ChineseYellowLorry

Oh it’s Poirot again, trying to suggest I’m a pig Are you on crack ?

Well this is interesting. ‘A section of our fan base who will never accept him” because of his skin colour. interesting that you make this serious claim without providing any evidence. You don’t say who, you don’t say when you saw or heard this, you don’t say how large or small this ‘section of our fanbase ‘ is. In fact, you don’t specify anything supporting this pretty awful claim, that anyone could call measurable and able to stand up to any kind of scrutiny. You just make a sweeping, serious and deeply unpleasant claim about your own teams fanbase. Im in my 40s and we’ve had black players from when I I was literally started going to games (Cunningham) and largely ever since, so four decades basically. And I can’t once recall an issue from our fans towards black players. Yet today in 2023 you suggest we have a racism problem, because we have a manager who is black? Do you not think this new found prejudice would appear a bit odd in view of the above? If I administered this site I would ask ask you to share evidence of what you claim to be true, otherwise apologise and retract it. Will you be doing that? After all, such a serious thing in this day and age, should be pretty easy to exemplify would it not?

I can’t stand them, at all. I was relieved to see them lose in the same way I would be when the pigs or Leeds lose a key match. And I despise this ‘gallant losers’ shite they churn out these days as though supporting your team but experiencing hope & failure is unique to them. But much as I hate them it would be hard to call them fickle and ‘not that good a fanbase’. They’ve sold out most matches, home & away for the last 30 years. Have we? And being on the lash at the game isn’t especially unique to them either, and isn’t that a fairly routine part of football fan culture?

Watched the game on iFollow as overseas at the minute. Can’t really find it in me to join in with ‘Yeah, happy with the point ‘ sentiment. We dropped two points in a key match through some bad decision making & carelessness. You have to give credit Ipswich, they’ve been top 3 all season & have some quality in their side, but at 2-0 then as already mentioned, the touch of a rapist from Smith. He should have finished that and in turn finished the match. We’re a title chasing team, so need to start thinking like one as fans. This could count later in the season. Another point on Smiths touch, while his header was superb, from a beauty of a cross, he played some awful passes including a hospital ball to Bannan who was rightly furious after. The old cliche of goals changing games applied today, their first came at a decent time for them & they carried on where they left off. After that we saw that they are also a good side and they went for it. Although the commentary on radio Sheff (largely awful btw) was suggesting we were a ‘boxer on the ropes’ where’s I thought we just absorbed their pressure. We still could’ve nicked it when flint grazed the bar. A decent point, would’ve taken it before the match but we need to be more ruthless. I hope the lack of January business doesn’t bite later, the squad looks a bit thin,

Harsh. Nobody’s saving that, superb finish & like lightening

Colin at Leeds? If it’s true and he took them down he’d go up in my estimation

Just lazy journalism, adding 2&2 and getting 25. Leeds have already ruled out approaching Corberan apparently. They’re screwed anyhow. You’d expect one from Everton or Leeds to go down (possibly both but unlikely) and I can see Dyche doing enough to keep Everton up.

Had it not been them I’d say he had a very good point. I detest the BBC and welcome anyone shoving it to the woke ‘luvvies’ there. The way they lavish over the top sentiment towards who they favour is nauseating. I think think was literally no pre match focus on United at all. Literally none! It was all about Ryan Reynolds and the footballing giants that are er…Wrexham and the ‘special atmosphere’ of the town and their miniature 3 sided international stadium. Ryan whoops & high 5s as he’s taking them ‘somewhere special’. Funny yes as it’s the Pigs but had it been us, plenty would be seething!

Thanks😊 I’ll take that as a compliment

Responding to reesh’ post I think plenty would tbh. The data is in and easily reachable for this point anyway as we’re hardly the only club who have had a long exile or scratched around in the 3rd division, although I’ll grant you that (of our size) we’re probably enduring the longest exile now Forest are back in the top flight. But as fans were pretty self congratulatory about loyal examples of our support (your point being one) but we have a large percent who have a pretty long list of reasons not to go - often when it counts (it’s in TV, we’re not playing well enough for my liking, the entertainment isnt to my liking, cost, low estimation of the opposition, low faith in getting a result etc etc. How often do you hear” I don’t give a f**k who were playing, I’m going to watch Wednesday as that’s my team. End of story” Even on this site one fan goes into detail about how the slightly enhanced Plymouth ticket cost, our biggest match since last May, sharing the minutiae of his budget including pints etc etc. Quite how he’ll get on when we get back to the PL is anybody’s guess.

