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2 hours ago, CasbahOwl said:

Cheers mate…….. Just back from my latest suspension on OT ………. Totally censored for a month, not allowed to post!

You only get full stripes on here once you are permanently banned from there 

1 hour ago, Gary Wainwright said:

Morning……. It was me that posted on the other forum about my mate in the grey jumper not even being at the game……. There’s been a couple of twists since the thread on the other forum was binned this morning!

First & foremost my mate did not attend Friday & watched at home instead, this in itself means the photo can not have been taken Friday night ….. He even said he was that fucked off with the performance that he turned over after the third goal & watched the snooker instead!

Now it starts getting sinister…….. Having been peppered all day yesterday by people saying did you see the two sickos waving the BL photo on their phone  ……. They were sat in front of you ……….. He decided to call SYP yesterday afternoon & tell them the photo must be fake as he appears in it & he never left the house Friday night. SYP took his details & said they’d call him back for a statement…… They didn’t.

This bothered him so much with all the publicity it’s getting that he’s now gone down to Ecclesfield Nick to report it personally, it opened at 10am and he’s there now

The other thing that’s really bothering him is the grey top he’s wearing in the photo, it’s a Levi’s sweatshirt & he says he hasn’t worn it in over a year …. but whats really scary sinister is someone has gone to the trouble of photoshopping a Stone Island badge on his arm!

My mate has never met the two arrested lads & has absolutely no connection to them & is not trying to protect them in any way ….. Something very very wrong here!

 

Welcome one of the sane posters from Stalk, we are all banned from there 😀.

I find it very troubling if this has been photoshopped. Particularly these days as you are hung drawn and quartered on the presumption of guilt, lose your job etc.

Don't get me wrong if these lads did it then every bit of shit they get will be deserved. But if they didn't then I suspect there will be zero apologies for them from those castigate them 

23 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said:

Just noticed the late afternoon match on sky today is fucking women's football. 🙄

Apparently it's a new equality and diversity law that its mandatory to be excited about the return of the WSL.

Or it might be Sky want you to watch the Ryder Cup 

9 hours ago, Billysboy said:

I was there in the time you mention, stood on an open kop with 7,000 there losing 0-1 to Oxford or some shit. We just went for the football, you'd boo,even cheer if the odd goal went in but it was just going to watch a match. I really cant imagine what it would have been like if social media was about then, now it just gives air time to every would be potential chairman, and millionaire, and other shelf stackers stuck in their dream world. Wish it was those days again when the gobby twat in the pub just got twatted.

The point I was making is that from that era we only ever hear the tales from the stoic lot that attended games still.

There were probably 15k fans who simply stopped going. Clearly us being shit was one reason, but so was hooliganism, economic decline, rampant inflation. 

I think Wednesday fans are attuned to the ups and downs football brings. I laugh that my first game in April 74 v Bolton was a relegation avoided. I went when we beat Southend in 76. My baseline entry point was quite low really. 

In the main Wednesday fans don't protest, they turn apathetic and vote with their feet. 

19 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

Didn't the TUF branding have to disappear because the son of the other bloke who owns TUF owned Reading at the same time? 

Sure the Fa/EFL did an investigation to make sure Chansiri and the Reading owner were funded separately 

Make sure it wasn't a red herring 

Just now, Winco said:

Shit like this can cause massive problems between supporters so the old bill really wanna get on top of it quickly.

especially now it’s getting national news coverage!

we look a set of fuckers taking piss out of a dying child. 

Tbh Winco the 2 lads do - if they did it. The Club have condemned it, the fan base have and a Just Giving page set up as well.

Be grateful at least they couldn't be on the Leppings Lane End

6 hours ago, MAL said:

I should have added that I think, in my personal opinion, the photos are not real.

It was just a bit of information. 

I mean the bit I did read on Stalk on a closed thread suggested these lads are the type that could do it, not necessarily that they did.

You almost ponder it could be a revenge scenario.

As EBRA suggests a decent poster on Stalk states that a friend of his is shown in the seats behind on this pic - and didn't attend the game Friday. 

We need a VAR check ......

I mean you are a twat if you did this.

