Jake

I don’t an account. No idea.

Thanks, I don’t know a Nev.

Can anyone explain “Nevs”? Presumably it’s derogatory, though I hold hope it’s not.

Passive aggressiveness is so page 35 of this thread.

The grass isn’t always greener.

🤞🏻

“We’ll agree to disagree”

It was me that actually doubted the legitimacy of an X poll. I was simply trying to state the available ways of attempting to gauge people’s views. Flip the question, what makes you think that it’s a minority who want DC out? Impossible question to accurately answer. I’m not the type to think it isn’t ok to have a differing opinion, quite the opposite. One of the first times I aired my views publicly I constantly objected to fans being called fickle in regard to protest, I don’t believe criticising fellow fans is necessary or productive. We do all want the same thing. I’m glad this debate has remained civil, I’ve benefitted from it in that I may not be quite as militant as I maybe have been in the past. This is genuinely the only format where I have heard the counter argument, without the ridiculousness of X. I don’t agree that Chansiri is the right man for the club but have conceded I may not have been correct in some areas. Going to try and refrain tonight as I’m off out on the source and late night Jake, is a bit more Reesh, than Hirsty’s 12th pint 😊

In fairness I did clearly state X polls aren’t much of a demographic. The people voting don’t have to follow you however. Every tweet with the Wednesday hashtag is seen by supporters of all opinions. Would you not suggest United fans are more likely to vote for Chansiri to remain, given the accusations on here are that people who want Chansiri out are quote, “crayon munchers/window lickers”. That was my attempt at humour on a serious debate. I quite openly stated it’s near on impossible to gauge/confirm support. It is however, unquestionable that there is a very large number of dissatisfied Wednesdayites who believe a change in ownership is required. I don’t think any amount of shouting down will work from either side, hence why I ventured into the lions den for a discussion.

So the current plan is to let it rot and see what happens? That plan was ok in the early stages but it’s catching us up.

Now you’re just being silly, I’m talking preventative maintenance and general upkeep.

1) My apologies if I’m wrong on that, I haven’t seen that publicised anywhere. My bad. 2) Me or Chansiri? 3) The facilities have now had a further 9 years of neglect, scoreboard and pitch aside and desperately need a long term maintenance and improvement plan. He would have known this when he bought the club. You don’t buy a house, live in it for 9 years, then blame the previous owner if the roof caves in. You can’t reactively address these things as it undoubtedly costs millions more than it would if he is to stick around. The only paint brush I’ve seen during Chansiri’s reign is in the hands of Luke Horton (I do like his work).

I agree that the management team is doing an excellent job. It’s my view that we now have 9 cup finals to have any chance of keeping them in place. Their contact situation should be addressed as a priority. I agree that Gassama and Musaba look like they could develop into really good players. We need to either see benefit from this long term on the field, or generate handsome fees, time will tell. The amount of money owed to DC, whilst frightening is better than bank loans. However, are his finances and cash flow an issue? He seemingly admitted they are, if they aren’t, why destabilise the club like he did? Clarity needed. What are your thoughts on the amount of stadium rent we’re currently paying? Are we going to address the aging facilities and infrastructure which is inevitably going to cost millions down the road? We’re a relegation away from derailing any very recent positives, though I’d add one, the chairman is at least seemingly not blowing things up himself of late. I fear he’s always likely to do that which is worrying. Whilst the losses are improved, is it sustainable in line with his current personal financial position? I’m really not sure we have a well run club.

Like others have, you’ve highlighted just one point I’ve made, in order to discredit it, then moved the conversation to a whole different question for me to answer, ignoring every other point, aside from the one highlighted. I’m speaking personally giving my opinion, against a handful of strong willed accounts. We were talking about the number of people I believe take the group seriously, I gave a reasoned answer and the response to what said in it’s entirety was that the below is a sweeping statement; “the majority I speak to (this site aside) don’t approve of Chansiri’s running of the club” It isn’t a sweeping statement it’s my personal experience. I’ve no need to lie about that, I fully accept there are people out there that don’t feel the same as me. The rest of your post is a valid question which is asked on repeat by people who don’t approve of the group. It can be shortened to what’s next? The fact of the matter is nobody ever truly knows that when there’s a change of ownership at a club. It could be a worse (I’d argue not much) but it could be a whole lot better. Pretty much every change ever made in anything, carries a risk. Sell to who? How does anyone expect that question answered, I didn’t know of Chansiri’s existence before he bought the club. The club itself has confirmed there have been interested parties, the stumbling block seemingly is the over exaggerated value placed on the club by DC. The first step and the aim of the group is for Chansiri to put the club up for sale to potential new buyers at a reasonable sale value. We’ve gone over our reasoning for wanting him to leave. People will naturally pick at some of those reasons and try to discredit them but we feel, on the whole, that his running of the club is sadly lacking in competence and any sort of vision for the future. The reason for protest is that we feel he won’t move on whilst-ever there is no pressure. We’ve tried communication as have others and little changes. That’s it simplified. As a by product of protesting for sale, we hope he at very least realises supporters concerns should not be ignored and that he personally needs to change tact. My counter to the what next question has always been, what if we stay as we are? Nobody ever answers that one either because it’s equally as difficult as what’s next. What does the future look like under Chansiri?

I suppose you’d have to ask the people suggesting that, it can’t be proven 100% either way without a supporter ballot, which is never going to happen. In my personal experience, the majority I speak to (this site aside), don’t approve of Chansiri’s running of the club. That’s going to be different for some individuals though I’d guess. That doesn’t necessarily mean they support the 1867 group either way, I appreciate that is a different question.