If we do advance soon, and reestablish ourselves as a top flight club, I don’t think we have any choice than to move. And before anyone jumps to baseless conclusions about SWFC rushing directly to build some ‘uninviting, soulless bowl’ 12 miles from Sheffield near an M1 junction, I’m sure given the size of Sheffield and the number of brownfield sites across the inner core of the city we could successfully acquire one big enough to build a new stadium. As we know this is years away (if ever) and contingent on Wednesday getting to and staying in the Premier League for a sustained period of time. As well as overcoming a large proportion of our fanbase who would have no (initial) interest in leaving Hillsborough. But in the meantime, there must be something else we can do to get the home fans a better outcome. We could start by regularly filling the seats that are available! Re Chansiri, I think once we’re back in the PL a change of ownership wouldn’t be too long in the waiting.

Responding to Hoylands post, Maybe, perhaps…probably. And I’ve already made the point about other grounds. In fact none of the latter point is remotely new, the last 39 years has seen top flight grounds host matches with 49, 50 60 k gates, separating fans with a line of stewards. The question will be how we want to respond as a club when we do get back to the top flight (and the negative PR amps up X1000) or do we get smart and think broadly about how the ground is proportioned. Where I do have some sympathy with the ‘relevant authorities’ is that outside access to and around the stadium is pretty awful. Its footprint is literally hemmed in by a river, a dual carriageway and an entire street of terraced houses. By all means look to the past and how we used to stand on piss covered terraces without any problem, but it won’t get us too far

I’f we go back even further, the lower tier was for home fans in the league cup games Liverpool, 40 years ago. The lower Lepp was ‘shared’ a few times in the 90s though I’ve never personally been in it. The 3-2 v Man United in 91 had both sets of fans in the lower tier. Some early 90s matches it was all home fans (3-3 v Norwich comes to mind) . Wasn’t even the 3-1 v Pigs a mixed lower tier?I may be wrong & I can’t imagine any match nowadays where this would be permitted. As I’ve mentioned we will have to start thinking about other solutions that may - to some - be unpopular, to try and get this stand to have better utility, should we get back to the PL. The fact that it’s long been regarded as an ‘away end’ for decades I believe exacerbates the existing issues. Taking segregation out of the equation might make it less of a problem/target.

I can’t say I ‘care’ about them either, but that’s beside the point here. The grounds are comparable to ours one way or another because they are either traditional like ours and/or the surrounding area is built up like ours. Unfortunately we are bedevilled by both of those scenarios at S6. You may have something resembling a point about segregation from an in game perspective or before and after. But if we look at the south stand as a whole(as an alternative place to house away fans) we could alleviate some of that almost completely, if we isolated the grandstand for away fans, which, has a capacity of 3K I think, and had its own dedicated turnstiles and internal concourses and could be entered and exited exclusively using the bridge. Again at other clubs away fans and home fans mingle outside the stadiums every time they play, they only become segregated once they get into the ground!. The issues that arose from the Newcastle match which were clearly something and nothing (and mostly nothing) serve as a clue as to what is coming as and when we we finally get back to the premier League. Bigger gates, bigger away followings, more high-profile matches & with it will come more ‘woke’ Premier League focused journalists, fully committed to virtue signalling at any given opportunity. Our Leppings Lane end presenting them with a piss easy target. If we’re getting this kind of high touch pressure right now god knows what it will be like then. Wednesday fans may not like being moved from their respective seats but we may have to look at adaptability & alternatives to try and solve the issues around this particular stand, or at least while it is still there.

Apparently not at S6 but perfectly routine pretty much everywhere else, look at Leeds, Villa, Everton. Liverpool, Chelsea off the top of my head, all house their away fans within a proportion of a stand with home fans either side of them. All get bigger gates than us