But if a person photoshopped it you are a seriously sick individual

7 minutes ago, Winco said:

Another hiding I’m afraid.

they will just come out steam roller us and relax like Sunderland did.

it’s too easy for decent teams to score against us.

True and it's not like we have the athleticism to catch teams on the counter attack. So teams can get numbers in our half almost without risk

8 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Are you old enough to remember cushions being thrown onto the pitch in protest (at the refereeing?) at the end of the 1960s?  I think it was in the relegation season from the old First Division, 1969/70.

The cushions were individually rented from the club by patrons of the seated stands and, following this atrocity 🙂 this nicety was withdrawn from offer.  I've a feeling we were penalised somehow by the football authorities. 

Just old enough to remember the back end of this "tradition" in the late 70s. The North was probably sparsely populated in reality but with 5 minutes to go they would start to be lobbed. The ones from the back not quite reaching the pitch, the odd one getting the lino. Very famous picture of the end of the League Cup replay Villa v Everton in 77 with hundreds on the pitch.

I think the deposit went up to stop the behaviour.

The original padded seat, slightly different to the social media influencer that checks out corporate that uses that moniker

I am looking forward to voting on September's goal of the month competition

If you wanted to believe that corruption was rife and a few were in the pay of some Far East betting syndicates then there was some compelling, if not definitive, evidence.

The red card for Jones was one of those i thought where the foot deflects off the ball, but again the replays shown on field did not appear to include the one Sky showed in the game

What I can't grasp is that every goal is microanalysed to death to find ways to disallow it, but this was judged solely by the on field officials. Strange 

23 minutes ago, Winco said:

I wonder if DC has the blessing of his family in all of this? After all DC isn’t even a member of the board on TUF, so surely the money that has bankrolled us isn’t officially his?

Why hasnt TUF come in with some business managers or whatever kingmong or AB is to sort out this mess?

cause the money has a origin and it ain’t DC.

Not sure there is any evidence the money comes from TUF directly. Chansiri may get a dividend from the profits but his holding is less than 0.5%.

There was talk of a construction business in Thailand 

But he could easily be the front for an investment syndicate, maybe involving the family.

I still think peer pressure from Thailand is the more likely way he would sell up 

Everybody goes with the intention of supporting the team. Most the fan base are simply uninterested in off the field stuff until they twig the crap on the pitch is probably caused by that off it. 

Wednesday fans have always gone the apathetic route. I mean a few on here remember the mid 70s and it was worse then in reality than now. We hear the tales of those that went, the away game madness but never where the 15k to 20k fans disappeared. I do remember a Save Our Owls campaign in The Star that basically fizzled out. My formative years were played in the stadium with huge gaps on the Kop and the seats. 

Ironically no protests at football, probably because they were ten a penny in society as a whole.

As daft as it sounds the impact would probably be modest. You should never conflate turnover with profit when it comes to merchandise and hospitality 

Ticket sales maybe but the vast majority of our turnover comes from season ticket sales, so already in the books for this season.

Then TV revenues are pretty fixed - variable element may be lower as the season progresses if we are down the bottom.

Home ticket sales are going to be low whilst ever we are playing poorly and bottom of the league. 

The hit will definitely be season ticket revenues for the 2024/25 season

25 minutes ago, Chelters said:

It wouldn’t be that difficult to package the stadium up as part of the sale. Let’s not forget he hasn’t even finished paying for it yet (which he would have to do if he liquidated the club). 
I don’t think he’s interested in being the owner of the stadium, it only happened because of the FFP issue.

Don't disagree, it would be eminently sensible for the stadium to be wrapped up in any sale.

My context is whether he could if he wanted detonate either 

Just now, Skamp said:

Assume he winds the club up. What does he get? The playing staff will immediately be free agents and the shirts in the club shop will be returned.

He'd be better off letting it go for £5 and keeping the 2 grounds, at least he'll have a tenant for 5 years or so before it's developed into student flats on both sites.

