Reason for optimism?

[Tank_Owl2,0]

I don’t go on stalk that often but ventured on to see if I could find an old pic I thought I’d seen on there previously.

Anyway I saw this image which was quite interesting if not earth shattering which suggest we are in a worse position than on average our stats say we should be. On the same thread some also mentioned that if you add in the horrendous refereeing decisions we’ve been on the wrong end of we could be a few points better off. Now I’m not saying prior to DR rocking up it hasn’t been awful but maybe just maybe the averages might swing our way and we can creep out of the bottom 3.

[NorwichOwl]

Not a lot of damage done tonight.

[Tank_Owl2,0]

Oh for 3pts tomorrow, the rest of the clubs in the league would seem so much more catchable with the games coming in the next few weeks. Mind you it would be so Wednesday to win tomorrow night and then choke in the home games.

[Tylluan]

That graph is based on xG, individual shot to goal ratio. The fact that we've gone games without a shot on target greatly decreases our xG when compared to Leeds and Leicester but I could pull up a defensive graph that would show Leicester to be mid table. 

[Reesh]

For retards yes. 

[Skamp]

Every time I see the ridiculous XG bollox on MOTD, it never bears any resemblance to the actual score. Often, it doesn't even reflect the result of the game.

[Reesh]

3 minutes ago, Skamp said:

Every time I see the ridiculous XG bollox on MOTD, it never bears any resemblance to the actual score. Often, it doesn't even reflect the result of the game.

As I said, it is used by retards to make the game more complicated than it is.

[owl71]

Also used by Brentford as a data input to the algorithms they use in their recruitment setup…which is hardly a miserable failure.  But yeah, simplistic statistics with no context can say whatever you want them to say.

[Andyben]

Brentford (and others) will use it as one of several dozen metrics and ultimately still rely on the human input, in itself xG means nothing other than what it represents to and the strict parameters used to 'calculate' it.

[Tylluan]

I know of 3 lads who travel round Europe for Brentford just sourcing players. They watch then send the names back and the analytical process begins. The analysts then send field ops back out to watch on certain parameters to confirm the stats and a decision is made then.  

Between them they 'found' Mads Roerslev and Frank Onyeka in Denmark but they were 2 out of about 25 they sourced. Some of those went on to other clubs. 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Tylluan

[Owling_Wolf]

"Lies, damn lies and statistics."

[Tank_Owl2,0]

14 hours ago, Reesh said:

As I said, it is used by retards to make the game more complicated than it is.

On the whole I agree it’s only a tool in the coaches kit bag but our current head coach seems to take an interest in it.