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Should I?

…..this happened.

I was there that day and it still ranks as one of the best Wednesday goals I’ve ever seen.

3-1 win which guaranteed our survival and as good as relegated Newcastle. This goal put us 3-1 up and despite the Geordies knowing it was a nail in the coffin for them, there was a decent round of applause from them in recognition of the strike.

Other thing of note that day was that Dean Barrick made his debut, scoring one and assisting another.

35 years ago though - makes me feel old! 
 

1 minute ago, Andyben said:

No because they're different 

Maybe that’s the ‘playful activity’ on the flag Nike were referencing. 

Not saying it is, but the similarity is there. Coincidence? 

Joey Barton’s view on it. Does he have a point?

I wasn’t that bothered about the St. George’s flag to start with but I have to admit I am starting to feel a little incensed about it now.

You don’t piss about changing the colours of a nations flag and, as has been pointed out already, there’ll be some countries flags that Nike wouldn’t have dared to change or fook about with! 

I love reading stuff like this. 

He comes across as a decent, very level headed and mature young man. Nothing better than seeing young players come through the ranks and make it to the first team. Hope it works out for him at SWFC.

My dad’s 77th birthday tomorrow so spending some time with him. Mum is housebound and dad isn’t good on his feet, so as I can’t take them out I’ll be bringing them fish n chips from their favourite chippy!

Tomorrow night will probably involve a visit to the local for a few beers!

If we stay up it will be in spite of Munoz. Absolute disaster of an appointment! 

Worst manager in all my time of watching SWFC. We’d be below Rotherham now if we’d still got him in charge. 

13 hours ago, Kiwi Owl said:

Quite a few fans that were banned used to go to the host of where Wednesday were playing but never went to the match.

As an example, a chap called Paul used to come with us on some away journeys but never attended the game whilst his sons did. He just found a pub and stayed there for the duration of the game. We'd then catch up with him after the game before heading back to Sheffield. 

Ricky may have been like that. Happily sit in a pub near where Wednesday are playing and wait there till the game finished. Then head back with away fans to Yorkshire.

 

I remember doing that at Port Vale and QPR many moons ago. Difference is I had match tickets for both games and wasn’t banned from attending matches.

At the Port Vale game I actually got to the turnstile, said “fuck this” to the lads I was with (or words to that effect) turned round and went to find the nearest pub. Face on the copper stood next to the turnstile was an absolute picture!

Back then I loved going away, but the away days kept getting spoiled by having to watch Wednesday! 😂

DC = legend for that response alone! 😂

2 hours ago, Bronco said:

Amazing how anyone can see a 6-0 pasting as a sign we will stay up. To me it is indicative of a relegation side and I take no positives from it.

That’s because we can still see the bigger picture and don’t have it in for the club.

Hutchinson was Championship Player of the Month in February and on what he showed yesterday I’d have him up there for the award this month as well. We won’t face players like him every game, that’s for sure.

Birmingham can’t buy a win, Huddersfield couldn’t beat ToyTown. If we finish above those two clubs, which isn’t an impossibility, we stay up, simple as that. 

We also have a more comfortable run in than some of the teams around us, and whilst that doesn’t mean the points are in the bag, it does mean that on paper at least we have a better statistical chance to pick up points than some of the teams in and around us.

Im just pleased that with eight games to go we’re still in with a chance of staying up and that our fate is still in our own hands. At the start of the season I said I’d happily take fourth bottom and I still would.

5 wins from 8 and we are definitely safe.

4 wins from 8 and it’s still possible.

Less than that and who knows?

Today’s result changes nothing. We’re still in charge of our own destiny.

If there is a game(s) that we might look back on it’s that 4-0 reversal at The McAlpine (and the home defeat to Millwall), not the one today. They are the results that might have the biggest impact on where we finish in the league this season.

3 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Wait on. Rotherham scored 3 at their place. Ipswich usually concede goals. Why did we have to go down nil to 6. Let Rohl try to talk his way out of that but who would listen? 

When we did create chances, one from Poveda excepted which the keeper did well to turn round the post, the ‘quality’ of strike, if quality is the right term to use, was absolutely fucking abysmal. 

Serious questions around effort today. Beatings I can accept, but a lack of effort I can’t. 

DR needs to kick some arse tonight! 

Teams around us aren’t winning, so that’s a positive if it can stay like that.

Goal difference was against us anyway. Just hope we don’t get anymore injuries, or a sending off.

Don’t think I’ll be tuning in for the second half.

1 minute ago, MAL said:

Brum 0 - 1 Watford

First time them bastards have done anything to help us in recent weeks.

Just now, MAL said:

All over

 

Beat me to it.

