HoylandOwl Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Leojo Davidson, Will Trueman, Paulo Aguas and Josh Ashman have all either played for or trained with the senior side under Darren Moore, and suggestions are that all four are looking likely to leave once their current deals expire at the end of the 2022/23 campaign. https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-quartet-amongst-those-looking-likely-to-leave-the-owls-4127435 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 And another reason why we should totally restructure the current set up. Aguas, Davidson and Trueman should have pushed on to at least have challenged for squad inclusion. To say that Moore started his coaching career with West Brom's youth system he doesn't seem sure about how to integrate the younger players into a first team environment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 You can only integrate those good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Dunno, we managed to integrate Palmer eventually. We just have to keep getting worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 That’s because Palmer was good enough, anyone that saw him at Hallam in a pre season friendly around 18 could see he’d make it as a pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2023/may/owls-announce-academy-retained-list/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4ever1867 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 22 hours ago, Tylluan said: And another reason why we should totally restructure the current set up. Aguas, Davidson and Trueman should have pushed on to at least have challenged for squad inclusion. To say that Moore started his coaching career with West Brom's youth system he doesn't seem sure about how to integrate the younger players into a first team environment I'll hold my hands up & admit I know nothing about these kids & how good they are but I've heard nothing but good things about all 3 of these kids but yet they are released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmesfield_owl Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Trueman seemed to be doing well, not sure what happened there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 It'll be interesting to see how many move up from the 18s because all three could have done, at least, another year in the 21s. If we move players up that have genuine ability and are considered better long-term prospects then I've no problem with the club saying maybe it's time you tried somewhere else (as Moore says in that vid). But these three were also considered long term prospects, Trueman was voted LfE apprentice of the year, and if we end up filling their spaces with trialists that were released from other clubs then it just shows how backwards our academy is. I'm also interested to see if Shipston and Durrant push on next season, especially if we're in the championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just seen something on Twitter that we have lost Cat 2 status at the Academy. Heard anything @Tylluan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Just seen something on Twitter that we have lost Cat 2 status at the Academy. Heard anything @Tylluan ? Got a link to the tweet? Be very easy to check credibility for this rumour if you can post the tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 17 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Got a link to the tweet? Be very easy to check credibility for this rumour if you can post the tweet It was someone asking Joe Crann to look into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just read that David Downes had left the club and joined Blackpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 11 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: It was someone asking Joe Crann to look into. Crann/ The Stir So that's Cat 1 status confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Just seen something on Twitter that we have lost Cat 2 status at the Academy. Heard anything @Tylluan ? Not heard a thing but unless we're seriously downgrading the academy staffing then we'd be unlikely to lose our Cat2 status, unless we're self downgrading to Cat4, like Huddersfield did, and doing the B team route. Category 1 academy, has around 100 staff members, but clubs such as Sheffield Wednesday or Charlton Athletic have around 20 members of staff, and from those, on a full time basis you’ll probably only see 10 of them daily. Category 3 academies, such as a club like Rochdale, will generally have even lower staffing levels. They will have an Academy Manager, an under-23s coach, and potentially a part time under-18s coach. The performance analyst will more than likely be assigned solely to the first team, looking at the youth levels for under-23s right down to the under-9s on his day off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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