 

I don't think he would ever wind up the company, he has put too much money in and he would probably get a decent sum even just selling the football side 

I still think it would be option 2 because he would get the rent at least or could sell Sheffield 3 with the commercial value of that lease the key determinant 

Crikey didn't realise Cheltenham have failed to score in the first 10 games. They needed us to be in the same league to break that voodoo

28 minutes ago, TheExile said:

Chansiri has been the architect of his own downfall since the departure of Darren Moore. So many people were at the point of giving him a chance again but the 3/4 statements and the Carlton Palmer press conference coupled with poor recruitment and managerial choices everything has come to a head. With some Milan Mandaric style media management, he could have avoided this.

The real issue is the constant bad calls, lack of planning, research, infrastructure and not rewarding non playing staff in line with competitors etc (I don’t mean managers but the others who make a club work) which has us where we are now. Another owner with less money could come in and do better at that IMO. I’m not convinced Chansiri has that much these days anyway.

I have always given him the benefit of the doubt and disliked the lack of balance re him on social media generally  as he’s put loads into this but how he’s come across since the summer and especially on Friday it’s evaporated any hope of success with him for me. It’s just catch 22 given the financial reliance on him, so admittedly it’s a an awful feeling for those of us who follow closely. Despite what he says I don’t think he wins a battle with the fan base over time.

 

Well he has 2 nuclear options

Just wind up the company or

Sell the football side and keep the stadium

It'll be fun on Praise or Grumble, 1 draw 5 defeats over the match weekend 

2 minutes ago, Otto_Man said:

 

This is my point, unless you've been in the premier league fairly recently you have no capacity to spend money, regardless of how much a new owner is or isn't willing to commit.

Even if we bring in a new owner they'll still be constrained by the same rules DC is. I get the argument about making it financially viable, but let's be right, majority of our fanbase only want to turn up if there's a chance of glory. Doubt we'd sell the ground out week in week out in the Prem.

There is a clear dichotomy, you either have Financial Fair Play and try and get some stability in football finances (including ticket prices, merchandise and TV packages) or let it go to a free for all. Which fans will pay the price for and enhanced risk of clubs collapsing.

9 minutes ago, Chelters said:

After having had a bit of time to reflect on all that happened yesterday, I think we have to accept that Chansiri has probably reached the point of no return. It’s of course his own fault in the way he has the club, but the actions of 1867 have brought things to a head in a way that could cause serious damage. Both are at fault.

We have to start by changing the manager as that’s the only thing that can change things on the pitch. Chansiri could sell tomorrow but with Xisco on charge we would still be fucked.

Then Chansiri has to make positive moves to try and move on. Engage an agent to sell the club properly (which he has done before and could be doing now for all we know). Then try and rise above all the nonsense and just don’t react. Stay quiet and let the people at the club run the club. If he can also bring himself to engage with some sensible, knowledgeable fans to try and repair some damage that would also help.

Right now he is hurting. In his mind he has pumped money into the club, firstly to try and get promotion then just to keep things going. And now ungrateful (in his mind) fans are giving him stick. Some of which I think we can all agree has been unacceptable. And remember it will only take one person crossing the line to set him off.

For his part, Chansiri needs to understand how much this is hurting the fans at the moment, and own his mistakes. A bit of humility would go a long way.

In any conflict it’s always better to try and understand the motivations and psychology of your adversary. A bit of that is needed here on both sides.

I am not convinced he would talk to anyone unless he saw them as an equal in terms of wealth. 

Leeds playing in blue as well

Not a good first 30 minutes for another team in blue n white stripes 

1 hour ago, Winco said:

That was probably the worst 45 minutes from a Wednesday I’ve seen. Forget what the chairman has said and done nothing can excuse professional footballers essentially downing tools. 
 

I left at half time, first time ever I’ve left that early. 
soul destroying performance and I hope they hand there wages to a charity cause they should be ashamed.

 

If they get wages moving forward.

Only Chansiri knows what he meant by "no additional funds". Simply conjecture as to what it means in practice.

Only once in my career did my then boss suggest funds were tight and staff may not be paid in full. Jeez the reaction and metaphorical downing of calculators that caused. By the professionally qualified staff as well

To suggest a professional footballer would not or should not be impacted by negative financial conjecture is a bit naive. To me that was a factor last night