I think today is about damage limitation and not losing too much ground on the teams around us.

Not given up hope or thrown in the towel just yet, but this was always going to be a very tough game for us.

Looks like it’s going to be a long, hard afternoon on this showing. We have no answer to them. 

Fucks sake! 😡

Looks like DR is going for it with that XI. 

My Ipswich supporting mate is worried about this one. Says they aren’t playing all that well just now and have been quite vulnerable at the back recently. 

Hope he’s right to have those worries. 

Come on Wednesday! 🦉🔵⚪️🔵⚪️🦉

I’m not convinced as much as a third despise Chansiri either. I think a 10-80-10 split is more like it, but I’ve nothing concrete to base it on.

I’ll try and see this from an 1867 Group perspective for the next few lines of this post.

First thing, members of the group need to push personal feelings to one side, I know through my Dave Allen protesting time that forcing personal opinions on supporters ain’t the best approach.

But what is clear is that there’s strong feelings within the group that Chansiri isn’t the man for the club, hence setting it up in the first place. So what’s the best way to go about things in an attempt to get him to relinquish the club? Obvious one, which is what has happened, is to protest. The first protest, which was intended to be a disruptive one, didn’t work and with the club being in the predicament it is in, there’s a balancing act between protests having the desired effect and impacting negatively on the team on the pitch - which nobody wants. 

So the group have reflected on this and have now decided to continue to protest, but in a way where protests stop when the match kicks off. Clearly it has had some impact in terms of supporters holding up flyers to show their dissatisfaction, but in terms of achieving anything, that’s negligible at best.

So what next - well if it was me on that group I’d be stopping with the protests and suggesting that the group focused wholly on finding a potential investor/buyer. It’s the only credible way forward in tackling Chansiri head on and his custodianship of the club. If/when this investor/buyer is found, then perhaps release a statement that this is the case and that the group wishes to extend an olive branch to DC and help broker/support constructive dialogue and communications with said potential investor/buyer and DC in an attempt to find a new owner for the club (that doesn’t mean be involved in discussions, it’s not what a supporters group is about, however, there’s nothing wrong with the group stating that if a new owner is found, this is what we would like to see happen).

When the above stage is reached (if it ever is) then the 1867 Group is going to face little resistance or ridicule from supporters over what they are working for and hoping to help achieve - and more importantly they will have increased their credibility.

This has to be the only logical and realistic way forward. Anything else is just antagonising DC and divisive, particularly of the supporter base - and it achieves nothing.

I know what it’s like to protest against the club owners. It takes a lot out of you, it frustrates you, it demoralises you and it ends up with you alienating and pissing off fellow supporters - you don’t ‘win’ even if you succeed in what you set out to achieve, because those battle scars from the fight still remain. So instead of pushing against the clubs regime, as I did, try to do something to engage with them, in a constructive manner - but before you’re able to do that you must have something that you can bring to the table - and it seems to me that we’re still a long way off that yet.

5 hours ago, EBRA said:

It’s up there with reading as one the crapist away days …

 

yep I’ll be there early doors - never learn me!

Not in 90-91 it wasn’t mate. What a day and game that was. Up there in my top 10 away days! 

A 2-0 win even with Hirst hitting the crossbar with a penalty - I’d definitely settle for that scoreline tomorrow. 😊

6 hours ago, Jake said:

I suppose you’d have to ask the people suggesting that, it can’t be proven 100% either way without a supporter ballot, which is never going to happen. In my personal experience, the majority I speak to (this site aside), don’t approve of Chansiri’s running of the club. That’s going to be different for some individuals though I’d guess. 

That doesn’t necessarily mean they support the 1867 group either way, I appreciate that is a different question. 

You can’t make a sweeping statement like that I’m afraid. 

Do I approve of Chansiri’s running of the club? Not necessarily, but things aren’t as doom and gloom as is being reported and there is clear evidence that he is learning from and trying to rectify a number of past mistakes. 

My view is, and I dare say it’s a similar one to that held by many on here, is that nobody who wants him out can put forward a straight forward argument around then what? There’s absolutely no thought process behind it, just that he must go. No regard to who then comes in, no regard to the fact we might end up with someone worse, no regard to anything at all really.

Start answering some questions about a post-Chansiri club, tell us who is waiting in the wings to take over, convince us that they have proof of funds and then tell us what they will do to take the club forwards and put it into a better position than it is today. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, has been able to do that, which is why and where a protest group 1867 loses credibility. When you convince us there’s a better option out there, posters on here will listen, but until then, and quite rightly in my humble opinion, they will remain sceptical around what continually protesting against Chansiri is actually going to achieve.