through and when DM shit the bed last spring.

Recruitment plan for last summer done and dusted, ready to be implemented when the window opened, verified by David Downes, DC and DM.

The turbulence last summer was all DM.

But DM's a gentleman and he could never lie, despite the now forgotten admission that he did lie.

13 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

We do and its being driven and orchestrated by a nucleus of DC haters (not too strong a word). That aside I think that DR, especially, is clear in his mind that we have to improve our operation significantly aside from just the first team personnel.

If as @Tylluanhas said is true, then the improvements to the training situation are already being looked at, but that won't matter.

The fanbase these days are in the Sky Sports generation, where money is everything. They want to 'win' the transfer window with fees with loads of zeros,  they want a big, shiny training ground with all the mod cons.

It's all about how much you can crow about on X, aboit being able to call other clubs tinpot, about not being embarrased because so much of your own identity is tied into the club, not about actual effectiveness.

They won't say it, but nothing less than spendageddon mk.2 will satisfy some.

We will always be compared to the exceptions, Brighton did it, Ipswich did it, etc. and never to the other 80 odd clubs who didn't. 

3 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

Agreed and DR is dropping clear hints at a need for improved infrastructure. Balancing the finances is tricky - fans crave sexy player signings - but improvements 'behind the scenes' are clearly required. 

My guess is that there will be investment but whether that extends to appointing a skilled person to implement a new vision; I doubt. DC does seem to prefer his 'advisers'.

Having a look round some other forums, it's amazing how many of the other team's issues seemingly come from their 'infrastructure'

Fans of Blackburn, Sunderland, Millwall, Birmingham, Huddersfield and many others blame most of their issues at points this season on CEOs and off field management interfering with the footballing side.

We have a massive issue at this club of everything bad automatically being Chansir/Paxo and anything good coming from the manager.

DC's biggest issue is exactly what he said it was at the fan's forum.

It doesn't matter what he does or says as there are those with an agenda who will twist it to suit their purposes.

7 minutes ago, mkowl said:

I suspect Rohl wants him to stay though. How we fit him in will be interesting, will we change system moving forward, if Rohl gets the players in he would like. 

 

There's no way we can build the team around him starting.

I'm surprised he's already been told he's getting a contract.

DR has a vision, but he's found out Bannan's staying so he now has the headache of working out how to do it with half a midfield.

Before contract extensions, DR has:

16 squad places.

3 work permit waivers.

5 matchday loan spots.

2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Not all of them. But I see what you mean.

Which aren't?

TWW and WTID, which I expect are the main two have this week.

2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Amidst all the positivity. 

Seen a post (and I'm paraphrasing) basically suggesting DC won't back DR. So he'll leave. 

Give it a rest will you for ONE DAY. 

 

When OT, the BBC, the Star, and all the podcasters are saying it, what do you expect?

Two teams with new American ownership sack their managers after a reasonable start and get relegated.

One team has a nightmare start then appoints a man with no managerial experience, supports him with an existing manager that he knows and a former manager from the England setup as assistants and Ralph Ragnick's psychologist.

Luck is getting him in on his own and a miracle happening. Getting him in and fully supporting him with much more experienced people round him is not luck, it's planned.

Maybe people need to step back and realise that maybe Chansiri does know what he's doing.

What's happening with every story currently suggesting that DR will walk unless Chansiri gives him everything he wants?

Just now, Chelters said:

We would need Sunderland, Plymouth and Birmingham to all score to put us in trouble. If Plymouth or Brum concede they will need two more etc etc

So basically at kick off we can relax (ish) as three things need to happen before we worry. 

Think it may be because you put Hull conceding in the first post, not Plymouth.

3 minutes ago, olblueties said:

I admire the confidence of the poster going for us rattling 4 or more by them.

 

It'll be like the Portsmouth last game a couple of years ago, they'll have a go at the start, but as soon as we score, they'll just pack up.